SMBX2 PAL Release - Feedback, Questions and Bugs here!

[Hoeloe]

Can someone please explain what bowser does?

All I've been able to notice is when he kills something it follows him, and pops up in his item box. Is that all they do? Just follow him around?

If you hit the Drop Item button, you can change their order. If you hit Tanooki, you can "send out" the first enemy in the list as a friendly ally.

[Zzblast]

Thank you! ^^

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So- In Multiplayer, can only player 1 be the new characters? And player 2 is stuck with the original five? I'm just wondering if I'm dumb, and there is a way for player 2 to be the new characters as well.

[Hoeloe]

Thank you! ^^

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So- In Multiplayer, can only player 1 be the new characters? And player 2 is stuck with the original five? I'm just wondering if I'm dumb, and there is a way for player 2 to be the new characters as well.

Currently, only player 1 will work properly with the new characters, and won't always behave well with the original 5 as player 2 either. The new characters don't really work well at all in 2 player mode, though that is something we want to solve in beta 5.

[Quantumenace]

Upon testing checkpoints, they don't actually reset if you die and enter another level. The code saves the level path, but never actually compares the saved path to the current level like it did in multipoints. Is that intentional?

Yep. This is intentional. They reset if you beat the level or quit the game, more like how they worked in SMW.

Wow, I never even noticed Mario World was like that. Sounds like that's something that should be noted somewhere, though, since the old checkpoints did not work that way. Is that the official agreed-on behavior for future versions or is it subject to change?

[Murphmario]

Does anyone know how to increase the amount of time a Graf can travel horizontally or vertically without increasing it's speed?

Also Grafs with blocktop=1 don't carry the player with them. You sorta just slide off.

[Emral]

Does anyone know how to increase the amount of time a Graf can travel horizontally or vertically without increasing it's speed?

Also Grafs with blocktop=1 don't carry the player with them. You sorta just slide off.

1) Grafs are defined by parabolic functions, so by adjusting the individual values in the function you can manipulate how long it travels in a certain manner and by how much the movement should be scaled.

2) blocktop is not a valid npc code. Have you tried playerblocktop?

[Murphmario]

Does anyone know how to increase the amount of time a Graf can travel horizontally or vertically without increasing it's speed?

Also Grafs with blocktop=1 don't carry the player with them. You sorta just slide off.

1) Grafs are defined by parabolic functions, so by adjusting the individual values in the function you can manipulate how long it travels in a certain manner and by how much the movement should be scaled.

2) blocktop is not a valid npc code. Have you tried playerblocktop?

1. As someone who's math skills aren't really the best, could I maybe have an example please? Googling "Parabolic func

2. That's what I meant, yeah. Modified the Graf Lua file to make a new NPC, to be more specific.

[Hoeloe]

As someone who's math skills aren't really the best, could I maybe have an example please? Googling "Parabolic func

Enjl meant "parametric" functions, not parabolic. It basically means a function that instead of being written like: y = f(x), it's written x = f(t), y = g(t).

Essentially, you want to describe how the x and y position change over time, where the variable t contains the current time value. For example, to make a graf move in a straight line, you can simply do x = t, y = 0.

And please do NOT modify Lua files in your install, that will just lead to breaking your version. If you just want to make a few tweaks, you can use npc-#.txt files (which can be used to add playerblocktop settings). If you absolutely do need to make a new NPC (which is only if you need to do actual modification to the Lua behaviour), you should make a copy of the Lua file in your level folder, adjust the IDs to be within the range 751-1000, and (unless the npc file you copied was named npc-#.lua, in which case you change the filename to your desired ID) load it yourself.

[Murphmario]

As someone who's math skills aren't really the best, could I maybe have an example please? Googling "Parabolic func

Enjl meant "parametric" functions, not parabolic. It basically means a function that instead of being written like: y = f(x), it's written x = f(t), y = g(t).

Essentially, you want to describe how the x and y position change over time, where the variable t contains the current time value. For example, to make a graf move in a straight line, you can simply do x = t, y = 0.

And please do NOT modify Lua files in your install, that will just lead to breaking your version. If you just want to make a few tweaks, you can use npc-#.txt files (which can be used to add playerblocktop settings). If you absolutely do need to make a new NPC (which is only if you need to do actual modification to the Lua behaviour), you should make a copy of the Lua file in your level folder, adjust the IDs to be within the range 751-1000, and (unless the npc file you copied was named npc-#.lua, in which case you change the filename to your desired ID) load it yourself.

I didn't modify the Lua file in my install. I copied the file, which is probably a waste of space considering I could have just done that all this time. Oops.

Anyways, thank for the help. One more question though: Is there anyway to modify how far a Graf moves without changing the speed value?

[Emral]

As someone who's math skills aren't really the best, could I maybe have an example please? Googling "Parabolic func

Enjl meant "parametric" functions, not parabolic. It basically means a function that instead of being written like: y = f(x), it's written x = f(t), y = g(t).

Essentially, you want to describe how the x and y position change over time, where the variable t contains the current time value. For example, to make a graf move in a straight line, you can simply do x = t, y = 0.

And please do NOT modify Lua files in your install, that will just lead to breaking your version. If you just want to make a few tweaks, you can use npc-#.txt files (which can be used to add playerblocktop settings). If you absolutely do need to make a new NPC (which is only if you need to do actual modification to the Lua behaviour), you should make a copy of the Lua file in your level folder, adjust the IDs to be within the range 751-1000, and (unless the npc file you copied was named npc-#.lua, in which case you change the filename to your desired ID) load it yourself.

I didn't modify the Lua file in my install. I copied the file, which is probably a waste of space considering I could have just done that all this time. Oops.

Anyways, thank for the help. One more question though: Is there anyway to modify how far a Graf moves without changing the speed value?

Take the example hoeloe wrote:
x = t, y = 0
t is a variable for the time since the graf spawned.
So to double a graf's speed:
x = t * 2, y = 0
Experiment with these functions yourself:
https://www.gcalcd.com/calculator/graphing/parametric/

[Murphmario]

Enjl meant "parametric" functions, not parabolic. It basically means a function that instead of being written like: y = f(x), it's written x = f(t), y = g(t).

Essentially, you want to describe how the x and y position change over time, where the variable t contains the current time value. For example, to make a graf move in a straight line, you can simply do x = t, y = 0.

And please do NOT modify Lua files in your install, that will just lead to breaking your version. If you just want to make a few tweaks, you can use npc-#.txt files (which can be used to add playerblocktop settings). If you absolutely do need to make a new NPC (which is only if you need to do actual modification to the Lua behaviour), you should make a copy of the Lua file in your level folder, adjust the IDs to be within the range 751-1000, and (unless the npc file you copied was named npc-#.lua, in which case you change the filename to your desired ID) load it yourself.

I didn't modify the Lua file in my install. I copied the file, which is probably a waste of space considering I could have just done that all this time. Oops.

Anyways, thank for the help. One more question though: Is there anyway to modify how far a Graf moves without changing the speed value?

Take the example hoeloe wrote:
x = t, y = 0
t is a variable for the time since the graf spawned.
So to double a graf's speed:
x = t * 2, y = 0
Experiment with these functions yourself:
https://www.gcalcd.com/calculator/graphing/parametric/

I didn't modify the Lua file in my install. I copied the file, which is probably a waste of space considering I could have just done that all this time. Oops.
Anyways, thank for the help. One more question though: Is there anyway to modify how far a Graf moves without changing the speed value?

Also the site is interesting, but I'm not sure how much it would help seeing as how it probably has features that Grafs don't have.

[Emral]

I thought by speed value you meant the npc config value for speed.

Also you can figure out when the site has something grafs don't have whenever your attempts at importing it fail. That said, grafs have access to the lua math library so your needs should be covered... https://www.tutorialspoint.com/lua/lua_ ... ibrary.htm

[Gabriel09213535]

my gif2png opens but then closes alone, what do I need to do to make it work?

[Emral]

my gif2png opens but then closes alone, what do I need to do to make it work?

[Murphmario]

Alright. Managed to slow down the speed of the Graf. The only problem now is that anything that lands on top of a Blocktop Graf ends up not having their X-Position changed alongside the Graf like most other platforms, and as a result, they fall off.

Edit: Attach to layer doesn't work either. The attached platforms simply doesn't move with the NPC.

[Flo2912]

Seems, that when I set the main area of the level to one way scrolling and the enter a sub-area and go back to the main-area, wood platform (SMB 3 style) on tracks later in the level just disappear.

quite a strange bug...

[Penguin998]

Try installing the vcredist found in your SMBX folder,
64x for if you have a 64x computer, 86x for 32x. If not, install Microsoft's Visual C++ Redistributable 2017 to fix it.

tried both but putting the vcredist 2017 into the folder did nothing

Did you try double clicking vcredist 2017 to install it? Putting it into the folder isn't going to help anyway since it's a installer.
EDIT: My bad, try vcredist 2015. It should fix the problem. Remember to install it by double-clicking it and reply once you've got MAGLX3 up.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/downloa ... x?id=52685

do i put it in the folder after i install it by double clicking?

[Westretroman]

tried both but putting the vcredist 2017 into the folder did nothing

Did you try double clicking vcredist 2017 to install it? Putting it into the folder isn't going to help anyway since it's a installer.
EDIT: My bad, try vcredist 2015. It should fix the problem. Remember to install it by double-clicking it and reply once you've got MAGLX3 up.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/downloa ... x?id=52685

do i put it in the folder after i install it by double clicking?

No, you just install it.

[Quantumenace]

Alright. Managed to slow down the speed of the Graf. The only problem now is that anything that lands on top of a Blocktop Graf ends up not having their X-Position changed alongside the Graf like most other platforms, and as a result, they fall off.

Edit: Attach to layer doesn't work either. The attached platforms simply doesn't move with the NPC.

Try adding this to the npc txt file:

setpos=0

That's a special option that actually uses NPC speed instead of setting its x and y directly. I don't know why it isn't the default, there might be some drawback.

[Murphmario]

Alright. Managed to slow down the speed of the Graf. The only problem now is that anything that lands on top of a Blocktop Graf ends up not having their X-Position changed alongside the Graf like most other platforms, and as a result, they fall off.

Edit: Attach to layer doesn't work either. The attached platforms simply doesn't move with the NPC.

Try adding this to the npc txt file:

setpos=0

That's a special option that actually uses NPC speed instead of setting its x and y directly. I don't know why it isn't the default, there might be some drawback.

That worked, thanks!