Please don't yell at me...

BobPickle · Postby **BobPickle** » Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:00 pm

I was just wondering... why hasn't anyone continued the development of the level editor?

RzFx · Postby **RzFx** » Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:04 pm

Because no one have the source code.

RudeGuy · Postby **RudeGuy** » Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:09 pm

Redigit, the creator of SMBX, stopped working on it a long time ago and he never posted the source code, and there isn't any way to get it.

silent_ · Postby **silent_** » Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:11 pm

However, just to point out, Wohlstand is currently making an alternate editor to SMBX, and you can check it out here: http://www.smbxgame.com/forums/v ... =69&t=1147

Radishl · Postby **Radishl** » Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:12 pm

Can't anyone ask him for the source-code?

RudeGuy · Postby **RudeGuy** » Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:13 pm

Radishl wrote:Can't anyone ask him for the source-code?

Redigit doesn't care anymore about SMBX.

BobPickle · Postby **BobPickle** » Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:14 pm

I'm not sure if this is possible here, but I've heard of people making small changes stuff without having the source code

BobPickle · Postby **BobPickle** » Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:16 pm

RudeGuy07 wrote:
Radishl wrote:Can't anyone ask him for the source-code?
Redigit doesn't care anymore about SMBX.

But still... is it so hard to just give us the source code?

Kevsoft · Postby **Kevsoft** » Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:18 pm

BobPickle wrote:I'm not sure if this is possible here, but I've heard of people making small changes stuff without having the source code

That's called hacking. Basically changing the compiled code and it is not easy. LunaDll does hack in the SMBX exe.

Ignoritus · Postby **Ignoritus** » Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:18 pm

BobPickle wrote:
RudeGuy07 wrote:
Radishl wrote:Can't anyone ask him for the source-code?
Redigit doesn't care anymore about SMBX.
But still... is it so hard to just give us the source code?

The game was cancelled due to a cease and desist order from Nintendo. For him to distribute the source code and encourage someone else to continue would likely violate that order.

Radishl · Postby **Radishl** » Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:20 pm

Ignoritus wrote:
The game was cancelled due to a cease and desist order from Nintendo. For him to distribute the source code and encourage someone else to continue would likely violate that order.

has anyone attempted to ask him to see for themselves?

Ignoritus · Postby **Ignoritus** » Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:21 pm

Radishl wrote:
Ignoritus wrote:
The game was cancelled due to a cease and desist order from Nintendo. For him to distribute the source code and encourage someone else to continue would likely violate that order.
has anyone attempted to ask him to see for themselves?

I've requested the source from him in the past and the answer has been no.

BobPickle · Postby **BobPickle** » Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:45 pm

Ignoritus wrote: The game was cancelled due to a cease and desist order from Nintendo. For him to distribute the source code and encourage someone else to continue would likely violate that order.

But couldn't he... like... do it in secret?
Oh wait I forgot he doesn't care...

Ignoritus · Postby **Ignoritus** » Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:49 pm

BobPickle wrote:
Ignoritus wrote: The game was cancelled due to a cease and desist order from Nintendo. For him to distribute the source code and encourage someone else to continue would likely violate that order.
But couldn't he... like... do it in secret?
Oh wait I forgot he doesn't care...

So you're implying he should risk being sued by a corporate giant like Nintendo over a mario fangame? Even if he did care it would be foolish of him to do that.

Wohlstand · Postby **Wohlstand** » Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:51 pm

BobPickle wrote:
Ignoritus wrote: The game was cancelled due to a cease and desist order from Nintendo. For him to distribute the source code and encourage someone else to continue would likely violate that order.
But couldn't he... like... do it in secret?
Oh wait I forgot he doesn't care...

He canceled development in 2011'th year and never shown source code of SMBX. I think, he was used gotten skills with them it the Terraria.
Now only me and Kevsoft working with recreating of SMBX's engine from scratch to take able continue progress of SMBX life. We are codding new project one year and work in process: we have full featured editor and working with engine part which now in early state yet and available only for random tests. Anyway you can join to us:
We codding in C++ with using of Qt library. Original SMBX wa written in Visual Basic, but most of researched documents are experimentally grabbed from game or hacked via IDA by each byte.

EDIT: Anyway, the copyrighted by Nintendo is MEDIA CONTENT: music, sounds, graphics; AND REGISTERED TRADE MARK "Super Mario Bros.". but ENGINE with editor and gameplay - is his own work, and Nintendo haven't rights to ENGINE.

FanofSMBX · Postby **FanofSMBX** » Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:55 pm

Yeah, why can't he just give it with the sprites as placeholders?

BobPickle · Postby **BobPickle** » Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:58 pm

FanofSMBX wrote:Yeah, why can't he just give it with the sprites as placeholders?

He doesn't care enough to put any effort into it...

FanofSMBX · Postby **FanofSMBX** » Sun Jan 04, 2015 7:01 pm

BobPickle wrote:
FanofSMBX wrote:Yeah, why can't he just give it with the sprites as placeholders?
He doesn't care enough to put any effort into it...

How much effort could it take to upload it and tell someone to change the Mario sprites?

Wohlstand · Postby **Wohlstand** » Sun Jan 04, 2015 7:04 pm

FanofSMBX wrote:
BobPickle wrote:
FanofSMBX wrote:Yeah, why can't he just give it with the sprites as placeholders?
He doesn't care enough to put any effort into it...
How much effort could it take to upload it and tell someone to change the Mario sprites?

He would put WITHOUT Mario Sprites and we (by luckily) know each picture and can repair them with non-Mario and with SMBX's original !

12Me21 · Postby **12Me21** » Sun Jan 04, 2015 7:07 pm

Well... Nintendo might still have a problem, since they're evil.

If we can't get the source code, we could still try hacking it to allow saving while testing a level. I'm not 100% sure, but I think that the only thing stopping you from saving while testing is some code preventing you from doing it (like it's not impossible because of the way levels are saved, or anything big like that)
So all we would have to do is remove some code (hopefully)