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MacheTheFerret · Postby **MacheTheFerret** » Sat Dec 27, 2014 8:16 pm

8bitmushroom wrote:In my opinion, the problem with the game is that there are way too many different roles that if a certain one is lost on the town's side (or lack thereof), it can make the game end quickly in the Mafia's (or lack thereof) favor. The game will also go way too quickly as there will be a bunch of role abilities done on night one.

So, if there are no Townies, then every night there's a chance that the Town can get fucked over by having just one of their members killed. The reason for the Townies is that if one is lost, it quite honestly doesn't impact the Town as much as having the Doctor killed off, so all this really is is a game of pure luck and absolutely zero strategy, because as soon as that Doctor or Vigilante gets killed off on the Town's side, the game can just flip right over.

Again, the game is only getting so many votes because of a simple joke that parodies this forum as a whole. Don't get me wrong, I'll participate in it, but I don't expect it to be as good as any of the other games I see that were brought up here.

This is why I changed from voting for my own game to voting for Zeldamaster's. Hey, if we get two more votes on his game, he might win.

underFlo · Postby **underFlo** » Sat Dec 27, 2014 8:22 pm

But that wouldn't be too different in a "normal" Mafia round where if the cop or doc dies the town is also fucked. It's not like all rolls on the town or Mafia side are equally strong anyways, like in a "normal" round. Sorry, I can't see your problem. In a normal game it's less likely that the town gets hurt, but if it does, it hurts bad. Here it's more likely, but hurts less since there are other roles to trust on. Besides, all the special roles will make it easier to find out information and make a core town.

Choco · Postby **Choco** » Sat Dec 27, 2014 9:24 pm

Thought about it, and changed my vote to ZeldaMaster12's game. I don't really understand Navi's ability but it seems like a pretty cool game.

underFlo · Postby **underFlo** » Sat Dec 27, 2014 9:25 pm

This really reminds me of a bandwagon in a Mafia game lol. I don't really see the problem with my game, but I'd also be fine with zeldamaster's.
Looms like I prepared all the for nothing, whoops.

Postby **Julia Pseudo** » Sat Dec 27, 2014 9:33 pm

Choco wrote:Thought about it, and changed my vote to ZeldaMaster12's game. I don't really understand Navi's ability but it seems like a pretty cool game.

In regards to Navi's power, I believe it informs Navi of the username of a random player who has not yet PMed the host with their power usage that night.

underFlo · Postby **underFlo** » Sat Dec 27, 2014 9:42 pm

Just asking, did we ever have such a close call in votings? I feel like most the other times one game really got the majority of votes compared to the others. I feel like we could let both win, but instead of parallel, one round will be held first (for example determined by random.org), and then the others.

Postby **Julia Pseudo** » Sat Dec 27, 2014 10:20 pm

Yeah, it's never been this close before. We'll give the poll a bit more time, though.

Zeldamaster12 · Postby **Zeldamaster12** » Sat Dec 27, 2014 10:38 pm

o: I'm winning?

TLtimelord · Postby **TLtimelord** » Sat Dec 27, 2014 11:40 pm

Choco wrote:Thought about it, and changed my vote to ZeldaMaster12's game. I don't really understand Navi's ability but it seems like a pretty cool game.

The Navi role basically acts like the Penguin.

Zeldamaster12 · Postby **Zeldamaster12** » Sun Dec 28, 2014 1:37 am

Yes, Navi is basically the Penguin.

HeroOfRhyme · Postby **HeroOfRhyme** » Sun Dec 28, 2014 6:00 am

Zeldamaster12 wrote:o: I'm winning?

Yes

underFlo · Postby **underFlo** » Sun Dec 28, 2014 6:14 am

Can anyone explain why everyone is voting fir zeldamaster's game? I mean, I'm not saying it's bad, it's just that I made so many preparations since at the beginning I got positive feedback and for the first part the poll really was in my favor, causing to make so many preparations for the game, you don't even know. And now, everyone is jumping to zeldamaster's game and all my preparation was for nothing. I have no problem with his game winning, but I do have a proble with me having made these prepparations from the start. I mean, you should see how much I did for this game, wanted it to be special. If you could've just all voted for zeldamaster's game from the start and didn't get my hopes up, I wouldn't have had to make all these prepqrations. You might call it overconfidence, but at one point my game had 8 votes and zeldamaster's 4, and then everyone just felt like jumping over to zeldamaster's.

And no one has even giving a reason against my game other then "I actually have to put effort and thought into playing this game because there are so many roles" and "a power role dieing is really bad for the town", and first off, if it really is such a big balancing error as 8bit makes it out to be, then why did both Game Masters approve it (FallingSnow's complaints were all about the presentation and not the balance and Pseude also said it's ok as long as I can handle all the powers, and I already told why I will be able to handle this), and wouldn't the town be even more fucked if a power role did in a "normal" game? Here whe have more power roles, meaning a roll's loss can be handled better, only exception would be the Doc, but the odds of him dying are the same as in a "Normal" game with the same amount of players. Besides, using all the power roles, roles like the Doc can get used more effectively since these roles make a good base for town groups.

And mfw people like Mystogan act like my game is "evil" and zeldamaster's has to win

HeroOfRhyme · Postby **HeroOfRhyme** » Sun Dec 28, 2014 6:18 am

I never said your game was evil, nor acted it. I just don't think it's that good, for already said reasons.

underFlo · Postby **underFlo** » Sun Dec 28, 2014 6:21 am

Mystogan wrote:I never said your game was evil, nor acted it. I just don't think it's that good, for already said reasons.

I haven't seen any good reasons brought up yet. Did you even read my post? I already said there why these reasons aren't really good.

HeroOfRhyme · Postby **HeroOfRhyme** » Sun Dec 28, 2014 6:29 am

no it was too long so i didnt read it. Also I believe those reasons are good enough. Why shouldnt they be?

underFlo · Postby **underFlo** » Sun Dec 28, 2014 6:45 am

Mystogan wrote:no it was too long so i didnt read it. Also I believe those reasons are good enough. Why shouldnt they be?

Oh

OH

So now you're like tl; dr and are already like "yeah that's good enough" without even having read my post? Like, are there any reasins against my game other then the ones I debunked in the secind part of my poar that's too long for you to read?

Gee, so you expect me to believe your reasons but are too lazy to look at mine? Way to be close-minded.

HeroOfRhyme · Postby **HeroOfRhyme** » Sun Dec 28, 2014 6:47 am

Sorry, I just came to play mafia, not complain that i'm losing the poll.

underFlo · Postby **underFlo** » Sun Dec 28, 2014 6:58 am

Mystogan wrote:Sorry, I just came to play mafia, not complain that i'm itsosing the poll.

Way to be ignorant. I ask you for reasoning, you totally evade the question. Like, tell me your reasoning against my game that I didn't already debunk in my post.

Besides, if you read my post you'd know that I have no problem with losing in itself.

MacheTheFerret · Postby **MacheTheFerret** » Sun Dec 28, 2014 9:26 am

Oh my fucking god, does EVERYTHING have to be the basis of an argument around here? IT'S A FUCKING GAME! IF YOU DON'T LIKE THAT [user] IS HOSTING, OR THAT [user]'s GAME IS WINNING, DON'T PLAY OR DEAL WITH IT!

Sorry. Just had to get that out there.

underFlo · Postby **underFlo** » Sun Dec 28, 2014 10:02 am

PaperPlayerX wrote:Oh my fucking god, does EVERYTHING have to be the basis of an argument around here? IT'S A FUCKING GAME! IF YOU DON'T LIKE THAT [user] IS HOSTING, OR THAT [user]'s GAME IS WINNING, DON'T PLAY OR DEAL WITH IT!

Sorry. Just had to get that out there.

Still, I would like to know Mystogan's problen with my game since he still hasn't reacted to my query of telling me and avoided the question at best ("tl; dr").
I kinda like these arguments, feels kinda like a Mafia round before the Mafia round. Or maybe it's just because I'm playing Layton vs. Phoenix Wright atm lol.

Also I think you should calm down.