SMBX2 (2.0 Beta 3)

[Taycamgame]

But then that "muncher" would be OP as hell.

[FanofSMBX]

New NPCs will exist alongside old ones - from an editor perspective there won't be a visible difference. All new NPCs will be useable without LunaLua, though some may have optional extensions from the Lua side.

No, what I meant is wouldn't it be easier in the long run to extend PGE instead of SMBX. It may take longer but after that initial hump there will be less issues such as powerups.

[Super Luigi Bros]

But then that "muncher" would be OP as hell.

Maybe make it so that it can't move? You could also use lunalua.

[PixelPest]

New NPCs will exist alongside old ones - from an editor perspective there won't be a visible difference. All new NPCs will be useable without LunaLua, though some may have optional extensions from the Lua side.

No, what I meant is wouldn't it be easier in the long run to extend PGE instead of SMBX. It may take longer but after that initial hump there will be less issues such as powerups.

Some people would like a release before 2020 though

[Hoeloe]

New NPCs will exist alongside old ones - from an editor perspective there won't be a visible difference. All new NPCs will be useable without LunaLua, though some may have optional extensions from the Lua side.

No, what I meant is wouldn't it be easier in the long run to extend PGE instead of SMBX. It may take longer but after that initial hump there will be less issues such as powerups.

Some people would like a release before 2020 though

It also wasn't you I was talking to, FanofSMBX. I was responding to a later post.

[Taycamgame]

But then that "muncher" would be OP as hell.

Maybe make it so that it can't move? You could also use lunalua.

I was talking about the fact that Wart shoots like 10 bubbles or so, that would be OP for a Muncher. Not the fact that it would move. Anyway there is a new fire Muncher coming in beta 4 apparently, so you could just wait for that if you want it to work properly.

[IAmPlayer]

I haven't heard of new Beta 4 stuff here. Is it on hold as of now?

[PixelPest]

I haven't heard of new Beta 4 stuff here. Is it on hold as of now?

No. It's being consistently worked on

[FanofSMBX]

New NPCs will exist alongside old ones - from an editor perspective there won't be a visible difference. All new NPCs will be useable without LunaLua, though some may have optional extensions from the Lua side.

No, what I meant is wouldn't it be easier in the long run to extend PGE instead of SMBX. It may take longer but after that initial hump there will be less issues such as powerups.

Some people would like a release before 2020 though

Okay, but does this mean that PGE is basically on hold then?

[Emral]

Okay, but does this mean that PGE is basically on hold then?

PGE is currently in a state of getting a complete overhaul in its editor to have a more sane base, which will allow stuff like PGE plugins. This feature alone has been WIP for over 3 months now with hardly any noteworthy progress, so...

[Taycamgame]

Is it just Wohlstand working on PGE, or are all the devs working on it aswell as SMBX stuff?

[Emral]

Just Wohlstand. I don't think many people on the team know C++, nor the Qt thing he uses for the editor.

[Axiom]

Just Wohlstand. I don't think many people on the team know C++, nor the Qt thing he uses for the editor.

i've tried to contribute when i can i just never have the time or motivation for it

[Devan2002]

Does anyone think the sound quality for Link sounds worse than 1.3.0.1? Because in 1.3.0.1, it sounded exactly like A Link to the Past.

[Hoeloe]

Does anyone think the sound quality for Link sounds worse than 1.3.0.1? Because in 1.3.0.1, it sounded exactly like A Link to the Past.

The sounds are unchanged in Beta 3. They are still exactly the same as in 1.3.0.1.

In Beta 4 the only difference is that the rupee sound is slightly quieter.

[Quantumenace]

More messing around with memory offsets got me some information not on the wiki. It looks like NPCs treated as blocks have hidden entries in the block array corresponding to their 0x150 value that use some of the unknown fields. These entries appear after normal blocks and aren't picked up by Block.get(). That should probably be on the wiki somewhere.

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Block offsets
0x06 FIELD_WORD		Initial type ID of the block upon loading. This is used by the istillplaywithlegos cheat to reset blocks
0x08 FIELD_WORD		Initial contents ID of the block upon loading. This is used by the istillplaywithlegos cheat to reset blocks

Used only by hidden block entries representing NPCs?
0x5E FIELD_WORD?	        Unknown: accessed for hidden block entries for NPCs
0x60 FIELD_WORD		NPC type ID: the type of the NPC this block entry references; this may be shifted to normal blocks by things that rearrange the block array, like P-switches
0x62 FIELD_WORD?	        Unknown: accessed for hidden block entries for NPCs
0x64 FIELD_WORD?
0x66 FIELD_WORD		NPC array position: The array index of the NPC that this block entry references

[Devan2002]

The sounds are unchanged in Beta 3. They are still exactly the same as in 1.3.0.1.

In Beta 4 the only difference is that the rupee sound is slightly quieter.

I don't know if it's the version I have, but it definitely sounds low quality in 2.0 beta 3.

[Murphmario]

I know for certain that the sound for certain bosses being defeated (Larry & Wart) is messed up. Just PLEASE, fix it. It always has annoyed me.

[Hoeloe]

I don't know if it's the version I have, but it definitely sounds low quality in 2.0 beta 3.

If it's low quality in 2.0 beta 3, it was low quality in 1.3 too. Again, it's using exactly the same sounds. Unchanged.

[The Dwarven Digger]

I've spotted a bug with Uncle Broadsword. When he is holding a shell in his Leaf/Tanooki powerup state, he can jump infinitely. But when you let it go, it returns to just a double jump. I'm not using the infinite jump cheat.