Super Mario: Shine Rush Level Preview #1

[BrosRoad]

A preview of my new upcoming Episode Super Mario: Shine Rush!
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tck1Vc ... sp=sharing

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Have Fun!

[Just_Thomas]

Let me give you some feedback on this.
Firstly, you should know that the different games have very different styles. Mixing them together is sometimes really difficult without making things look strange [well to be honest, even Nintendo did it A LITTLE BIT wrong with the e-reader levels sometimes IMHO].
For instance I see a SMB3 goomba and a SMB2 Shy guy. SMB3 has more grayish colors, SMW has fewer colors, but the colors are more powerful.
If you don`t know what I mean, check out a few original examples here:
https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/SuperNES/index ... MarioWorld
https://vgmaps.com/Atlas/SuperNES/index ... ioAllStars
On the last picture also I see a lot of "just filled with a repeating" tile stuff. If you do stuff like that, please make sure, it does not look too bland.
If you are able to work with colors (to make looks more matching with each other) and a graphic programm, I suggest you something like this here to work with:
https://mfgg.net/index.php?act=resdb&pa ... 1&id=30023

Actually we have a screenshots thread somewhere where people can show their work without opening a new thread on their own... but ... I can not find it again... uhm.. otherwise I would have shown you some examples.

[BrosRoad]

Ok, thank you for the feedback, I will change that to look much better.

[BrosRoad]

Also, if anyone could give me some stuff so that I could have achievements, please post it down here.

[mariobrigade2018]

Also, if anyone could give me some stuff so that I could have achievements, please post it down here.

These resources will help.

https://docs.codehaus.moe/#/features/achievements
https://docs.codehaus.moe/#/reference/achievements

[BrosRoad]

Thanks! I will put you in the credits for this.

[TLtimelord]

Ok, thank you for the feedback, I will change that to look much better.

In direct contrast I disagree almost entirely with what Just_Thomas has said. Seperating levels by gamestyle feels unnecessary, what you should focus on first is gameplay, make sure the level is fun to play & makes the player feel accomplished at the end of it. Then, if you so desire, polish up the aesthetics you've chosen after all is said and done.

We smbx users that have been around longer have spent years fighting against the stigma of "clash" that we used to abide by strictly like this. Just do what you want to do and have fun doing it.

[Just_Thomas]

Ok, thank you for the feedback, I will change that to look much better.

In direct contrast I disagree almost entirely with what Just_Thomas has said. Seperating levels by gamestyle feels unnecessary, what you should focus on first is gameplay, make sure the level is fun to play & makes the player feel accomplished at the end of it. Then, if you so desire, polish up the aesthetics you've chosen after all is said and done.

We smbx users that have been around longer have spent years fighting against the stigma of "clash" that we used to abide by strictly like this. Just do what you want to do and have fun doing it.

This can be easily “corrected” by adjusting the color of the sprites of certain objects. It simply looks more harmonious. I also see a lot of work by other people who probably have a similar view. For example here:

Episode got some updates, including a new, widescreen resolution! Thanks to Beta 5 update it is possible now.

World map got revamped tileset (mainly for reasons of better workflow), but I kept that as closest as possible in terms of prevoius version.



I designed a new HUD to fit new resolution better and item box now spawns items next to player instantly.

... or this here:

Here are a few more level design ideas that I have been working on recently.

@PixelHoyte: I am impressed by the screenshots you've shown. I dig what you're doing.

Thank you very much! I have been following Super Mario Zeal's progress as well, awesome work.

It remains to be seen whether everyone likes this art style, but here everything seems to have been cast all of a piece.
It looks very professional, so both examples from my point.
It's the same as with the various building elements in Mario Maker. Just because they're all there doesn't mean you have to cram them all in.
Even with art, you think about what fits together. Be it colors or what you want to see when building levels, gameplay elements or tilesets.
Yes, this is my opinion of course.

(I agree with you in terms of gameplay and the fun factor through, my post was about the visual appearance)

Or if I want to include shy guys in a SMW themed / looking level I would take something like this here:
https://mfgg.net/index.php?act=resdb&pa ... 1&id=39980
(or recolor them myself in the SMW style).

Otherwise think of food. You can hate a particular kind of food, but still it has been cooked and prepared professional.
Perhaps it is now a little more obvious what I actually wanted to say. Sometimes you need a few more words to say what you want to say.

[mariobrigade2018]

An essay.

Remember that this is his episode, so if he want to use mixing art styles, then he can do that.

[Just_Thomas]

a very "useful" reply

Actually you do not even need to read this, it is once again a very long post ...

I'll be honest, most people don't get any feedback here. I do not want to judge other people for not doing that BTW (there can be several reasons: no time, not interested, no idea what to say, have done this way too often ...). And it doesn't matter to me whether Discord is so popular now or not.
If they post on the forum, why not giving them a reply? Obviously this is not everytime possible.
Maybe I just have empathy for other people. Just because this is the internet doesn't mean you have to be as emotionless as a machine.
Several nice users helped me out here. I was very thankful for that. Those who take should also give something.

And the people who are still at the beginning and sometimes making their first attempts at level design. No matter how much talent someone has, you have to start somewhere. I am not into trolling and if somebody feels offended by my post because it is too harsh or something like that, people can always tell me. Can sometimes happen, especially unintentionally, specially on the internet with mostly text around.
I think we are sensible people and can talk to each other sensibly. We'll probably all have enough trouble in real life.

By the way, I don't understand what replies like yours are supposed to achieve. You've already done that a few times like here. Even with other users.
I was quite willing to give the user a meaningful answer. Level design and art design are real things and we have a lot of people on the forum who know about them (very impressive work sometimes). Just because this is a fan community, I don't know why you shouldn't take that into account. You can mix fun with learning and improving, the one does not necessarily exclude the other.
Of course, you can always remain silent in such cases. It makes things easier for you (in general, for everybody of course). But if you know anything about politics, you should know that silence can be dangerous in the long run. Tears won't help afterwards. But that's just as an aside.

PS: No one is obliged to respond to criticism (or to implement them), if you want to do certain things differently or insist on them, that's perfectly OK. That can be clarified calmly and objectively.

Do you remember that one here?

Nobody can help me...

Because of this post, the only thing I can say to you is...

Spoiler: show

GIT

Spoiler: show

GOOD

You need to be patient with other people. The world doesn’t revolve around you.

Probably needs no further comment. Everybody can have a bad day, but this was really far from nice.

And I've already offered you that you don't need to respond to my posts. I don't understand why you always feel addressed.
AFAIK you are NOT a forum moderator. You are free to ignore content you are not interested in. I told you, you can even put me on ignore list, if my posts bother you too much. I could say a lot of other things now, but that would at least end in a warning for me ...
Excuse me mods for this post, no more offtopic here from my side.

[mariobrigade2018]

a very "short" reply

The quote that you showed was indeed me having a bad day. As for the rest of the post...



also, people on the discord are complaining about these long responses...just saying.

[TLtimelord]

a lot of words

Fundamentally I agree with the idea of "make things look good together" but my point was that it needs to be a lower priority than making sure your levels are fun to play. You were and are focusing on wanting everything to look as nice as possible and I'm telling you that's what smbx players did for years and it has left us with mountains of not only unfinished content but content that may look nice but is uninteresting to play. People were focused on arbitrarily set standards on aesthetics and not what makes making Marios fun. You don't need to show me a hand-selected list of the most visually impressive forum screenshots to prove a point that I do partially agree with.

[BrosRoad]

Otherwise think of food. You can hate a particular kind of food, but still it has been cooked and prepared professional.
Perhaps it is now a little more obvious what I actually wanted to say. Sometimes you need a few more words to say what you want to say.

Thanks for the advice.