M9: Shadowrun - NIGHT 6

[MacheTheFerret]

There's 3 mafia out of 20 players. It's not that easy for several blues to stumble upon them. I actually forgot to mention I was visited by the penguin last night.

A fluffy penguin visits you and tells you that the mafia has not recieved any visits yet

So what you're telling me is that you forgot to mention it for, let's see, how many hours are in a day again? jkplzdontsueme
So that MUST mean that whoever was previously visited by blues the past 2 nights are NOT Mafia. If I can know what role abilities count as "visits," I might be able to calculate a rough estimate of the number of innocent players this game, then use this to narrow down my suspicions and formulate the best possible person to lynch tomorrow, and the Day phase after that.

Some problems with your statements:
1. Never said I didn't like the rules, I was only making a suggestion.
2. How are the games fast paced when the length of each phase is, oh I don't know, HOURS long? You must have a REALLY busy schedule to think that hourse worth of time is a small amount.
3. How do you try to figure out who the Mafia is without any evidence? That doesn't make a god damn bit of sense.
4. Specifically referring to the second quote, why are you so keen on starting a blame game? It was a game suggestion brah.

Some issues with your statements:
2. Fast-paced meaning there is a kill every phase (lynch and Mafia, not counting Vigilante or any third-party kills). There haven't been many lynch kills yet, which makes it slow-paced. It has nothing to do with the actual lengths of the phases, it has to do with the actual length of the game.
3. The suspicion in peoples' posts might contribute, or if somebody decides to pull out a random lynch for no reason.
4. It seems more like a complaint than a game suggestion, and nobody is playing the blame game, unless they are and you'd like to prove that to me.

2. Could've clarified that earlier, maybe this small quarrel wouldn't be a thing if you had?
3. The suspicion in people's posts MAY contribute, but it doesn't mean a whole lot. Then again, that's usually all we have. Also, since when have we NOT done a random lynch? hyperboleintendedplzdontsueme
4. I fail to understand where the complaint part applies. I'm accusing YOU of starting a blame game, and it seems that you are trying to divert attention away from yourself over a useless argument...a minor quarrel if you will.

ITS DAY KKJKJFLDKJF

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Ignoritus ded

Dagnabit. I had a long elaborate post and every time I hit submit someone posts a new post. GOD FRIGGIN DAGNABIT!
So that's another innocent person dead (but it may not be Igno persay).

Well, damn, we lost another Townie.

At this point I'm perfectly fine with a random lynch because we have no leads whatsoever and through our luck we might vote off a Mafia, but I don't think it would be worth the risk of losing another possible Townie.

Anybody got any suggestions?

WILL PEOPLE STOP TALKING SO MY POST WILL GO THROUGH?!?!

[MacheTheFerret]

Finally my post went through! Also, suggestion to you 8bit, let's NOT random lynch, shall we?

[Danny]

Finally my post went through! Also, suggestion to you 8bit, let's NOT random lynch, shall we?

And if we don't random lynch we're at risk of being picked off one-by-one by not only the Mafia but the third-party if they aren't already dead. It would be better to take a risk just for today and random lynch somebody, but if the majority doesn't want that I assume that's fine.

The reason for a random lynch is because we have no leads whatsoever and if we don't lynch eventually the Mafia will kill us themselves. It'd be better to risk a Townie life in hopes to get rid of the Mafia, which is a threat shadowing over us. But then again, we don't know if the Morpher is dead, though the only way the Morpher can die is if the VL targeted them.

So, again, the only reason why we'd random lynch is for the hopes to lynch off a Mafia member. We can wait it out right now until our numbers dwindle so we can really start throwing lynches around, but that might be a bad idea.

[MacheTheFerret]

Finally my post went through! Also, suggestion to you 8bit, let's NOT random lynch, shall we?

And if we don't random lynch we're at risk of being picked off one-by-one by not only the Mafia but the third-party if they aren't already dead. It would be better to take a risk just for today and random lynch somebody, but if the majority doesn't want that I assume that's fine.

The reason for a random lynch is because we have no leads whatsoever and if we don't lynch eventually the Mafia will kill us themselves. It'd be better to risk a Townie life in hopes to get rid of the Mafia, which is a threat shadowing over us. But then again, we don't know if the Morpher is dead, though the only way the Morpher can die is if the VL targeted them.

So, again, the only reason why we'd random lynch is for the hopes to lynch off a Mafia member. We can wait it out right now until our numbers dwindle so we can really start throwing lynches around, but that might be a bad idea.

Wha-what??? Since when was the Morpher immune to lynching? But you're right, we don't have any leads. WHAT THE HELL DO WE DO???
For now, I'll target my lynch vote towards GMarinaX, he's the highest on my mental suspicion list for now, until we have better leads (or at least, a lead).

[Danny]

Wha-what??? Since when was the Morpher immune to lynching? But you're right, we don't have any leads. WHAT THE HELL DO WE DO???
For now, I'll target my lynch vote towards GMarinaX, he's the highest on my mental suspicion list for now, until we have better leads (or at least, a lead).

The only person (as far as I'm going to look back, I'm being lazy) that we've lynched is Ragont, and that was through random lynching. If he truly was the Morpher, we got extremely lucky with that. I should have rephrased what I said, because what I was getting at is that because the only person we have lynched was Ragont, the only other way the Morpher could have died is if the VL targeted him.

EDIT: Reading a bit back on it, I don't see how you could be suspicious of GMarinaX, because he hasn't really done anything to be suspicious, though if you'd like to show me what might have looked suspicious, I'll think about him as my lynch vote.

[TLtimelord]

Wha-what??? Since when was the Morpher immune to lynching? But you're right, we don't have any leads. WHAT THE HELL DO WE DO???
For now, I'll target my lynch vote towards GMarinaX, he's the highest on my mental suspicion list for now, until we have better leads (or at least, a lead).

The only person (as far as I'm going to look back, I'm being lazy) that we've lynched is Ragont, and that was through random lynching. If he truly was the Morpher, we got extremely lucky with that. I should have rephrased what I said, because what I was getting at is that because the only person we have lynched was Ragont, the only other way the Morpher could have died is if the VL targeted him.

EDIT: Reading a bit back on it, I don't see how you could be suspicious of GMarinaX, because he hasn't really done anything to be suspicious, though if you'd like to show me what might have looked suspicious, I'll think about him as my lynch vote.

Judging from both PPX's statements and Snow's info, I'd rule out PPX because your intents seem different than what Snow made the mafia seem like. They don't seem like users who haven't got their shit together, but users who have been here since the beginning and may know what they're doing (plus they picked off Snow and Igno, people who know what
they're doing as mafia players.

The first people that come to mind are Pseudo, Khon, and maybe Christian.

I'd say look back through the thread and see if we spot any hints.

[TLtimelord]

Hell man I was going to go with you until I noticed Jacob9300Shadow seemed to know the grammar nazi got krazykat on Day 1. If I were anyone else besides Nien and and grammar nazi, I wouldn't consider that an actual spelling error, merely just a dumb typo.

I'll leave this idea down before we go to any rash decisions like PaperPlayerX did. I think it's a stupid idea to play "trial and error" with only so many of us left.

[Zeldamaster12]

I'm finding PPX to be a little suspicious. He was acting pretty defensive for a second there. Not really enough to put a vote on him, I'm just not really feeling town vibes from him.

[Julia Pseudo]

Yeah, not sure who to kill. I don't know that GMarinaX is a suspect, like 8bit said do you have any reason to suspect him (her?)?

[underFlo]

A green died which is an ok thing to happen, only the VL getting killed would be better.

Also sorry for inactivity but I honestly have a small suspucion on PPX, he's acting really defensive.

Also is what the penguin says a random fact about the game?
Or can he choose what to say?

[Marina]

Wha-what??? Since when was the Morpher immune to lynching? But you're right, we don't have any leads. WHAT THE HELL DO WE DO???
For now, I'll target my lynch vote towards GMarinaX, he's the highest on my mental suspicion list for now, until we have better leads (or at least, a lead).

I thought you weren't doing a list this game??!??!?!?!?!?

Also for crying out loud I'm suspicious now because I stated my opinion that wasn't even related to anything in-game and then made a joke about it.

Some problems with your statements:
1. Never said I didn't like the rules, I was only making a suggestion.

Yes, but you're suggesting to change something that is specifically set in the rules to the exact opposite of what you want. You should've read the rules before joining and have thought about it. If you don't like the rule that mafia kills aren't necessary then you shouldn't have joined, only to then complain about it.

2. How are the games fast paced when the length of each phase is, oh I don't know, HOURS long? You must have a REALLY busy schedule to think that hourse worth of time is a small amount.

Have you heard of school? Homework? Studying? A part-time job? Extracurriculars?? A real life????

What I meant by fast-paced is that the last game was so extreme that I went to school in the morning, and when I came back home in the evening there had been like 20 new pages in the thread. That's not fun to read through. I'm sorry that I don't spend all day at the pc just to see if something happens in an online forum game.

3. How do you try to figure out who the Mafia is without any evidence? That doesn't make a god damn bit of sense.

Well, what I meant by that is that we should think before we act (which is the exact opposite of what you're doing by voting to lynch me right now)
I know that we have to hurry at least a little before the Mafia kills off the town, but seeing as the Mafia has no idea what they're doing, I say we actually take our time to thoroughly think through our suspicions before we randomly knife people.

4. Specifically referring to the second quote, why are you so keen on starting a blame game? It was a game suggestion brah.

It's called a sarcastic remark and wasn't meant to be serious. Don't take everything I say as gospel.

And before you come at me again

I thought you weren't doing a list this game??!??!?!?!?!?

That was also a joke.

[MacheTheFerret]

I've decided to put my response to GMaria in a spoiler, just to let you know.

Spoiler: show

Wha-what??? Since when was the Morpher immune to lynching? But you're right, we don't have any leads. WHAT THE HELL DO WE DO???
For now, I'll target my lynch vote towards GMarinaX, he's the highest on my mental suspicion list for now, until we have better leads (or at least, a lead).

I thought you weren't doing a list this game??!??!?!?!?!?

Also for crying out loud I'm suspicious now because I stated my opinion that wasn't even related to anything in-game and then made a joke about it.

Some problems with your statements:
1. Never said I didn't like the rules, I was only making a suggestion.

Yes, but you're suggesting to change something that is specifically set in the rules to the exact opposite of what you want. You should've read the rules before joining and have thought about it. If you don't like the rule that mafia kills aren't necessary then you shouldn't have joined, only to then complain about it.

2. How are the games fast paced when the length of each phase is, oh I don't know, HOURS long? You must have a REALLY busy schedule to think that hourse worth of time is a small amount.

Have you heard of school? Homework? Studying? A part-time job? Extracurriculars?? A real life????

What I meant by fast-paced is that the last game was so extreme that I went to school in the morning, and when I came back home in the evening there had been like 20 new pages in the thread. That's not fun to read through. I'm sorry that I don't spend all day at the pc just to see if something happens in an online forum game.

3. How do you try to figure out who the Mafia is without any evidence? That doesn't make a god damn bit of sense.

Well, what I meant by that is that we should think before we act (which is the exact opposite of what you're doing by voting to lynch me right now)
I know that we have to hurry at least a little before the Mafia kills off the town, but seeing as the Mafia has no idea what they're doing, I say we actually take our time to thoroughly think through our suspicions before we randomly knife people.

4. Specifically referring to the second quote, why are you so keen on starting a blame game? It was a game suggestion brah.

It's called a sarcastic remark and wasn't meant to be serious. Don't take everything I say as gospel.

And before you come at me again

I thought you weren't doing a list this game??!??!?!?!?!?

That was also a joke.

1. You haven't seemed to grasp yet that I wasn't complaining in the slightest, and that it was a mere suggestion for Nien to take into account. Not only are you taking this too seriously, but also trying to dig it back up after it's been resolved. ??? You are trying so hard to make me look bad that I actually find it comedic. You are entitled to your own opinion, but apparently out of the many users here, I'm the only one who can't have an opinion that differs with another user. Such wonderful logic isn't it?
2. Slow down there buckaroo, how was I supposed to know you had a schedule that actually WAS that busy? Sorry for judging you on that one, but now I'm pretty sure you are trying to frame me using it.
3. You couldn't POSSIBLY know for sure if I put thought into lynch-voting you or not (and I will inform you that I DID put thought into that vote, Mr. I-can-read-peoples'-minds-#notreally) Also, it has been proven that the Mafia CHOSE to not put in a kill a few times. Do you even read brah?
4. If you were shooting for "joke," you missed. Let's just put it that way.

Uggh.

A green died which is an ok thing to happen, only the VL getting killed would be better.

Also sorry for inactivity but I honestly have a small suspucion on PPX, he's acting really defensive.

Also is what the penguin says a random fact about the game?
Or can he choose what to say?

I'm finding PPX to be a little suspicious. He was acting pretty defensive for a second there. Not really enough to put a vote on him, I'm just not really feeling town vibes from him.

For doing what exactly? Seriously, what did I even do? Oh no. Did I have...A CONFLICTING OPINION WITH ANOTHER PLAYER?!?!?! Well that's just awful! I must be extremely suspicious now. #NOPE
Why are you guys so intent on just throwing the blame on someone for having a suggestion? Also, this whole "vibes" thing is really irritating me, it's almost like you're saying, "I find so and so to be suspicious with no reason or rhyme behind my claim."
The whole "I'm being defensive" thing doesn't mean anything either. Just because I was defensive and a Mafia the other game doesn't mean I'm a Mafia this game. No one wants to pay attention, they just want to shift the blame on someone, killing off the innocent people one by one until they screw themselves and die at the hands of the Mafia, or they were the Mafia all along.

[Marina]

1. You haven't seemed to grasp yet that I wasn't complaining in the slightest, and that it was a mere suggestion for Nien to take into account. Not only are you taking this too seriously, but also trying to dig it back up after it's been resolved. ??? You are trying so hard to make me look bad that I actually find it comedic. You are entitled to your own opinion, but apparently out of the many users here, I'm the only one who can't have an opinion that differs with another user. Such wonderful logic isn't it?
2. Slow down there buckaroo, how was I supposed to know you had a schedule that actually WAS that busy? Sorry for judging you on that one, but now I'm pretty sure you are trying to frame me using it.
3. You couldn't POSSIBLY know for sure if I put thought into lynch-voting you or not (and I will inform you that I DID put thought into that vote, Mr. I-can-read-peoples'-minds-#notreally) Also, it has been proven that the Mafia CHOSE to not put in a kill a few times. Do you even read brah?
4. If you were shooting for "joke," you missed. Let's just put it that way.

Honey.

1. I'm not trying to make you look bad, I'm just stating my opinion on something that doesn't even have anything to do with the in-game. Also this is literally the first time I've ever complained about something you said directly, and I don't complain because you have a "different" opinion, I'm complaining because your opinion doesn't make sense.
2. If you haven't noticed, I'm not even trying to frame you in the slightest, this isn't even meant to be evidence against you, I'm behind TNT saying that you're a townie, I'm just pointing out as to why I'm bothered by your suggestion.
3. No you didn't, I said something against you that wasn't even meant to be evidence for you being Mafia but you took it the wrong way and decided to lynch me.
4. Before you try to burn me learn how to ignite a match.

[Marina]

By the way, yes you are acting suspicious, because I didn't even try to indicate in the slightest that you have anything to do with the Mafia and you're already panicking.

I don't think you're a Mafioso though because if you were, you wouldn't ask for a rule to be enforced for Mafia kills to be mandatory because that would make no sense, considering you're the one responsable for the kills.

[underFlo]

A green died which is an ok thing to happen, only the VL getting killed would be better.

Also sorry for inactivity but I honestly have a small suspucion on PPX, he's acting really defensive.

Also is what the penguin says a random fact about the game?
Or can he choose what to say?

I'm finding PPX to be a little suspicious. He was acting pretty defensive for a second there. Not really enough to put a vote on him, I'm just not really feeling town vibes from him.

For doing what exactly? Seriously, what did I even do? Oh no. Did I have...A CONFLICTING OPINION WITH ANOTHER PLAYER?!?!?! Well that's just awful! I must be extremely suspicious now. #NOPE
Why are you guys so intent on just throwing the blame on someone for having a suggestion? Also, this whole "vibes" thing is really irritating me, it's almost like you're saying, "I find so and so to be suspicious with no reason or rhyme behind my claim."
The whole "I'm being defensive" thing doesn't mean anything either. Just because I was defensive and a Mafia the other game doesn't mean I'm a Mafia this game. No one wants to pay attention, they just want to shift the blame on someone, killing off the innocent people one by one until they screw themselves and die at the hands of the Mafia, or they were the Mafia all along.

Umm... no? Being defensive is a typical thing a Maf guy does. I dunno, but I'm getting some Maf vibes from you.
Also I agree with what GLX said. NOW FINALLY LET ME POST.

[RudeGuy]

I can't see any suspicious on GMarinaX, but I see PaperPlayerX very suspicious. My vote goes to him.

[Danny]

1. You haven't seemed to grasp yet that I wasn't complaining in the slightest, and that it was a mere suggestion for Nien to take into account. Not only are you taking this too seriously, but also trying to dig it back up after it's been resolved. ??? You are trying so hard to make me look bad that I actually find it comedic. You are entitled to your own opinion, but apparently out of the many users here, I'm the only one who can't have an opinion that differs with another user. Such wonderful logic isn't it?

If you're making a suggestion to change a rule you obviously have a complaint about it, so don't try to say otherwise.

Why are you being all defensive, suddenly? That really makes me suspicious of you, and quite honestly, I'm going to vote PaperPlayerX for lynching, since we need to at least make an attempt at ridding the Mafia, and I'm not holding back, because that would be dumb quite frankly.

[TLtimelord]

Before we pull any guns on either PPX or Marina, I want to say this right now.

Look at FallingSnow's statements. He unintentionally told us the mafia is being careful about what they're doing with night kills and are taking a more tactical approach. PPX seems to want to enforce lynches and nightkills, which isn't what the mafia appears to look like. GMarinaX is pretty much innocent outside of being quick to judge on PPX, not even in a serious matter.

If we were to target anybody here, I'd choose someone who has been here, knows what they're doing, OR is someone quiet? Who would just randomly turn Little Boo to stone and who would target krazykat as GN right out of the blue? I think people like Jacob9300Shadow and The Wizard of Off have some explaining to do.

(I know it's against the rules, but I'm not making an entirely new post to fix my bbcode)

[Magna]

The Mafia seems to have been inactive this entire game, so I would think that someone like TheWizardofOff has something to do with all this.

[Marina]

Wizard of Off for the reasons stated by TNT.

I really don't think PPX is Mafia to be honest, because as I've said before, if he really was a Mafia, he wouldn't have asked about changing the rule in the first place.