.RAR Files

YouTube · Postby **bossedit8** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 5:14 am

So maybe think those .RAR files could be a good use in here but sometimes there is a little issue with them. Not everyone can unpack a .RAR file because you need WinRAR or 7zip (there are more) to unpack it. With .ZIP files you do not need some extra tools to unpack it so what is the point of putting them into .RAR files? For my personality it is a little waste of time to put them into .RAR files and unpack it too. .ZIP files are for me (and most of the members) better to handle especially for example a single Level.

Keddy · Postby **Keddy** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 5:23 am

Yes, i've noticed this problem and have since put everything in .zip files. It's just easier for everyone, .rar files are better if you're trying to keep whatever you packed safe with a password and extra security, but for what we do here, .zip files are the way to go.

Postby **Raster** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 6:39 am

Just looking at this thread makes my head hurt. What is so wrong with installing a lightweight RAR extractor? RAR files are a lot more convenient for a multitude of reasons.

YouTube · Postby **bossedit8** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 6:56 am

Well, I do not have a problem with it but it is a waste of time (by low amount of PC Space/bytes) and there are members/peoples that does not have those patching files...

Valtteri · Postby **Valtteri** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 7:29 am

I personally use .zip for the same reason as elitalianoverde. Some people don't have a .rar extractor. I know it's far from difficult or even time consuming to get one, but since I can create .zips just as easily as .rars, I might as well go with .zips since I do want everyone to be able to access my creations easily.

Postby **Shadow Yoshi** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 9:41 am

I like zipfiles because they're integrated very well into Windows. RAR files are fine, since I have WinRAR, and I guess sometimes RARs have better file sizes. It also helps because I deal with a lot of tarballs and other Linux-based archive files.

7zip is a gross program in my opinion and shouldn't be used in favor of WinRAR. WinRAR is great because it can open more files than 7zip (I think) and it doesn't try to install stuff on your computer.

FallingSnow · Postby **FallingSnow** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 1:41 pm

Joey wrote:WinRAR is great because it can open more files than 7zip (I think)

I thought it was the other way around actually. Maybe not.

Joey wrote: and it doesn't try to install stuff on your computer.

I have no idea what you're talking about with that statement.

I prefer using zip than rar just for simplicity's sake. 99% of people can open a zip. Not as many can easily open a rar.

Mable · Postby **Mable** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 2:14 pm

Plsno

I had this discussion already with Kep
Rar is not installing any malware or stuff as some people metioned somewhere on the internet it is a friendly tool. But if you clever enough to download it not from the official hosted one more then from a virus one then alright but NO.
And you can always ask for a zip version if the creator only did make a rar one it is nothing that hurts someone.

Postby **Raster** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 2:48 pm

FallingSnow wrote:I have no idea what you're talking about with that statement.

I get a ton of promotions while using 7zip (that prompted me to uninstall it and use WinRAR instead.) For what it's worth WinRAR is way better looking and feels easier to use.

Postby **Shadow Yoshi** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:06 pm

Yeah, basically what Raster said about the 7zip installer.

Also, I'm pretty sure WinRAR doesn't tell you about all of the filetypes it can open (it only says some I think), but if you go into "Default Programs" (or associate extensions/whatever) in Control Panel it shows a lot of filetypes that are associated with the program.

Bryan · Postby **Bryan** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 6:38 pm

Joey wrote:Yeah, basically what Raster said about the 7zip installer.

Also, I'm pretty sure WinRAR doesn't tell you about all of the filetypes it can open (it only says some I think), but if you go into "Default Programs" (or associate extensions/whatever) in Control Panel it shows a lot of filetypes that are associated with the program.

To go along with what Joey said, I managed to gather some of the file extensions that WinRar can open, I'm pretty sure this is not a complete list, but it gives you a look into the capabilities of WinRAR anyways.

Spoiler: show

I'm pretty sure WinRAR can open a wider range of files, but this is a list that I gathered based on my system's credentials. Overall, it's still a wide range of file extensions. Anyhow, the top programs for compressing files seem to be 7zip, WinRAR and WinZip, they all can compress files but they do work a bit differently. Anyhow, my vote is for WinRAR because that's basically what I have on my system, it works just fine. I'm pretty sure the others (7zip and WinZip) can do the same thing, but I haven't tried those out myself. I guess the thing to argue about is which one is more powerful, example, which can perform better file compression.

Postby **Shadow Yoshi** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 9:29 pm

I've always not liked the idea of WinZip. It's like...why should I download a program that lets me do what Windows already does?

ragont · Postby **ragont** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 11:27 pm

Raster wrote:
FallingSnow wrote:I have no idea what you're talking about with that statement.
I get a ton of promotions while using 7zip (that prompted me to uninstall it and use WinRAR instead.) For what it's worth WinRAR is way better looking and feels easier to use.

idk
i've been using 7zip for literally years now and i've never had problems like that.
i've always been able to unzip archives with absolutely no problems as well.
might be because i haven't updated in so fucking long though, idk.
if it even has updates, that is.

michel · Postby **michel** » Sun Jan 19, 2014 9:26 am

The compression rate for RAR/7z files is higher, meaning the file size is smaller. Using RAR to compress single files or multiple small files is pointless.

And unless you are running MS-DOS on a floppy disk with only 1.44MB storage capacity, you don't have to worry about clogging up your system with a file extractor.

silent_ · Postby **silent_** » Sun Jan 19, 2014 9:39 am

.RAR files literally suck and I'm never willing to download WinRAR again.
It's a waste of space, time, and it's a junky program that put a virus on my old computer. It could of been an alternative (meaning it was something else), but I assure you in the middle of its processing and extracting my whole screen turned black and it never came back on. Hell, an expert got it to work but I said screw it, I'll simply buy another one.
I have an attitude when it comes to these type of threads, and I admit it. One of these got constructed on SMBX:R by me and I'm pretty sure a whole war began there. It's just that every single user here have some excuse why .RAR files are way better than .ZIP. It's simply not true, when it comes to myself.

I really, really want to request those who use .RAR files to quit. Otherwise, I'd be grateful.

Mable · Postby **Mable** » Sun Jan 19, 2014 10:53 am

Kep wrote: put a virus

No.

Kep wrote:I really, really want to request those who use .RAR files to quit. Otherwise, I'd be grateful.

Do you want to force them to quit if they don't want to use a other one?

Kep wrote:One of these got constructed on SMBX:R by me

I disgreed the rule since you left your position again.

Postby **Shadow Yoshi** » Sun Jan 19, 2014 11:31 am

The WinRAR installer doesn't just "put viruses on your computer". You must've downloaded it from an untrustworthy source.

Postby **Raster** » Sun Jan 19, 2014 11:57 am

Kep wrote:.RAR files literally suck and I'm never willing to download WinRAR again.
It's a waste of space, time, and it's a junky program that put a virus on my old computer. It could of been an alternative (meaning it was something else), but I assure you in the middle of its processing and extracting my whole screen turned black and it never came back on. Hell, an expert got it to work but I said screw it, I'll simply buy another one.
I have an attitude when it comes to these type of threads, and I admit it. One of these got constructed on SMBX:R by me and I'm pretty sure a whole war began there. It's just that every single user here have some excuse why .RAR files are way better than .ZIP. It's simply not true, when it comes to myself.

I really, really want to request those who use .RAR files to quit. Otherwise, I'd be grateful.

Did you download WinRAR from Rarlabs? That's the only trustworthy site to download it. You must've installed it via a third-party downloader or installer. WinRAR isn't junky at all. It's in fact running really smoothly on every computer I've tried (including a really old desktop with Windows 98 on it with only 256 MB of RAM.)

michel · Postby **michel** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:14 am

Kep wrote:.RAR files literally suck and I'm never willing to download WinRAR again.
It's a waste of space, time, and it's a junky program that put a virus on my old computer.

WinRAR itself didn't put a virus on your computer. You must have downloaded it from one of those shitty third-party websites that have custom installers that have a million of sponsor offers in them that you accepted to install.

Kep wrote:It's just that every single user here have some excuse why .RAR files are way better than .ZIP. It's simply not true, when it comes to myself.

Because the compression is simply more efficient. Compared to .zip files, not only does RAR decrease the file size, it's also capable of encrypting, adding comments, passwords, diving into parts and among other useful functions the regular .zip file lacks.

Kep wrote:I really, really want to request those who use .RAR files to quit.

Like it or not, RAR files are here to stay, because they're overall better than regular zip files if used in the right situation. Nobody is going to stop using them just because you dislike WinRAR.

Bryan · Postby **Bryan** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:03 am

Best way to download WinRAR is here.
My best guess is Kep downloaded his version of WinRar from Softonic or CNET. Those sites have some shitty application/program installers that just junk up your system with crap, or other unwanted applications. Softonic is a big NO NO for me right away.