Over the past few days there have been riots and protests in Ferguson Missouri due to the death of Mike Brown whom the FBI are investigating if his civil rights have been violated. Similar to the chaos of the L.A riots in 1992, there's been: looting, graffiti, clashes, and destruction of property and businesses.
I, personally, think everyone is at fault here. Just because someone is executed by the police, even wrongfully, it doesn't give you permission to destroy the city and damage property owned by people who have absolutely nothing to do with the incident nor even the people who WERE involved since you just become as bad as they are and thus indefensible. What makes things worse, in my opinion, is that there's a chance that Mike Brown's death is being exploited by the rioters to justify themselves and what they are doing which is arguably worse than what happened to Mike.
It's just so frustrating to see that what's happening now is going to be watered down to either a "discussion" on race, the police state, or guns when this same exact scene has already been played over and over again in American History as a lack in sense of community and the general attitude of people doing as they please if they believe they won't get caught. The people of Ferguson are destroying their businesses, and their city and calling it retaliation for the racism against Mike Brown yet I would wager my life that if you asked anyone looting a store some wouldn't even know about Mike and others wouldn't have considered non-violence, or even more nobly, if Mike would appreciate what they are doing in response to his death.
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It really annoys me how hypocritical we, America in general, are when we all claim we're not racist, because it's clear we all secretly are in some way. It's unruly how many times on the news I'll see some significant person of a race standing up. It's like "oh this person is Hispanic and he's doing something great!"
I literally saw on the news this morning on the national news "this baseball team is all blacks," and that really annoyed me. Sure they're motive is to look down on their neighborhood violence, but why is it such a significant aspect that the entire baseball team consists of black kids? Racism in my book still includes judging someone by race, whether it's meant in a positive or negative way. I'm truly waiting for when "equality" will actually start remotely applying in America's society.
TNTtimelord wrote:It really annoys me how hypocritical we, America in general, are when we all claim we're not racist, because it's clear we all secretly are in some way. It's unruly how many times on the news I'll see some significant person of a race standing up. It's like "oh this person is Hispanic and he's doing something great!"
I literally saw on the news this morning on the national news "this baseball team is all blacks," and that really annoyed me. Sure they're motive is to look down on their neighborhood violence, but why is it such a significant aspect that the entire baseball team consists of black kids? Racism in my book still includes judging someone by race, whether it's meant in a positive or negative way. I'm truly waiting for when "equality" will actually start remotely applying in America's society.
Agreed. This point is essential to anyone who believes in true egalitarianism, and wants to prevent more riots like these. The same exact thing is happening as in L.A. all the way down to the talking points heard on the news being whose rights were violated, the police using excessive force, and race. I'm not one to believe in repeating the same mistakes over and over again hoping for change. I believe true equality will come when what your post describes leaves, since difference in race is still focused on regardless of a positive or negative light on it.
While I question the potency of peaceful protests for what they're actually trying to do, I wouldn't say that everyone is at fault. Plenty of innocent people were involved in those protests and didn't deserve to be shot at.
I can't be sure of why Mike Brown was killed but if there was anything provocative in his demeanour I can only imagine it was out of a desire to preserve his own life. Would I kill a cop? No. Would I fight a cop that's trying to kill me for no perceivable reason? I'd probably bloody well try.
Funny. I was just looking at said L.A. Riots yesterday.
I've noticed this country's peace is starting to get really frail. This unlawful execution is in conjunction with things like police using excessive force in general and economy being shot and the justice system falling to sloth and corruption. It's the perfect formula for anarchy, and if our country has to use the heavy duty cleaners to restore order, then it means there's a problem.
I'll have to look into this days later to see how it's going. Right now, it's protests being protests, or riots, I'm not the one shooting tear gas at them I don't have much of a reason to care at the moment.
Oh, and we've been being racist ironically for a while now. (Not implying that we all are, but the cover page of media has been.) We kind of made the bed to sleep in whenever things like this happens and suddenly racism is not funny anymore.
Yeah I never do buy those "innocent law-abiding citizen" stories. I mean sure, the police are wholly to blame for this affair, but it's not 100% their fault. Never is.
Also I read up more about this. (And then fasted.) Man, the riots calmed down crazy fast once we had someone willing to connect to the protestors. Amazing how one new captain in charge of handling police there can do that to a mob.
Uncle Sciz: dude
Uncle Sciz: i don't think
Uncle Sciz: i will be playing tonight
Nien: why
Uncle Sciz: i'm watching the greatest chimpout since the la riots
Uncle Sciz: they set a walgreens on fire
Uncle Sciz: and just looted a liquor store
Nien: lmao
Uncle Sciz: spoiler: black people are involved
Uncle Sciz: this all started because a white cop shot a black guy
Nien: thats racist
I'm not very informed on this subject, but i feel like making a riot about /one/ person who has already been declared guilty is really...cant find a word so i'll just say explosive
Wtf... the officer was innocent?
The kid was shot so many times when it only takes one shot kill.him. that is what is just so racist to me. Now switch it to a black cop shooting a white man, the black cop goes to jail. Now white on white or black on black, no care so what the hell.
It just shows how racial America is. One reason not to consider myself that. Still after like 50 years America is so f*** racial. The country needs to change.
Jacob9300Shadow wrote:Wtf... the officer was innocent?
The kid was shot so many times when it only takes one shot kill.him. that is what is just so racist to me. Now switch it to a black cop shooting a white man, the black cop goes to jail. Now white on white or black on black, no care so what the hell.
It just shows how racial America is. One reason not to consider myself that. Still after like 50 years America is so f*** racial. The country needs to change.
ur sprouting nonsense
they didn't declare him innocent because "oh he's white that mean he's purified", it's because of how court works.
Nien wrote:Uncle Sciz: dude
Uncle Sciz: i don't think
Uncle Sciz: i will be playing tonight
Nien: why
Uncle Sciz: i'm watching the greatest chimpout since the la riots
Uncle Sciz: they set a walgreens on fire
Uncle Sciz: and just looted a liquor store
Nien: lmao
Uncle Sciz: spoiler: black people are involved
Uncle Sciz: this all started because a white cop shot a black guy
Nien: thats racist
I'm not very informed on this subject, but i feel like making a riot about /one/ person who has already been declared guilty is really...cant find a word so i'll just say explosive
This chimpout - or Black Monday as I've been calling it - has been expected but I'm still disappointed in what has become of this country. What baffles me is how this has all been justified just by calling cops racist nazis, and removing all responsibility from the people who are raping and pillaging their communities.
You know I'm "profoundly disappointed" in practically everything last night except for the verdict. Just look at the leadership we have during a crisis:
Jacob9300Shadow wrote:Wtf... the officer was innocent?
The kid was shot so many times when it only takes one shot kill.him. that is what is just so racist to me. Now switch it to a black cop shooting a white man, the black cop goes to jail. Now white on white or black on black, no care so what the hell.
It just shows how racial America is. One reason not to consider myself that. Still after like 50 years America is so f*** racial. The country needs to change.
One shot doesn't always kill, and he was shot more than once because when firing you shoot to kill. Also that black cop white man thing is in your head, so just save it since it doesn't rest on any part of reality. America is racial though, you just have it mixed up with who is and isn't racist.
It annoys me when people think that the cop killed him just because people think the guy was racist. What if an black cop shot a white man in the same scenario? What would peoples' viewpoints be then? This isn't about color, this isn't about racism.
Also, just so you guys know, the guy robbed a convenience store earlier before this happened.
So if I got that right police are attacking peaceful protesters here... what about that? :/
People were shouting "We are peaceful" in front of fires too. Since the video starts conveniently after the police warning, I'll have to assume their reason was unlawful assembly since: the crowd is on the street, they were defiant of orders, and all of this was in a residential area. I wouldn't have used an LRAD while people are trying to sleep, but the police reserve the right to disperse unlawful assemblies.
I was originally on the Officer's side, since he had said he had shot the kid in defense. But then that recording came out that showed the kid was unarmed, so I was on the People's side. Now the riots have started and both sides are using brute force to try and solve this problem and that doesn't help things, it only makes it worse.
This could have been easily dealt with and it has turned into a wildfire that got the President involved. Yes, the white officer shot the black kid, that can be questioned as a racial attack, but it's not real need to get up and destroy everything just because you're angry with the police force.
8bitmushroom wrote:I was originally on the Officer's side, since he had said he had shot the kid in defense. But then that recording came out that showed the kid was unarmed, so I was on the People's side. Now the riots have started and both sides are using brute force to try and solve this problem and that doesn't help things, it only makes it worse.
This could have been easily dealt with and it has turned into a wildfire that got the President involved. Yes, the white officer shot the black kid, that can be questioned as a racial attack, but it's not real need to get up and destroy everything just because you're angry with the police force.
The thing is, Wilson showed no probable cause for even involuntary manslaughter nor a hate crime, and this is what the Grand Jury concluded leading to all this. It's also irrelevant whether the kid is unarmed or not, because he assaulted Wilson and each autopsy showed that the bullets entered through the front of his body, meaning he the kid intended to charge Wilson. Also, police are required to shoot-to-kill and NOT shoot-to-wound so the story is going to end in tragedy no matter what.
What are you guys' thoughts on this masterpost detailing evidence against Darren Wilson and talking about police brutality within the protests themselves?
[sub]I reblogged it because the blog theme of the other person was annoying - I haven't read it all myself. I also made the link colour bright red so you can see clearly.[/sub] http://intellectual-panda.tumblr.com/pr ... cf71rtal1n
GhostHawk wrote:
You know I'm "profoundly disappointed" in practically everything last night except for the verdict.
Would that include everybody's handling of this very, very sensitive matter? Because shit he could've been innocent and we could've had plenty of people who were sorry, understood what happened, knew what they were doing, would connect to the people, etcetera.
None of that is happening. We're as stupid as we were August19921860 August. Thanks American pride. Thanks.
