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Mivixion wrote:Hate to break it to you, but honestly, death Millers are nothing. Look at the SMBX forums Mafia as an example.

fak u r u implying my game was broken

Re: Hyperme: They're really not. While they may trip up a newbie player, half the time they are nightkilled anyway, and that sort of proves that they were a miller.
Re: Nickname: Not at all. In fact, the opposite. Look how many death millers that had, and town pulled an easy victory.

Clearly you people need to play a Closed Setup game. Death Millers ain't so fun when you lose because you though there was one less Mafia than you thought!

(Anyhow it's not I'm the only person who thinks Death Millers are bad. The MafiaScum people find it bad, and if anyone knows about Mafia, it's those guys.)

Hyperme wrote:Clearly you people need to play a Closed Setup game. Death Millers ain't so fun when you lose because you though there was one less Mafia than you thought!

(Anyhow it's not I'm the only person who thinks Death Millers are bad. The MafiaScum people find it bad, and if anyone knows about Mafia, it's those guys.)

huh
this is smbx
where everyones a professional mafia player
or something

Hyperme wrote:Clearly you people need to play a Closed Setup game. Death Millers ain't so fun when you lose because you though there was one less Mafia than you thought!

(Anyhow it's not I'm the only person who thinks Death Millers are bad. The MafiaScum people find it bad, and if anyone knows about Mafia, it's those guys.)

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1. Death millers are fine in mystery games. That's sort of the point of a closed setup.
2. Implying people at MafiaScum are good at the game. While the wiki is nice (and the admins are definitely good at it), they treat newbies horribly. I've seen idiots over there lynch a bulletproof cop because he didn't explain why he knew someone was scum. Turns out, the scum had everyone else thinking he was severely bussing the others.
3. If you treat every game like there's a death miller, you would understand it way better. MafiaScum also plays way differently than we do here, in terms of game mechanics.

If you're apparently some Mafia Nazi, how about you actually play with us and stop acting like a wise guy, huh?

Mivixion wrote: Hahaha
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1. Death millers are fine in mystery games. That's sort of the point of a closed setup.
2. Implying people at MafiaScum are good at the game. While the wiki is nice (and the admins are definitely good at it), they treat newbies horribly. I've seen idiots over there lynch a bulletproof cop because he didn't explain why he knew someone was scum. Turns out, the scum had everyone else thinking he was severely bussing the others.
3. If you treat every game like there's a death miller, you would understand it way better. MafiaScum also plays way differently than we do here, in terms of game mechanics.

If you're apparently some Mafia Nazi, how about you actually play with us and stop acting like a wise guy, huh?

i can't play until the hosting cycle here reaches the game stage. seriously.

2. wait if the cop was bulletproof why didn't he claim when he was going to be lynched? assuming this wasn't day 1 he could also clear some dudes from being mafia.

Hyperme wrote:

Mivixion wrote: Hahaha
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1. Death millers are fine in mystery games. That's sort of the point of a closed setup.
2. Implying people at MafiaScum are good at the game. While the wiki is nice (and the admins are definitely good at it), they treat newbies horribly. I've seen idiots over there lynch a bulletproof cop because he didn't explain why he knew someone was scum. Turns out, the scum had everyone else thinking he was severely bussing the others.
3. If you treat every game like there's a death miller, you would understand it way better. MafiaScum also plays way differently than we do here, in terms of game mechanics.

If you're apparently some Mafia Nazi, how about you actually play with us and stop acting like a wise guy, huh?

i can't play until the hosting cycle here reaches the game stage. seriously.

2. wait if the cop was bulletproof why didn't he claim when he was going to be lynched? assuming this wasn't day 1 he could also clear some dudes from being mafia.

Who are you even? Why are you all of a sudden telling us how to play Mafia? We've been playing Mafia for 17 games on this forum now; we don't need you to lecture us.

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No offense, but can you please stop using the Supahotfire gif constantly? It was funny the first time, but now you're just overdoing it.

The foreigner role, I hate the idea of it. A Mafioso can just claim foreigner, and if the inspector role is dead, everyone would be too scared to lynch him or her. About the Ignoritus role, it reminds me of the Jester, only revised somewhat.

don't know if the double post rule applies here o.o

PaperPlayerX wrote:I honestly want Zelda's game to win.

so you want "reskinned every other mafia game" to win, okay
i mean no offense to zm12 but IDK id rather play any other game on this list.

Ragont's game is only winning due to his popularity and the way he made his game sound retarded on purpose, which, to be honest, is a shit reason to vote for a game.

i mean not really? where are you even getting this sort of thinking from

The game is also unbalanced, and the Forginer and ignoritus roles are just cruel (the Forgiener rule is cruel to everyone playing the game, and the ingoritus role is cruel to the person who gets it).

oh man my game makes u employ thinking and actually taking the time to make an educated decision wat will we do

Zeldamaster12 wrote:The foreigner role, I hate the idea of it. A Mafioso can just claim foreigner, and if the inspector role is dead, everyone would be too scared to lynch him or her.

mafia would want to kill the foreigner, since if he gets lynched they fucking lose the game so im not sure where you got that from

Zeldamaster12 wrote: Who are you even? Why are you all of a sudden telling us how to play Mafia? We've been playing Mafia for 17 games on this forum now; we don't need you to lecture us.

i'm not telling you how to play. i said I though Death Millers were not balance, I was asked why I thought that and I responded. defending my opinion is hardly lecturing people. you can play however you damn want.

anyway Ragnot's game is different while ZM's game is just Townie. Everyone wants to night murder the Forginer to avoid the effect, so claiming it makes you look suspicious?

A lot can go wrong with the Foreigner. What if the Foreigner is lynched early, and there's no way to stop it? If the inspector is dead, then odds are, there'd be no way to prove it, and people would think that claiming Foreigner is suspicious. If the Foreigner happens to be lynched early, then the game ends, and that would be no fun at all.

Even then, couldn't the Mafia just paint the Foreigner whatever color they want, and then kill him? Then, one of the Mafiosos could claim Foreigner, and like I said, people would be too scared to lynch him off.

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ragont wrote:

PaperPlayerX wrote:I honestly want Zelda's game to win.

so you want "reskinned every other mafia game" to win, okay
i mean no offense to zm12 but IDK id rather play any other game on this list.
It actually isn't "reskinned from every other mafia game." It's a simple game with a...semi-unique (I guess) concept, which is far from your game.

Ragont's game is only winning due to his popularity and the way he made his game sound retarded on purpose, which, to be honest, is a shit reason to vote for a game.

i mean not really? where are you even getting this sort of thinking from
It's not hard to figure out that these are the reasons. Your concept for your game, which is to make the game sound as blatantly stupid (on purpose) as possible, is unoriginal and not even funny.

The game is also unbalanced, and the Forginer and ignoritus roles are just cruel (the Forgiener rule is cruel to everyone playing the game, and the ingoritus role is cruel to the person who gets it).

oh man my game makes u employ thinking and actually taking the time to make an educated decision wat will we do
It's not that. Like Zelda mentioned, anyone can claim Forgiener and be pratically immune due to his power, and the ingoritus role is just flat-out useless.

Zeldamaster12 wrote:Even then, couldn't the Mafia just paint the Foreigner whatever color they want, and then kill him? Then, one of the Mafiosos could claim Foreigner, and like I said, people would be too scared to lynch him off.

there is no painter in my game.

I swear I saw one before. Guess you nerfed it as stated by this:

Pseudo-dino wrote:You didn't even need to nerf the painter that much, balance is good now.
love your role names and stuff by the way <3

ragont wrote:

PaperPlayerX wrote:I honestly want Zelda's game to win.

so you want "reskinned every other mafia game" to win, okay
i mean no offense to zm12 but IDK id rather play any other game on this list.

Yeah, pretty much this. I mean yeah, he flipped the colors, but in itself it's just like everything else. I'm not sure if your game might be a bit too far out there, but it'd definitely be refreshing to play something else.

And PPX, please tell me how the concept of ZM's game is different gameplay-wise.

As for the forum I started Mafia with, there are a few normal games that often have some roles that are unique and every 2 months or so there's a huge game with up to 60 players where there's a lot of crazy shit going on, which is mostly closed-roles, too.

Zeldamaster12 wrote:A lot can go wrong with the Foreigner. What if the Foreigner is lynched early, and there's no way to stop it? If the inspector is dead, then odds are, there'd be no way to prove it, and people would think that claiming Foreigner is suspicious. If the Foreigner happens to be lynched early, then the game ends, and that would be no fun at all.

Even then, couldn't the Mafia just paint the Foreigner whatever color they want, and then kill him? Then, one of the Mafiosos could claim Foreigner, and like I said, people would be too scared to lynch him off.

The earliest the Foreigner can win (assuming he wins like Jester) is Day 3. This means he has to survive that long, without getting lynched or iced by the Mafia/Vig. Claiming Foreigner is also bad if the Vig is alive, since it's fairly safe to kill him the next night. The only time where claiming Foreigner would seem to help would be when the town know two mafia and have to lynch one then have the second immediately killed by the Vig. Then they need to kill the Vig or they die.

EDIT: Actually, since the Foreigner's death can't be hidden, claiming Foreigner is incredibly dangerous. By doing so, you make it so the Town won't lynch you. Except the Foreigner wants to be lynched, and will presumably act evil to encourage this. So the town, instead of lynching the actual Mafia, lynch the Foreigner and the game ends.

On the last game, Pseudo's was also a simple game, and with common roles. None of you complained about that, but now I'm getting complaints that my game is evidently like every other game.

I'm going to say it again: I don't like creating overly complex games. I like to keep it simple, but still very enjoyable for all players. There is nothing wrong with that.

I have no clue as to why simple games are bad.