FCC Ends Net Neutrality... But the fight's not over.

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FCC Ends Net Neutrality... But the fight's not over.

Postby Ryuji231 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:09 pm

Read the info here: https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/fede ... 40509.html

This is a follow up to TheHelmetGuy1's post: viewtopic.php?f=50&t=20007


I do think we need to talk about this but here's the footnotes that we need to get in the air right now.


The fight to keep Net Neutrality is not over.

Just because the FCC voted 3-1 to repeal it [at Donald Trump's request mind you]. This is the current look from both the U.S House Of Repersentives as well as the United States Senate on it
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With that said. Still tweet, e-mail, post on facebook, shoot a video on youtube, or call your congressman or congresswoman or senator and tell them why we should not get rid of Net Neutrality. Simple sites like www.battleforthenet.com are good places to get all the tools and resources to help fight cause remember. Those who are for repealing it. 2018 is a huge election year called the Midterms. If they want yours or if your under 18 your parents votes next year... They will listen to you.


And with that said. Discuss among yourselves.

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Re: FCC Ends Net Neutrality... But the fight's not over.

Postby CynicHost » Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:25 pm

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Re: FCC Ends Net Neutrality... But the fight's not over.

Postby ElectriKong » Thu Dec 21, 2017 2:30 pm


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Re: FCC Ends Net Neutrality... But the fight's not over.

Postby DJFMHD » Thu Dec 21, 2017 3:33 pm

It won't be gone for long it's coming back soon. 5 years Max.

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Re: FCC Ends Net Neutrality... But the fight's not over.

Postby Thehelmetguy1 » Thu Dec 21, 2017 4:58 pm

^
Considering everything it is fairly possible for NN to come back

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Re: FCC Ends Net Neutrality... But the fight's not over.

Postby Ryuji231 » Thu Dec 21, 2017 6:17 pm

It's gotta no go through the house and/or senate. The lawsuits being followed in it plus the super backlash that has the potential of becoming violent, could force it to happen alot sooner than later

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Re: FCC Ends Net Neutrality... But the fight's not over.

Postby Quantumenace » Thu Dec 21, 2017 6:51 pm

Violence? Seriously? Over something that telecom companies """might""" do even though it's likely illegal already according to antitrust laws?

Why is this boiled down to a binary choice between "put over 1,000 regulations on the internet based on the Title II section of an 80-year old telephone system law" and "we're doomed"? This only means that the Federal Trade Commission handles the internet just like it did two years ago. If you're that panicked, why not get Congress to do its job and write an actual law for the Federal Trade Commission to enforce that explicitly prevents throttling or censorship or whatever?

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Re: FCC Ends Net Neutrality... But the fight's not over.

Postby FireyPaperMario » Thu Dec 21, 2017 7:02 pm

DJFMHD wrote:It won't be gone for long it's coming back soon. 5 years Max.
I hope you're right. :|

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Re: FCC Ends Net Neutrality... But the fight's not over.

Postby Ryuji231 » Thu Dec 21, 2017 7:18 pm

Quantumenace wrote:Violence? Seriously? Over something that telecom companies """might""" do even though it's likely illegal already according to antitrust laws?

Why is this boiled down to a binary choice between "put over 1,000 regulations on the internet based on the Title II section of an 80-year old telephone system law" and "we're doomed"? This only means that the Federal Trade Commission handles the internet just like it did two years ago. If you're that panicked, why not get Congress to do its job and write an actual law for the Federal Trade Commission to enforce that explicitly prevents throttling or censorship or whatever?
Way things have been now in days since Janaury. You never know what's gonna happen next it seems in America.

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Re: FCC Ends Net Neutrality... But the fight's not over.

Postby aero » Thu Dec 21, 2017 7:42 pm

If the owners of ISPs had as much hate and threats directed at them as was directed at Ajit Pai maybe things would change. The FCC chair is not an elected position, and there's 0 correlation between popular support and laws being passed. Don't call congress. Call the ISP owners.
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Re: FCC Ends Net Neutrality... But the fight's not over.

Postby Hor0bix » Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:07 am

I havent seen a change to my internet, it just feels the same :/

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Re: FCC Ends Net Neutrality... But the fight's not over.

Postby aero » Tue Jan 09, 2018 2:38 pm

It's sort of like net neutrality was just two different groups of companies competing over who makes more money off of people rather than anything to do with internet freedom or access.

The current trend is to stop the Stop Enabling Sex Traffickers Act:
https://stopsesta.org/
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/08/i ... innovation

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Re: FCC Ends Net Neutrality... But the fight's not over.

Postby Taycamgame » Tue Jan 09, 2018 3:00 pm

So, what exactly does this whole thing about Net Neutrality actually mean?
Will it affect me drastically (i'm in the UK)?
Will this site still be up after the death of Net Neutrality?

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Re: FCC Ends Net Neutrality... But the fight's not over.

Postby aero » Tue Jan 09, 2018 3:08 pm

Taycamgame wrote:So, what exactly does this whole thing about Net Neutrality actually mean?
Treating all data the same and not prioritizing certain traffic.
Taycamgame wrote:Will it affect me drastically (i'm in the UK)?
No.
Taycamgame wrote:Will this site still be up after the death of Net Neutrality?
Yes.

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Re: FCC Ends Net Neutrality... But the fight's not over.

Postby ElectriKong » Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:25 pm

Only one more Republican needs to vote to allow a law that reverses the vote to pass to the house.

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Re: FCC Ends Net Neutrality... But the fight's not over.

Postby Taycamgame » Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:23 pm

Electriking wrote:Only one more Republican needs to vote to allow a law that reverses the vote to pass to the house.
And if that happens, does that mean Net Neutrality will be saved?
I don't quite understand why we need 50 democrats and 2 republicans to allow this law though.

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Re: FCC Ends Net Neutrality... But the fight's not over.

Postby Thehelmetguy1 » Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:56 pm

Because politics is 100% fair

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Re: FCC Ends Net Neutrality... But the fight's not over.

Postby Quantumenace » Wed Jan 17, 2018 3:31 pm

Why do you assume the only option is to have the FCC regulate the internet?

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Re: FCC Ends Net Neutrality... But the fight's not over.

Postby ElectriKong » Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:38 pm


Some good news coming up as I bump this thread

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Re: FCC Ends Net Neutrality... But the fight's not over.

Postby ElectriKong » Sun Apr 22, 2018 12:55 pm

Bump because this is important.
Tomorrow, parts of the FCC's repeal of Net Neutrality will go into effect. Don't expect changes to your internet though, because ISPs will wait until you stop paying attention, so don't stop paying attention if you want to keep fighting. Click this for more info.

You should try to keep fighting because you may look back in 10 years and you would be able to say that you tried, because if you are American and Net Neutrality is not saved, then in 10 years the internet will look very different. And these differences will also be visible to the rest of the world, which will be indirectly affected, be it through the loss of American sites whose businesses could not survive due to higher prices and payed priortization etc, higher prices for American sites because the businesses passed the costs for using the internet set by their ISPs to their consumers or even other countries doing the same. Businesses outside of America may also be affected their American audiences (which makes up a significant part of the Majority of English sites' audiences) declining due to blocking and slowing doen by American ISPs. So Americans need to put pressure on Politicians and ISPs and Non-Americans should put pressure on Americans to do that. And just because your internet is functioning fine tomorrow (if you are in America) does not mean that it will functioning fine in 5 years. ISPs will only be making changes when you become more complacent, so not doing that may at least postpone those changes.
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