Super Basic Mario Editor

[Legend-tony980]

Wassup now?

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Ahem. So we can suggest now, huh? So can we have a more successful translucent graphics? By the way, can we have more water background objects? And can we add custom world graphics?

[aero]

Here's a beta idea:

Even though for me it's fun to create a txt and type NPC codes in there,
Instead of that, can it just be tick boxes to make it super easier?

I already plan on making a 'Custom' section for NPCs which is similar to what you said.

More other ideas:

Same above but for BGO and Blocks?

For blocks there will also be a custom section but it may take awhile to implement customization with layers/events. BGOs will also have a custom section.

Blocks: (I can things other ideas for now): Options to make it jump-up-through and fall-through? *Full-through as-in, you will be able to full-through the block, but not able to jump back up.

There's not going to be unlimited possibilities because different block settings require different physics, so I'm not sure if I myself will add this but if different programming groups crop up to make their own versions, when the source code is released, of VSMBX for the purpose of designing physics like this then they should be able to help.

BGO's: have an option to be Forwards or Backwards. Like the quicksand in SMBX:

Forward: Mario will walk behind the BGO.
Backwards: Mario will walk in-front of the BGO.

^^ This would be good for pillars in castles etc!

This is already implemented: http://www.smbxgame.com/forums/v ... =80#p32995

NPC:

Generator: Extend the time more than 1 minute.
Easier way to change the time.
If you choose the projectile, be able to choose how fast it will project out of the pipe. (etc).

This should be simple enough to implement.

Warps:

Extendable Warps: Where warp number 1 (whatever number) will cover a longer area than instead using a lot of warps.

This has been an idea I've kept in mind when I saw how people were trying to make looping levels in SMBX, as in, when you jump in a pit you fall back down from the sky by using instant warps. I'm definitely going to try and work this in.

Events:
Auto-scroll: Able to have more than one section to be auto-scrollable

This should be able to work anyways since sections are going to be independent from one another as opposed to a giant set like in SMBX where they have the chance to intersect and cause problems.

Misc: (Other things or things that can work with, Blocks, BGO's, and NPC's):

Built-in colour GFX changer: Instead of the "have to" adding extra GFX's just for different colour of GFX.
You can click on the GFX you want, and click on a button that will bring up a colour pattern, (or the default windows one), and you can change the colour by that. Then click OK or Apply to change the colour of the GFX you are about to add to your level. - This will not change the GFX itself, just the same one you are about to add to your level. Then once you are done adding the new colour of that GFX, it will reset back to the default colour!

Again, I don't see myself doing this but different people could work together on their own version of VSMBX to support this. I don't really see a point in adding any advanced graphic settings to the editor. My main focuses right now are functionality, and performance.

Wall climbing/jumping: IDK how you will do this, but where you can basicly/somehow wall climb of walls.

Self-pick wall climbing/jumping walls: Where you can pick which blocks you can wall climb/jump off, by ticking one of those tick boxes, which will enable/disable.

I'm wanting to keep VSMBX SMB3-centric as SMBX was. But again, this isn't stopping anyone else from implementing this in the future.

Click Box to add CGFX's: Do you know how SMBX have NPC, Blocks, and BGO's, small black boxes to click on to add it to your level/world map?
There could be one with a plus sign in it, to add a CGFX. Then when you add it to the NPC/Blocks/BGO window, it will ask you how you want to treat the GFX. Then after that, it will add the CGFX, then there will be another plus sign next to the newly added CGFX.

^^ The CGFX's will still have to be in the level folder or Episode folder to work when sharing to other people. If in the Episode folder, it doesn't need to be in a sub-folder for the level that uses it.

I guess this is technically do-able but I honestly don't want to bother with manipulating the editor like that. I think the Custom sections will be enough.

[Thundaga_T2]

How about screen scrolling warps ala Super Mario Bros 3?

[Blck_Guy]

Spoiler: show

Here's a beta idea:

Even though for me it's fun to create a txt and type NPC codes in there,
Instead of that, can it just be tick boxes to make it super easier?

I already plan on making a 'Custom' section for NPCs which is similar to what you said.

More other ideas:

Same above but for BGO and Blocks?

For blocks there will also be a custom section but it may take awhile to implement customization with layers/events. BGOs will also have a custom section.

Blocks: (I can things other ideas for now): Options to make it jump-up-through and fall-through? *Full-through as-in, you will be able to full-through the block, but not able to jump back up.

There's not going to be unlimited possibilities because different block settings require different physics, so I'm not sure if I myself will add this but if different programming groups crop up to make their own versions, when the source code is released, of VSMBX for the purpose of designing physics like this then they should be able to help.

BGO's: have an option to be Forwards or Backwards. Like the quicksand in SMBX:

Forward: Mario will walk behind the BGO.
Backwards: Mario will walk in-front of the BGO.

^^ This would be good for pillars in castles etc!

This is already implemented: http://www.smbxgame.com/forums/v ... =80#p32995

NPC:

Generator: Extend the time more than 1 minute.
Easier way to change the time.
If you choose the projectile, be able to choose how fast it will project out of the pipe. (etc).

This should be simple enough to implement.

Warps:

Extendable Warps: Where warp number 1 (whatever number) will cover a longer area than instead using a lot of warps.

This has been an idea I've kept in mind when I saw how people were trying to make looping levels in SMBX, as in, when you jump in a pit you fall back down from the sky by using instant warps. I'm definitely going to try and work this in.

Events:
Auto-scroll: Able to have more than one section to be auto-scrollable

This should be able to work anyways since sections are going to be independent from one another as opposed to a giant set like in SMBX where they have the chance to intersect and cause problems.

Misc: (Other things or things that can work with, Blocks, BGO's, and NPC's):

Built-in colour GFX changer: Instead of the "have to" adding extra GFX's just for different colour of GFX.
You can click on the GFX you want, and click on a button that will bring up a colour pattern, (or the default windows one), and you can change the colour by that. Then click OK or Apply to change the colour of the GFX you are about to add to your level. - This will not change the GFX itself, just the same one you are about to add to your level. Then once you are done adding the new colour of that GFX, it will reset back to the default colour!

Again, I don't see myself doing this but different people could work together on their own version of VSMBX to support this. I don't really see a point in adding any advanced graphic settings to the editor. My main focuses right now are functionality, and performance.

Wall climbing/jumping: IDK how you will do this, but where you can basicly/somehow wall climb of walls.

Self-pick wall climbing/jumping walls: Where you can pick which blocks you can wall climb/jump off, by ticking one of those tick boxes, which will enable/disable.

I'm wanting to keep VSMBX SMB3-centric as SMBX was. But again, this isn't stopping anyone else from implementing this in the future.

Click Box to add CGFX's: Do you know how SMBX have NPC, Blocks, and BGO's, small black boxes to click on to add it to your level/world map?
There could be one with a plus sign in it, to add a CGFX. Then when you add it to the NPC/Blocks/BGO window, it will ask you how you want to treat the GFX. Then after that, it will add the CGFX, then there will be another plus sign next to the newly added CGFX.

^^ The CGFX's will still have to be in the level folder or Episode folder to work when sharing to other people. If in the Episode folder, it doesn't need to be in a sub-folder for the level that uses it.

I guess this is technically do-able but I honestly don't want to bother with manipulating the editor like that. I think the Custom sections will be enough.

Thanks, for considering and answering to my ideas!

Forward: Mario will walk behind the BGO.
Backwards: Mario will walk in-front of the BGO.

This already was implemented. did you read the comments? (I think i read something about that.)

I'm not the only one that doesn't read before posting...:

Wassup now?

Spoiler: show

Ahem. So we can suggest now, huh? So can we have a more successful translucent graphics? By the way, can we have more water background objects? And can we add custom world graphics?

[Julia Pseudo]

Ooh, those answers are very exciting, GhostHawk, especially the "custom" section in the editor. Will you be able to customize NPCs on a per-NPC basis or will it be per-level like in SMBX? Either way this is looking awesome as usual.

[aero]

Ooh, those answers are very exciting, GhostHawk, especially the "custom" section in the editor. Will you be able to customize NPCs on a per-NPC basis or will it be per-level like in SMBX? Either way this is looking awesome as usual.

The way I have NPCs set up at the moment could allow customization per-NPC rather than per-Level.

[Julia Pseudo]

That's fantastic to hear! It'll be really useful for having, like, a specific Goomba turn around at an edge or similar.

[xxxzzz1]

Global events would be handy, if I may suggest.

[Axiom]

Ahem. So we can suggest now, huh? So can we have a more successful translucent graphics?

dont worry, .net has native translucency support and using masks won't be screwed like in SMBX.

btw ghost, have you gotten mask code working yet? if need be I could probably work out a library that'll help you out there but it'll be in c#

[aero]

Ahem. So we can suggest now, huh? So can we have a more successful translucent graphics?

dont worry, .net has native translucency support and using masks won't be screwed like in SMBX.

btw ghost, have you gotten mask code working yet? if need be I could probably work out a library that'll help you out there but it'll be in c#

Yeah masks work just fine.

[Julia Pseudo]

Global events would be handy, if I may suggest.

This would by far be the most important "new feature" to implement. Perhaps it could be done by creating events in the world file that would show/hide layers with specific names that were common throughout all levels in the episode?

[Axiom]

Global events would be handy, if I may suggest.

This would by far be the most important "new feature" to implement. Perhaps it could be done by creating events in the world file that would show/hide layers with specific names that were common throughout all levels in the episode?

Or it would hide/show actual things on the world map with that name. Or maybe, they could be very similar with level layers and events, with moving and such.

didn't you just say you were out

[Fuyu]

I've got a suggestion, what about non-free level transition? Like on SMW, instead of freely moving through the paths between levels, one you press an arrow key it follows the path until it arrives to the next level location.

[Julia Pseudo]

^
This should be an option in the world editor, not required, but I agree it'd be kind of nice.

Also yeah what SnifitGuy said about adding "layers" to world maps, that'd also be extremely useful.

[BMatSantos]

Still talking about world maps, what about map boundaries and various map sections, just like in the level editor, instead of putting separated paths so far away from each other and having to place a lot of tiles only to avoid cutoffs.

[aero]

The world map should have events however I need to have gameplay before I can worry about that stuff right now.

[aero]

Update
*I added a list of the current Alpha and Beta testers. More people will be asked (maybe 2 or 3?) as the month goes on. Check the first post to see.

*I finished clearing out all noticeable bugs, and now my primary goals are still with performance and now setting up the editor to be more dynamic and ready for gameplay.

*Save files have been re-mapped.

[Blck_Guy]

Here's a few more ideas:


1.) Level Editor: Is there going to be an optional timer? - If so:

1a.) In the Events, could there be a way to reward a player with extra time? E.g: Player beats boss, minigame, etc, and instead (or both) of getting an item or a life, you could, give xyz amount of time for a reward. (You did say you want a SMB3 aspect, so time limit was in it!!)

1b.) NPC Time adder/decreaser: Time stopwatch or a clock, that will add/decrease you time limit, you would only need one clock to already in the level editor. - They can just add there own colour to the level editor.

[Blck_Guy]

Here's a few more ideas:


1.) Level Editor: Is there going to be an optional timer? - If so:

1a.) In the Events, could there be a way to reward a player with extra time? E.g: Player beats boss, minigame, etc, and instead (or both) of getting an item or a life, you could, give xyz amount of time for a reward. (You did say you want a SMB3 aspect, so time limit was in it!!)

1b.) NPC Time adder/decreaser: Time stopwatch or a clock, that will add/decrease you time limit, you would only need one clock to already in the level editor. - They can just add there own colour to the level editor.

I think we should let him finish the default settings and release the new editor ASAP instead of him adding new level setting features every minute.

Um...

EDIT: Suggestions now openly welcome in this thread and on the VSMBX forums.

[TangledLion]

Here's a few more ideas:


1.) Level Editor: Is there going to be an optional timer? - If so:

1a.) In the Events, could there be a way to reward a player with extra time? E.g: Player beats boss, minigame, etc, and instead (or both) of getting an item or a life, you could, give xyz amount of time for a reward. (You did say you want a SMB3 aspect, so time limit was in it!!)

1b.) NPC Time adder/decreaser: Time stopwatch or a clock, that will add/decrease you time limit, you would only need one clock to already in the level editor. - They can just add there own colour to the level editor.

I think we should let him finish the default settings and release the new editor ASAP instead of him adding new level setting features every minute.

Um...

EDIT: Suggestions now openly welcome in this thread and on the VSMBX forums.

Yeah, but we don't want to overwhelm GhostHawk, he IS doing this just for chopstics.

And don't you think the rest of us have more ideas? Of course we do! I for one have at lest ten more, But I'm holding back till he finishes basic gameplay at least.

(Sry if this seemed like I was angry posting this but I'm simply trying to convey my points in a concise manner)