Super Community Contest - We have a Winner!

Oshi · Postby **Oshi** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 5:05 pm

I need to work on my level, it's looking good!!

Kixubug · Postby **Kixubug** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:19 pm

Changed! I'm out of the contest!

PixelPest · Postby **PixelPest** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:56 pm

The101MarioGuy wrote:Changed! I'm out of the contest!

There were never sign-ups so...

Inspirited · Postby **Inspirited** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:01 am

Watch out for the Freestyle Level!

Spoiler: show

Zha Hong Lang · Postby **Zha Hong Lang** » Tue Jul 25, 2017 9:16 pm

I was just thinking about something...

Since we have a lot of judges this contest, why not use something like the truncated mean? Since some peeps might still think people can be biased or have bad tastes in general, this system actively removes outlier scores so that they won't affect the placement of the level, while still keeping the scores from most of the judges.

dragonfan96 · Postby **dragonfan96** » Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:21 am

Its been 76 days since I last been here officially, I'm not really that "thrilled" into SMBX as I once was but you know what, I might as well do one last SMBX level, Since MegaMaker is more "trendy" lately might as well change up the gameplay, :shrug:

Sign me up

AlphaFenix · Postby **AlphaFenix** » Wed Jul 26, 2017 5:04 pm

I not even start my level yet. I need determination. My class will start in the first day of august, so i need to hurry.

Ruan555 · Postby **Ruan555** » Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:14 pm

AlphaFenix wrote:I not even start my level yet. I need determination. My class will start in the first day of august, so i need to hurry.

I haven't started my level yet and my class already started. I'd say we're on a very similar situation, but mine is slightly worse. I hope we can finish our levels in time either way, and i wish good luck to you too.

Yoshi678 · Postby **Yoshi678** » Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:34 pm

Ruan555 wrote:
AlphaFenix wrote:I not even start my level yet. I need determination. My class will start in the first day of august, so i need to hurry.
I haven't started my level yet and my class already started. I'd say we're on a very similar situation, but mine is slightly worse. I hope we can finish our levels in time either way, and i wish good luck to you too.

Aye. Good luck to the pair of you, both in making a level the judges will enjoy and not letting classes get in the way of the deadline. (Which as of posting this is still 19 days away, We all still got plenty of time.) But I have started my level and spent the better part of today really getting in there and making progress on it. I'd now say it's around 30-40% done.

YouTube · Postby **sleepyLundus** » Wed Jul 26, 2017 11:52 pm

I'll be ready to submit my level soon.

Yoshi678 · Postby **Yoshi678** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 9:43 am

Well damn it. I've encountered a pretty miserable problem on my end and it's f*cked up my masks. I hope I can get it fixed soon...

The0x539 · Postby **The0x539** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 10:00 am

Yoshi678 wrote:Well damn it. I've encountered a pretty miserable problem on my end and it's f*cked up my masks. I hope I can get it fixed soon...

Just use PNG?

Yoshi678 · Postby **Yoshi678** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:57 am

The0x539 wrote: Just use PNG?

What? Just convert all my graphics to .png as opposed to the .gif files they've always been?

Doesntpostverymuch · Postby **Doesntpostverymuch** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 12:58 pm

Yoshi678 wrote:
The0x539 wrote: Just use PNG?
What? Just convert all my graphics to .png as opposed to the .gif files they've always been?

Paint.net can edit both files just fine =p

Zha Hong Lang · Postby **Zha Hong Lang** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 1:25 pm

Yoshi678 wrote:
The0x539 wrote: Just use PNG?
What? Just convert all my graphics to .png as opposed to the .gif files they've always been?

If you're using the PGE editor, there should be an option which will help you to safely convert graphics to PNG format. Note that just changing the file format isn't the only step required to change working GIFs to working PNGs, as working PNGs do not have masks.

The0x539 · Postby **The0x539** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 1:42 pm

Zha Hong Lang wrote:
Yoshi678 wrote:
The0x539 wrote: Just use PNG?
What? Just convert all my graphics to .png as opposed to the .gif files they've always been?
If you're using the PGE editor, there should be an option which will help you to safely convert graphics to PNG format. Note that just changing the file format isn't the only step required to change working GIFs to working PNGs, as working PNGs do not have masks.

Also if your masks are broken, the converter won't work too well. Manually replacing black with transparency in the actual file, though, should work fine, and then you save as PNG.

Yoshi678 · Postby **Yoshi678** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 2:24 pm

The0x539 wrote:
Zha Hong Lang wrote: If you're using the PGE editor, there should be an option which will help you to safely convert graphics to PNG format. Note that just changing the file format isn't the only step required to change working GIFs to working PNGs, as working PNGs do not have masks.
Also if your masks are broken, the converter won't work too well. Manually replacing black with transparency in the actual file, though, should work fine, and then you save as PNG.

Allow me to explain my predicament in more detail. I ran the fix bad masks tool (And yes I'm using PGE) out of curiosity and it turned my graphics from this:

To this:

It's not just these two though. Most of the custom graphics in my level have been broken in this fashion.

JupiHornet · Postby **JupiHornet** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 10:28 pm

Zha Hong Lang wrote:I was just thinking about something...

Since we have a lot of judges this contest, why not use something like the truncated mean? Since some peeps might still think people can be biased or have bad tastes in general, this system actively removes outlier scores so that they won't affect the placement of the level, while still keeping the scores from most of the judges.

That's not a good idea. The whole point of judges is to have different opinions

Zha Hong Lang · Postby **Zha Hong Lang** » Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:53 am

JupiHornet wrote:That's not a good idea. The whole point of judges is to have different opinions

Yet people use the truncated mean all the time for judging, especially in sports. Someone even suggested it for maglx3 if they had enough judges.

This doesn't mean that the judges' reviews shouldn't be mentioned if they hit the high or low barrier, but just that their score would not be used in the final mean. If six judges score a level 70-80, and one scores the level 30, then all this does is avoid a score of 69 instead of 75. The end goal isn't to get rid of their opinion, but to avoid it from negatively effecting placement if it's too much of an outlier.

Thehelmetguy1 · Postby **Thehelmetguy1** » Fri Jul 28, 2017 9:35 am

Zha Hong Lang wrote:
JupiHornet wrote:That's not a good idea. The whole point of judges is to have different opinions
Yet people use the truncated mean all the time for judging, especially in sports. Someone even suggested it for maglx3 if they had enough judges.

This doesn't mean that the judges' reviews shouldn't be mentioned if they hit the high or low barrier, but just that their score would not be used in the final mean. If six judges score a level 70-80, and one scores the level 30, then all this does is avoid a score of 69 instead of 75. The end goal isn't to get rid of their opinion, but to avoid it from negatively effecting placement if it's too much of an outlier.

In other words, it prevents the Quill Factor