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Postby MECHDRAGON777 » Mon May 04, 2015 1:06 am
http://mobile.walmart.com/ip/37550562
A new computer would have pros and cons...
- 2 Terabytes of disk space
- 16Gigabytes of Ram
- I have zeroed out my disk space multiple times on my current pc
- I could get on the forums
- I could work on my projects more

- It costs $669,00
- I have leas then $0
- I will lose Skype and SMBX, as well as Bandicam
- If I get a recording software, I could record more videos for SMBX and other games

So what do you all think I should do 
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Postby XerX » Mon May 04, 2015 1:22 am
MECHDRAGON777 wrote:http://mobile.walmart.com/ip/37550562
A new computer would have pros and cons...
- 2 Terabytes of disk space
- 16Gigabytes of Ram
- I have zeroed out my disk space multiple times on my current pc
- I could get on the forums
- I could work on my projects more

- It costs $669,00
- I have leas then $0
I think you're biggest problem is that you have $0. How do you plan on actually upgrading?
MECHDRAGON777 wrote:
[*]I will lose Skype and SMBX, as well as Bandicam
[*]If I get a recording software, I could record more videos for SMBX and other games  [/color][/list]
These...can be redownloaded quite easily, so really, they can't be a downside. Also get a USB/external hdd to transfer your work.
Also your Walmart sells gaming computers? Holy shit.
Also if you do get the money for that, it's a pretty great deal if you ask me. Even comes with gaming keyboard and mouse, and a free game.
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Postby Vinyl Scratch » Mon May 04, 2015 1:40 am
I wouldn't trust Walmart of all places to get a new computer 
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Postby MECHDRAGON777 » Mon May 04, 2015 1:51 am
Vinyl Scratch wrote:I wouldn't trust Walmart of all places to get a new computer 
A: the more of your posts I see, the more I wish joey would let me post with that color!
B: Why not trust it?
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Postby bossedit8 » Mon May 04, 2015 2:01 am
Well, if you could easily get your Money up and done you will easily get that PC in one go but by actually earning it that's another Story. You can easily restore at least most of the stuff you had before like SMBX, Skype and also Bandicam but of course that takes time.
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Postby XerX » Mon May 04, 2015 2:02 am
Truth be told, Vinyl is right actually. Walmart is just bad.
If you want a new computer, go to a place that specializes in technology, or order one off the internet, OR order parts and build one yourself.
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Postby MECHDRAGON777 » Mon May 04, 2015 2:19 am
bossedit8 wrote:Well, if you could easily get your Money up and done you will easily get that PC in one go but by actually earning it that's another Story. You can easily restore at least most of the stuff you had before like SMBX, Skype and also Bandicam but of course that takes time.
That is what I answered on Skype!
I will not publicly reveal, but yeah。
XerX wrote:Truth be told, Vinyl is right actually. Walmart is just bad.
If you want a new computer, go to a place that specializes in technology, or order one off the internet, OR order parts and build one yourself.
I still want to know why though?
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Postby aero » Mon May 04, 2015 2:43 am
http://www.logicalincrements.com/
You really don't need 2TB of disk space, and 16GB of RAM. That's overkill, if you're just doing casual gaming and recording. Check the link and pick out what you need. 1TB and 8GB is decent still, but you could probably do good still with lower specs as long as you're good with upkeep. Also, why do you need a whole new computer if you're just running put of disk space, and want more RAM? Just do a tune-up and replace your RAM and get an external drive for the extra space.
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Postby MECHDRAGON777 » Mon May 04, 2015 3:08 am
AeroMatter wrote:http://www.logicalincrements.com/
You really don't need 2TB of disk space, and 16GB of RAM. That's overkill, if you're just doing casual gaming and recording. Check the link and pick out what you need. 1TB and 8GB is decent still, but you could probably do good still with lower specs as long as you're good with upkeep. Also, why do you need a whole new computer if you're just running put of disk space, and want more RAM? Just do a tune-up and replace your RAM and get an external drive for the extra space.
I am terrible at trying to clean a computer... I also plan on getting a capture card, so that would also help to have a way better PC! My current one is bad in more then that I listed! I Can not do anything on it other then Skype, Bandicam, Youtube/Upload, and SMBX! I can not get on any other sites! I also seem to use up 100% of my computer cpu ussage with just SMBX and Skype takes up 40%!
(Bossedit8 apparently only has 10% from SMBX and Skype combined) and as such, I can not record a lot of thing or I get tremendous slow down! It will also help when recording HD games!
Those specks went straight over my head though since I do not understand most abbreviations! Thank you for tribg to help though!
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Postby bossedit8 » Mon May 04, 2015 5:16 am
If others suggested to get your PC from another Website then that's also a good deal to get, as @AeroMatter suggested. To be honest, my PC has also already pre-builded up by the creators (ASUS) and it came out very well at the end even for nearly 2 years of use and it still runs at a very good Speed. That PC cost around ~600€.
Remember, if you buy a new PC, you Need to Transfer all the necessary files from the old PC into your new PC but be careful since that you don't have a AntiVirus into your old PC installed (you seriously NEED one! Especially on your new PC!), you have no Informations if your old files has been affected by viruses or any malwares on it but since everything functions as it should be on your old PC (accessing any Folders, Datas, Games, etc.) that shouldn't be a Problem.
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Postby Vinyl Scratch » Mon May 04, 2015 6:29 am
MECHDRAGON777 wrote:Vinyl Scratch wrote:I wouldn't trust Walmart of all places to get a new computer 
A: the more of your posts I see, the more I wish joey would let me post with that color!
B: Why not trust it?
A. I've been posting in this color for literally 4 years since I've joined this community, I'd rather not let anybody take this from me
B. If you go and see Walmart and how they treat their computers.. Yeah, no, it's baaaad.. It seems like they don't even care about them as they get all dusty and looks like nobody has even touched them for literal years
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Postby MECHDRAGON777 » Mon May 04, 2015 8:03 am
Vinyl Scratch wrote:MECHDRAGON777 wrote:Vinyl Scratch wrote:I wouldn't trust Walmart of all places to get a new computer 
A: the more of your posts I see, the more I wish joey would let me post with that color!
B: Why not trust it?
A. I've been posting in this color for literally 4 years since I've joined this community, I'd rather not let anybody take this from me
B. If you go and see Walmart and how they treat their computers.. Yeah, no, it's baaaad.. It seems like they don't even care about them as they get all dusty and looks like nobody has even touched them for literal years
A: I feel like that you are the only one allowed...
B: The ones still in the box are still clean...
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Postby MECHDRAGON777 » Tue May 05, 2015 12:48 am
SnifitGuy wrote:If you want ideas on how to build gaming computers, check out Austin Evans on youtube. He shows you how to build a $400 gaming pc that can play most games on medium at 1080p...
I plan on using it for more then just gaming though... I just fell like this i a good deal, so would It be better then this? I just do not think 2 Terabytes is enough storage space... I maxed out a 0.5 Terabyte disk four times in one month (including me erasing every thing!
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Postby XerX » Tue May 05, 2015 1:20 am
MECHDRAGON777 wrote:SnifitGuy wrote:If you want ideas on how to build gaming computers, check out Austin Evans on youtube. He shows you how to build a $400 gaming pc that can play most games on medium at 1080p...
I plan on using it for more then just gaming though... I just fell like this i a good deal, so would It be better then this? I just do not think 2 Terabytes is enough storage space... I maxed out a 0.5 Terabyte disk four times in one month (including me erasing every thing!
2TB is way more than enough. You just need to learn how to conserve harddisk space. My laptop has 1TB and I still have 300GB left, even after having installed 46 Steam games, drawing a ton of art(all saved as PSD's), downloaded a bunch of other stuff, like Music. I clean out my downloads folder regularly, and clean out my computer cache with CCleaner, because that takes up quite a bit too. (Last clean up was 60GB).
EDIT: If you just need more storage, just go buy an external harddrive. Their not expensive.
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Postby Superiorstar » Tue May 05, 2015 1:36 am
Holy Cow I was kidding when I said you didn't know what an SD card or a blue tooth but I didn't know you actually don't. WTF Mech how do you not know what a blue tooth is?
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Postby dragonfan96 » Tue May 05, 2015 1:38 am
I agree with Vinyl, Walmart isnt the best Place for a Computer Purchase, Granite its has a Massive RAM and Storage,
Your best bet at getting a good laptop/Computer at Staples/Office Depot
Btw, if u do get a new computer which if its bad to where it is frustrating to use I'd save up and get a new one imo
[quote}I will lose Skype and SMBX, as well as Bandicam [/quote]
all 3 are re-download-able and Skype i think is on most if not all Laptops
for Bandicam it depends what plan u bought, if its a One-PC plan, u can transfer ur bandi-License to the new Laptop/Computer.
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Postby MECHDRAGON777 » Tue May 05, 2015 2:14 am
Superiorstar wrote:Holy Cow I was kidding when I said you didn't know what an SD card or a blue tooth but I didn't know you actually don't. WTF Mech how do you not know what a blue tooth is?
You said neither of those things in your message... I HAVE A 3DS, So I know what an SD card is, and my dad and me have issues wig blue tooth, so no...
The reason I thinking about this is the fact I can no longer use internet, all programs lag while I have something else running, user's folder has 438/578 GB full, and I am not allowed t delete anything from there! (According to faimly) the disk space is not the only reason I want this, I am just adding I go through a lot of disk space wig SMBX alone, and I try to take care of it!
(My computer is also at least a decade or more old!)
dragonfan96 wrote:I agree with Vinyl, Walmart isnt the best Place for a Computer Purchase, Granite its has a Massive RAM and Storage,
Your best bet at getting a good laptop/Computer at Staples/Office Depot
Btw, if u do get a new computer which if its bad to where it is frustrating to use I'd save up and get a new one imo
I will lose Skype and SMBX, as well as Bandicam
all 3 are re-download-able and Skype i think is on most if not all Laptops
for Bandicam it depends what plan u bought, if its a One-PC plan, u can transfer ur bandi-License to the new Laptop/Computer.
I never bought Bandicam, It was a gift from a certain German friend! I will have to ask bossedit8 to resend SMBX to me since there is no download link to my knowledge! Skype did not come on cone on any computer I have seen though! I thank you for the advice though! I SHOULD BE ABLE TO AGFORD IT IN June i you are wonderingthougj!
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Postby Danny » Tue May 05, 2015 2:44 am
I went on Newegg about two weeks ago and picked out all of the parts that I'm going to use to build my PC that I'm planning on. Picked them out myself all based on what I want the computer to be capable of, which is pretty hardcore gaming. It costs about $1k, which for a computer in this generation, isn't a bad price at all, especially for what I picked out.
Comparing that to your WALMART computer you're looking at, it's a lot cheaper probably because it's made from cheaper components. Plus, 2TB HDDs aren't as efficient as anything smaller. Less space = longer lifespan and efficiency. The most you should ever need for any gaming or light recording is 1TB. If you do heavy amounts of streaming, 1TB should also go over just fine, but you might want an external storage drive. If on your current PC you're having storage issues, either try deleting some things (raw video files recorded with Bandicam take up a hell of a lot of space), or uninstall some useless programs. Also run your computer over with a few virus/malware scans, run CCleaner, Disk Defrag. Think about moving some things over to various cloud storage like Dropbox or Google Drive. That will free up some space and will most definitely increase your PC's speed.
As for RAM, the most you should ever need for any casual activities is 8GB, if you're going to be going into more gaming or even more streaming/recording, 16GB is also okay, but not necessary. Anything over 16GB is over the top. More RAM doesn't make your computer go faster, the thing that will make your computer go faster is your processor, the RAM is only a small fraction.
Never heard of the AMD CPU, but I don't really follow AMD anyway, so after a quick search it apparently has some pretty okay reviews, though it's not too optimal. I would suggest an Intel i5 CPU, but that's only because I'm a sucker for Intel, mostly because I've had better luck with them than AMD.
As for GPU, it doesn't really tell you, does it? So that's really, really iffy. It might not be too good, but if you're using it for just SMBX and browsing the forums, then you shouldn't need a spectacular graphics card.
Another thing that really gets me is that it's a CyberPower PC, and I've had nothing but bad luck with CyberPower. The current PC I have is a CyberPower one from 2011 and the graphics card on it is so dated (GTX 220) that it's not even funny. It has capable RAM power and an okay Intel i3 processor (still dated but whatever), but one issue I had is that the PSU was overcharged and the cord melted inside the unit, causing a small fire, so I had to entirely replace the PSU, and it was suggested that I get more wattage because it sounded like the power unit was being overcharged. My 512GB HDD was completely wiped and died after the PSU was replaced, so I had to get a cheaper, smaller alternative which is only a few 200GB. Now my problem is that the GTX 220 is overheating every time I play a game, causing my computer to completely shut itself down.
So, nothing but bad luck from CyberPower, I suggest you read some of the reviews on the PC as well.
DissedinNC wrote:
1 OUT OF 5 STARS
I received what I thought was a new computer but turned out to be a refurbished computer. There was no paper work other than the invoice. After hooking the computer up it asked for a user name and password (not included) and I was unable to log on. I then tried to reload the Windows 8.1 and having no license or key number was unable to reinstall. All together it was a awful experience. Finally after calling the tech support and getting none I returned the computer. The people at Walmart were very nice and even after finding the numbers on the box and the computer did not match (at all) they gave me a refund. My advice : Stay away from these people and buy a known name computer.
Ranbo55 wrote:
3 OUT OF 5 STARS
I received this about three weeks ago. Pros: Speed is fine. Good amount of memory. Looks cool! Easy to access components. room for additional drives. Cons: Noisy. A mere 350W Power Supply. Unrealistically low. Due to low Power Supply, adding drives is not suggested. Only two slots for memory. Keyboard space bar stopped working the first day. I wouldn't recommend this to someone who is unfamiliar with working on computers. But then I really wouldn't recommend it anyone else either.
So, while it is pretty cheap, cheap computers usually run cheaply and are cheaply made. Cheap = not good. PCs aren't very cheap if you want a good one, and if you lack the computer engineering knowledge on how to pick out parts and construct a PC yourself, here are some PCs I could suggest to you.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6834314807
Pretty nice laptop, I have a friend that owns one, isn't really used for intense gaming but it does what it does and it's good at it. I recommend it if you just want to get things done and want a laptop. If you don't really want a laptop, then you'll have to pay a little extra for a desktop.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6883156683
I know, shoot me, it's a Dell, but from my experiences of using it (as of posting this post I'm using this PC as we speak), it's really nice and can run a crap ton of games breaking 60 FPS on some when they're set to medium settings. It's also a desktop which is pretty nice. I can run GTA V on medium settings while hitting 30-50 FPS. You might be able to find a couple of other nice looking PCs on Newegg, I strongly suggest shooting for a big brand like Dell, ASUS, Acer, or HP if you're going to get a pre-built computer. I would also recommend Lenovo but I've been kind of iffy on their pre-built PCs. Steer away from CyberPower as much as you can, make sure you read reviews first and find what you want. If you're really looking at committing to buying a new PC, it's going to cost you a pretty penny, so be prepared for anything and don't go cheap. If you find a PC that's around $400-500, chances are it's not too great, usually good PCs are priced anywhere from $700 to $1,000.
Seriously though, don't get anything from Walmart that is an electronic unless you're willing to bet a lot of money that it will work and you're willing to deal with tech support if it doesn't. Try checking out Newegg, or even Staples. Or if you want to really play it safe, just go directly to the Dell website and figure things out. As much as Dell isn't preferred throughout many gaming/computer enthusiasts, I find that it's a pretty great brand to take a dip in if you don't know jack about computers. If you have any other questions just feel free to ask, I might be the one to respond with my opinions, or someone else might. Only real problem with picking a computer is that it usually branches off of opinions.
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Postby MECHDRAGON777 » Tue May 05, 2015 9:11 am
8bitmushroom wrote:I went on Newegg about two weeks ago and picked out all of the parts that I'm going to use to build my PC that I'm planning on. Picked them out myself all based on what I want the computer to be capable of, which is pretty hardcore gaming. It costs about $1k, which for a computer in this generation, isn't a bad price at all, especially for what I picked out.

Comparing that to your WALMART computer you're looking at, it's a lot cheaper probably because it's made from cheaper components. Plus, 2TB HDDs aren't as efficient as anything smaller. Less space = longer lifespan and efficiency. The most you should ever need for any gaming or light recording is 1TB. If you do heavy amounts of streaming, 1TB should also go over just fine, but you might want an external storage drive. If on your current PC you're having storage issues, either try deleting some things (raw video files recorded with Bandicam take up a hell of a lot of space), or uninstall some useless programs. Also run your computer over with a few virus/malware scans, run CCleaner, Disk Defrag. Think about moving some things over to various cloud storage like Dropbox or Google Drive. That will free up some space and will most definitely increase your PC's speed.
As for RAM, the most you should ever need for any casual activities is 8GB, if you're going to be going into more gaming or even more streaming/recording, 16GB is also okay, but not necessary. Anything over 16GB is over the top. More RAM doesn't make your computer go faster, the thing that will make your computer go faster is your processor, the RAM is only a small fraction.
Never heard of the AMD CPU, but I don't really follow AMD anyway, so after a quick search it apparently has some pretty okay reviews, though it's not too optimal. I would suggest an Intel i5 CPU, but that's only because I'm a sucker for Intel, mostly because I've had better luck with them than AMD.
As for GPU, it doesn't really tell you, does it? So that's really, really iffy. It might not be too good, but if you're using it for just SMBX and browsing the forums, then you shouldn't need a spectacular graphics card.
Another thing that really gets me is that it's a CyberPower PC, and I've had nothing but bad luck with CyberPower. The current PC I have is a CyberPower one from 2011 and the graphics card on it is so dated (GTX 220) that it's not even funny. It has capable RAM power and an okay Intel i3 processor (still dated but whatever), but one issue I had is that the PSU was overcharged and the cord melted inside the unit, causing a small fire, so I had to entirely replace the PSU, and it was suggested that I get more wattage because it sounded like the power unit was being overcharged. My 512GB HDD was completely wiped and died after the PSU was replaced, so I had to get a cheaper, smaller alternative which is only a few 200GB. Now my problem is that the GTX 220 is overheating every time I play a game, causing my computer to completely shut itself down.
So, nothing but bad luck from CyberPower, I suggest you read some of the reviews on the PC as well.
DissedinNC wrote:
1 OUT OF 5 STARS
I received what I thought was a new computer but turned out to be a refurbished computer. There was no paper work other than the invoice. After hooking the computer up it asked for a user name and password (not included) and I was unable to log on. I then tried to reload the Windows 8.1 and having no license or key number was unable to reinstall. All together it was a awful experience. Finally after calling the tech support and getting none I returned the computer. The people at Walmart were very nice and even after finding the numbers on the box and the computer did not match (at all) they gave me a refund. My advice : Stay away from these people and buy a known name computer.
Ranbo55 wrote:
3 OUT OF 5 STARS
I received this about three weeks ago. Pros: Speed is fine. Good amount of memory. Looks cool! Easy to access components. room for additional drives. Cons: Noisy. A mere 350W Power Supply. Unrealistically low. Due to low Power Supply, adding drives is not suggested. Only two slots for memory. Keyboard space bar stopped working the first day. I wouldn't recommend this to someone who is unfamiliar with working on computers. But then I really wouldn't recommend it anyone else either.
So, while it is pretty cheap, cheap computers usually run cheaply and are cheaply made. Cheap = not good. PCs aren't very cheap if you want a good one, and if you lack the computer engineering knowledge on how to pick out parts and construct a PC yourself, here are some PCs I could suggest to you.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6834314807
Pretty nice laptop, I have a friend that owns one, isn't really used for intense gaming but it does what it does and it's good at it. I recommend it if you just want to get things done and want a laptop. If you don't really want a laptop, then you'll have to pay a little extra for a desktop.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6883156683
I know, shoot me, it's a Dell, but from my experiences of using it (as of posting this post I'm using this PC as we speak), it's really nice and can run a crap ton of games breaking 60 FPS on some when they're set to medium settings. It's also a desktop which is pretty nice. I can run GTA V on medium settings while hitting 30-50 FPS. You might be able to find a couple of other nice looking PCs on Newegg, I strongly suggest shooting for a big brand like Dell, ASUS, Acer, or HP if you're going to get a pre-built computer. I would also recommend Lenovo but I've been kind of iffy on their pre-built PCs. Steer away from CyberPower as much as you can, make sure you read reviews first and find what you want. If you're really looking at committing to buying a new PC, it's going to cost you a pretty penny, so be prepared for anything and don't go cheap. If you find a PC that's around $400-500, chances are it's not too great, usually good PCs are priced anywhere from $700 to $1,000.
Seriously though, don't get anything from Walmart that is an electronic unless you're willing to bet a lot of money that it will work and you're willing to deal with tech support if it doesn't. Try checking out Newegg, or even Staples. Or if you want to really play it safe, just go directly to the Dell website and figure things out. As much as Dell isn't preferred throughout many gaming/computer enthusiasts, I find that it's a pretty great brand to take a dip in if you don't know jack about computers. If you have any other questions just feel free to ask, I might be the one to respond with my opinions, or someone else might. Only real problem with picking a computer is that it usually branches off of opinions.
The sad thing is I know little about computers! I was told to trust Dell all my life though! I k ow I want at least a terabyte and 16 RandomAcessMemory!
Thankyou!
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Postby JupiHornet » Tue May 05, 2015 9:46 am
MECHDRAGON777 wrote:Vinyl Scratch wrote:I wouldn't trust Walmart of all places to get a new computer 
A: the more of your posts I see, the more I wish joey would let me post with that color!
B: Why not trust it?
A. Um why?
B. Go to an official computer store, like Best Buy or something
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