M39 Host Sign-ups (Poll Phase 2!)

[TLtimelord]

Looks pretty good. Expect a lot of KitBs.

Sweet. C'mon guys vote my game we'll get the record of KitB's. Doooo it.

[Danny]

While revising your games, I would advise you to read this.

While it is not exactly a Mafia rule, it is a general guideline to follow by when creating your Mafia game, and this will further be mentioned in future host sign-up threads.

[MECHDRAGON777]

So I got one of the only four fully approved games, but question:

The Amnesiac's cardflip makes its name literally impossible to read against the white block background; I actually thought you hadn't given the third party a name at first. Please change it to something more clear, probably black.
Otherwise looks good, though. Approved.

Mainly about the cardflip. I can not find a BBC code that makes the text clear. Is there a text effect to make the name visible and clear? (Clear as in see through). Black is still a color after all.

[Witchking666]

I removed the inspection ability from the General. Im guessing i'm good now.

[ElectriKong]

I don't think the Recruiter should be able to transform townies into scared townies; the recruiting ability is already strong enough as-is, and there are already few normal townies.
In fact, I might add another normal townie or two, but it's not required.
Given the role list in this game and its other powers, the Assassin would get very little out of using other roles' abilities realistically.
The Assassin's disguising seems a bit too expensive; I wouldn't say that's worth the equivalent of 3 inspections. I would lower the price down to 10 pounds.
Otherwise looks good.

1) I removed the scare ability
2) I replaced the Psychariatrist with a townie. I feel that if no one can scare a normal townie then a scared townie should not be put through therapy either
3 + 4) I changed some of the items he can buy

Just what Pseudo said. Also, I'd darken that yellow color a bit, so it's easier on the eyes.

I have changed the color from FFBF00 to FF8000.

[Doesntpostverymuch]

Six blues (plus a blue miller) is too many, especially with a fairly weak mafia and a big town. I would remove at least one of them (probably without being replaced by a townie), bringing the total down to 5. Which blue(s) you remove is your choice.

Removed Ecoil, because they had no purpose

What Pseudo said, and on top of that, the layout and formatting of the game is very messy, I would fix it up a bit.

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Moved all names together like in everyone else's games.

[MacheTheFerret]

While revising your games, I would advise you to read this.

While it is not exactly a Mafia rule, it is a general guideline to follow by when creating your Mafia game, and this will further be mentioned in future host sign-up threads.

So in the case of my game I would basically have to change the idea of the game entirely.

If you give information to a dead player who isn't on your side, that's honestly your own fault. Even in games without reviving roles, there's literally no reason to give them information, UNLESS:

If you're in the Mafia (or blue alliance) and you give information to a dead player who could be revived later, chances are they would get that information anyway when they get revived. It'd be useless to them while they're dead because they can't act upon it, but again, when they get revived, they'll could still get that post-mortem information anyway. The only "advantage" that they get is that they get that information earlier and can still private scheme with their team, but they can still do that even without a reviving role.

I don't understand the logic. If you could explain further, please do.

[Witchking666]

While revising your games, I would advise you to read this.

While it is not exactly a Mafia rule, it is a general guideline to follow by when creating your Mafia game, and this will further be mentioned in future host sign-up threads.

So in the case of my game I would basically have to change the idea of the game entirely.

If you give information to a dead player who isn't on your side, that's honestly your own fault. Even in games without reviving roles, there's literally no reason to give them information, UNLESS:

If you're in the Mafia (or blue alliance) and you give information to a dead player who could be revived later, chances are they would get that information anyway when they get revived. It'd be useless to them while they're dead because they can't act upon it, but again, when they get revived, they'll could still get that post-mortem information anyway. The only "advantage" that they get is that they get that information earlier and can still private scheme with their team, but they can still do that even without a reviving role.

I don't understand the logic. If you could explain further, please do.

I know the feeling all too well, I was in the middle of a death based mafia game when this rule got announced. And that game contained several roles now considered banned. At first, I also thought the rule was total bullshit. (My initial reaction can be seen in the mafia discussion. But Danny spent over an hour talking sence into me until I finally understood how thoroughly broken these roles are. You cannot trust your players they won't talk about mafia after they died. And since you litterally have zero control over DM/PM's you are basically signing up for death. It really hurts saying this but please just trust the staff ok? I suggest you make a new game for M40 using different roles. Try tweaking/merging/reversing existing roles instead of creating new ones. It's much easier and the risk of making broken roles drops rapidly.

[MECHDRAGON777]

Hey guys, just for future reference, you don't have to post a reserve (there are no spots to fill really lol), and you don't have to copy over previous GM reviews, since that stuff just gets re-reviewed anyway.

The only reason I write "-Reserved-" is so I can have my game on the first page. It makes voting easier if all games are next to each other.

[MacheTheFerret]

I begrudgingly removed the revival aspect of the Timelord's ability from my game, but now I feel like he's rather under powered. The revival aspect was what made him so powerful in the first place.
There is no way in hell I'm going to submit a different game just because of this, so if anyone has suggestions of abilities the Timelord could have (instead of revival) that involves his phase-rewind mechanic, that would be real neato.

[Julia Pseudo]

Are you still planning on submitting?

[Danny]

I re-reviewed all games up until now, just waiting on further revisions/submissions to be made.

[PersonNamedUser]

I buffed the subcon a bit, but also:

As Pseudo said, but I still think the health/heart system will be too slow and result in one-sided battles. Doesn't give off a Mafia vibe.

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I still don't see how it would slow down the game at all, since the heroes still get a collaborative nightkill along with the heart mechanic.

[Danny]

As Pseudo said, but I still think the health/heart system will be too slow and result in one-sided battles. Doesn't give off a Mafia vibe.

I still don't see how it would slow down the game at all, since the heroes still get a collaborative nightkill along with the heart mechanic.

With the ability to replenish hearts, and with the Subspace Mushroom regenerating all lost hearts, lynching and nightkills are really the only way to get a confirmed kill on somebody. On top of that, it's a lot to keep track of, especially for each individual player.

[PersonNamedUser]

As Pseudo said, but I still think the health/heart system will be too slow and result in one-sided battles. Doesn't give off a Mafia vibe.

I still don't see how it would slow down the game at all, since the heroes still get a collaborative nightkill along with the heart mechanic.

With the ability to replenish hearts, and with the Subspace Mushroom regenerating all lost hearts, lynching and nightkills are really the only way to get a confirmed kill on somebody. On top of that, it's a lot to keep track of, especially for each individual player.

I could make it replenish less, like only 2 or something, also, yeah, i know it's alot to keep track of, but i could keep it typed
out on a sheet.

[Witchking666]

So far we have 8 approved games. (Submitted by ShadowStarX, Mechdragon777, PaperplayerX, King of Eternity, Witchking666, Zeldamaster12, Doesntpostverymuch, TLtimelord.)
One game that hasn't been approved yet (MosaicMario)
And a disqualified game (Supershroom).

Could you please get your shit together Mosaic, then we can get that poll going.

[TLtimelord]

Could you please get your shit together

+1 rep

[Waddle]

I'm no longer planning to submit since I'm rooting for an already approved game so like what's the point

[PersonNamedUser]

Please just re-review so we can get the ball rolling

[Julia Pseudo]

The poll is up! Remember, you can vote for as many games as you'd like. The top 3 games will be sent to runoff voting once this poll ends in 48 hours.