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Debate me about a supervillain goal idea I have

Postby ArcyTheAtrocious » Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:09 pm

Hiya, it's me Arcy, the guy who's been making the 3D gfx in smbx back in the day. I've been offline and not besn using smbx for a while, but this week, im beginning to continue my work and try to restore what i deleted coz i formatted my laptop, so my Rookie sprites are probably deleted, as well as the koopalings.

Anyway, here is the supervillain idea i have. If this cannot be fought against, then i rlly made a character. U can say whether its good or bad, im just looking for a counterattack from you. Click the spoiler to read:
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One tragic story about (i'll put a name as example) Bert is about a criminal (let's name him) Zach who went to prison for murder, escaped, and adopted a new identity, and eventually killed Bert's parents. Bert got mad and watched over the prison to see if any incarcerated criminal attempts to escape. If he sees one escaping, he will murder them without mercy. Bert deems his victims "unredeemable" as he sees prison as a redemption place for those who are incarcerated there. Bert does this to prevent innocent lives being taken by any criminal who escapes from prison.

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Re: Debate me about a supervillain goal idea I have

Postby Sonya Sanchez » Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:57 am

Wait so his Parents get murdered and then he literally kills every prisoner who escapes from prison?

What’s his reason to just brutally murder them? This makes him look like a serial killer and not a supervillain, b cause that is not really protecting innocents.

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Re: Debate me about a supervillain goal idea I have

Postby Emral » Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:48 am

"I lost my parents so now I will make sure that countless other families also lose relatives to murder"
Not a very smart guy, that. I feel like all it takes is someone saying "ummm those guys have families too yknow and by now you murdered more than they have" for him to come to his senses. Or be arrested. Either way. Maybe once he leaves prison he won't get murdered by a short-sighted doofus.

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Re: Debate me about a supervillain goal idea I have

Postby FireyPaperMario » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:14 am

This "Supervillain" reminds me of the Joker from Batman for some reason

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Re: Debate me about a supervillain goal idea I have

Postby Fuyu » Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:10 pm

I think something along the lines of "People think my parents were criminals when they really weren't so I'm going to frame all parents for murder" would kind of be more logical.

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Re: Debate me about a supervillain goal idea I have

Postby ArcyTheAtrocious » Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:30 pm

Thank you for your responses, guys. So far, I've published two parts in the story involving the supervillain, who hasn't come out yet, so that i can build character out of the consequences the supervillain makes. Since this is a debate, I shall respond to your cons regarding the topic. I'm not much of a fighter, since this is my first time doing an original story, except the M01 - Super Mario Bros.
Idunn wrote: Wait so his Parents get murdered and then he literally kills every prisoner who escapes from prison?

What’s his reason to just brutally murder them? This makes him look like a serial killer and not a supervillain, b cause that is not really protecting innocents.
That's the whole point of his "crusade". The answers are already provided in my blog. Someone who's escaped from prison to kill Bert's parents (it's not out of nowhere or personal. it's best u know about Bert's backstory which i havent happen to write yet). Criminals escape to continue killing lives, whether intentional or not.
Enjl wrote: "I lost my parents so now I will make sure that countless other families also lose relatives to murder"
Not a very smart guy, that. I feel like all it takes is someone saying "ummm those guys have families too yknow and by now you murdered more than they have" for him to come to his senses. Or be arrested. Either way. Maybe once he leaves prison he won't get murdered by a short-sighted doofus.
Prison is the post-judgment place. The families of criminals have heard everything (in court) the criminal had done before the criminal goes to prison. Their families reacted enough and they have nothing to do with it. The criminal will be either disowned, avenged, etc. If someone happens to love the criminal so much in a romantic or sibling or child way and goes to revenge, Bert does have some trouble.
Fuyu wrote: I think something along the lines of "People think my parents were criminals when they really weren't so I'm going to frame all parents for murder" would kind of be more logical.
Probably similar to what Enjl posted, probably. Bert acts as a vigilante executioner, not someone who frames anybody else. He just keeps watch the prison, if a prisoner tries to escape, Bert catches and kills them.

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Re: Debate me about a supervillain goal idea I have

Postby Cedur » Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:48 am

What do you want to do with this idea and content in the first place?

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Re: Debate me about a supervillain goal idea I have

Postby Sonya Sanchez » Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:37 am

I don’t really agree with the criminals escape prisons to keep on killing lives.

Therefore I find it edgy how that character acts as "Vigilante executioner" and kills prisoners who escape.
Normally they get put back into jail by the authorities and not just randomly get killed because that would make the person who killed them also a criminal.

Then again it’s your story after all.

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Re: Debate me about a supervillain goal idea I have

Postby ArcyTheAtrocious » Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:09 pm

Cedur wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:48 am
What do you want to do with this idea and content in the first place?
I'm making a "big bad" (main villain) in my original story.
Idunn wrote: I don’t really agree with the criminals escape prisons to keep on killing lives.

Therefore I find it edgy how that character acts as "Vigilante executioner" and kills prisoners who escape.
Normally they get put back into jail by the authorities and not just randomly get killed because that would make the person who killed them also a criminal.

Then again it’s your story after all.
Thank you for the response, Idunn. The character I'm making has actions that do look edgy, but he is in no side of normal to put prisoners back to jail. He (yes, the character is male) makes it clear that criinals are virus that can kill people if they're on the loose. He can be considered a criminal, I get that, it can be a reason why this character should be fought against, but for the being, the character I'm making declares his actions righteous. Like I said, he is in no side of normal.

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Re: Debate me about a supervillain goal idea I have

Postby Cedur » Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:00 am

ArcyTheAtrocious wrote:I'm making a "big bad" (main villain) in my original story.

I mean is this for an SMBX project, or other gaming-related stuff, or just a fanfic or the like?

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Re: Debate me about a supervillain goal idea I have

Postby ArcyTheAtrocious » Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:51 pm

Cedur wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:00 am
ArcyTheAtrocious wrote:I'm making a "big bad" (main villain) in my original story.

I mean is this for an SMBX project, or other gaming-related stuff, or just a fanfic or the like?
Well, this is an off-topic discussion Sandbox after all, so its an original story not relating to Mario.

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Re: Debate me about a supervillain goal idea I have

Postby FireyPaperMario » Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:01 pm

Well, sorry to be a bother, but are you gonna share your original story with you super villain character with us once you finished? I'd like to read it someday. ^^"


Also, I'm writing a original story of my own during my free time.


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