The Community Punching Bag Problem

FutureNyanCat · Postby **FutureNyanCat** » Sat May 17, 2014 9:20 am

Knux wrote: What's worst of all is I see some of the staff do this occasionally, notably Uncle Sam.

If they are doing the "Community Punching Bag" problem towards me, FanofSMBX, and hawkeyeone, please let Joey know. He can solve that.

FutureNyanCat · Postby **FutureNyanCat** » Sat May 17, 2014 9:27 am

Yeah, this is quite awkward. The staff should have improved on their own behavior right now, otherwise it's becoming a problem for us.

Valtteri · Postby **Valtteri** » Sat May 17, 2014 9:59 am

We don't tolerate behavior like this and we will act if it becomes a problem, but when it something like FanofSMBX going "Can it be killed with hammers?" in every custom NPC topic and someone responds sarcastically, there's no need to act on it as it's something he's been told to stop many times as it's extremely annoying. I'm sorry for taking an individual as an example, obviously the same thing applies to everyone.

Mable · Postby **Mable** » Sat May 17, 2014 10:15 am

FNC2002 in: ANNOYED BY SNOW LUIGI REVAMPED
[13:27] <Nexus|YTP> fnc can't be here for more than 5 hours or less
[13:27] == sleepy [~very.slee@173-16-104-16.client.mchsi.com] has joined #smbx
[13:32] <FNC2002> Nexus, stop it
[13:33] <FNC2002> reghrhre ban
[13:33] <Nexus|YTP> it's true
[13:33] <FNC2002> shut up
[13:33] <FNC2002> reghrhre ban
[13:33] <FNC2002> reghrhre ban
[13:33] <Nexus|YTP> freaking true
[13:33] <FNC2002> reghrhre ban
[13:33] <FNC2002> Shut up you meaningless toaster
[13:33] <FNC2002> reghrhre ban
[13:33] <FNC2002> reghrhre ban
[13:33] <Nexus|YTP> and stop pinging the sleeping guy
[13:33] == sleepy [~very.slee@173-16-104-16.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
[13:33] <FNC2002> Can you shut up now?
[13:33] <FNC2002> reghrhre ban
[13:33] <FNC2002> reghrhre ban
[13:33] <FNC2002> reghrhre ban
[13:33] <FNC2002> reghrhre ban
[13:33] <Nexus|YTP> are you mental
Note: NEXUS is Snow Luigi Revamped (crunch40)

As seen here FNC spammed the chat and reghrhre told him already to stop or he bans him from there. Yet today FNC acted retarded again by joining the channel twice, talking with himself and saying if the duplicate fnc wants to get banned from the operators and then leaved after this.

All out of those 3 Hawk, Fos and FNC the staff told them stoping already with this. Also wasn't it you who also punched on Kep with alot of others it stopped after Joey pointed out that it should stop and wasn't funny anymore.

No one is perfect but that doesn't mean you have 2 constantly punch them. What you don't want that others do with you then don't do it with them.

silent_ · Postby **silent_** » Sat May 17, 2014 10:27 am

I'm a victim, but I have already contacted Joey about it and that certainly helped. Also, I was (and perhaps still am) probably the second biggest victim of the punching bag issue here next to FanofSMBX who definitely gets hatred and rude sarcasm. Anyway, I'm inquisitive to know, Knux, how is FNC going through the punching bag problem? ...Or maybe Gratsel's IRC quote answers that question? And sorry to break it to you, but Hawkeyeone kind of chooses for himself to be a victim of the community punching bag problem, because... do I even have to explain why? The other users in this problem, however, have no reason to be a victim and I feel bad for them.

zlaker · Postby **zlaker** » Sat May 17, 2014 10:43 am

I'm Grastel's and reghrhe's victim :3

Postby **Shadow Yoshi** » Sat May 17, 2014 10:44 am

Right, nobody's perfect, but when we tell those users to stop doing what they're doing so many times, it only makes sense that people are going to start being sarcastic. Is there too much sarcasm toward these users? Yeah, the sarcasm gets overdone to the point where every time these users post something (even if it's not even that bad, like FanofSMBX's episode idea thread) they get it thrown at them.

Kep wrote:The other users in this problem, however, have no reason to be a victim and I feel bad for them.

Not true, in my opinion. Everyone mentioned has their own reasons as to why they're "a punching bag". I'm not saying it's justified, but FanofSMBX isn't any better than Hawkeyeone.

TLtimelord · Postby **TLtimelord** » Sat May 17, 2014 11:06 am

This is how society has always worked. You're acting as if putting down someone is a new thing.

Yes, we know it's pretty rude and inconsiderate when you do it. Yes, we as a forum should target it and try to minimize it.

Postby **Shadow Yoshi** » Sat May 17, 2014 11:13 am

Those being targeted should pull their weight as well and stop doing what it is that makes them annoying.

silent_ · Postby **silent_** » Sat May 17, 2014 1:24 pm

Joey wrote:Not true, in my opinion. Everyone mentioned has their own reasons as to why they're "a punching bag". I'm not saying it's justified, but FanofSMBX isn't any better than Hawkeyeone.

Since you said everyone has their own reason as to why they're a punching bag, I have had no reason to become one unless it's my story that made me a victim, but frankly, that's a horrible reason why I should get cyber bullied. And whether or not it's supposed to be considered cyber bullying, I don't care, I just need a synonym for a punching bag.

Mable · Postby **Mable** » Sat May 17, 2014 1:32 pm

Yeah since you aren't much in the chat people were indeed making fun of you when you posted the story. Just ignore them.

Danny · Postby **Danny** » Sat May 17, 2014 1:34 pm

Hello everyone, let me give my word on this situation.

There's nothing you can do to solve this. There will forever be at least one person that hates you, because not everybody is going to be butt buddies with each other. People are obviously going to call you a fuckwad and pull sarcastic remarks out of their ass if you act like an idiot, but that's just how it works, that's how it's always worked, there's not stop to it! If you tell somebody to "please stop" doing something (especially if you're a staff member) and they don't stop, you have all the right to punish them for it. Sure, talking to them like they're low-life scum is pretty disrespectful, but other than that, what's the big hoopla about?

No matter where you are, some people might treat you like shit, they might hate on you, they might make you feel bad, but that's when you ignore the rude comments and move on. Hang out around the people that are respectful towards you, not the ones that bash on you because you did something stupid or idiotic.

FanofSMBX · Postby **FanofSMBX** » Sat May 17, 2014 1:44 pm

<Quill> KAMEKO
<Quill> GET ALL OF OUR DOTA BUDDIES TO TRASH THIS THREAD http://www.smbxgame.com/forums/v ... =69&t=2417

Quill · Postby **Quill** » Sat May 17, 2014 2:19 pm

FanofSMBX wrote:<Quill> KAMEKO
<Quill> GET ALL OF OUR DOTA BUDDIES TO TRASH THIS THREAD http://www.smbxgame.com/forums/v ... =69&t=2417

Please verify if logs are real or not with me before you post them somewhere like here.

Postby **Raster** » Sat May 17, 2014 2:20 pm

Hawkeyeone has been shoving his comic in our faces since ever. As for FanofSMBX, I think he's annoying because he just wants attention from others. My advice for them: stop with this and change. People will like you.

Please verify if logs are real or not with me before you post them somewhere like here.

Like we don't know that already

Postby **Raster** » Sat May 17, 2014 2:23 pm

Knux wrote:I advertise my comic, too, and I don't get shit for it.

You never said 'REGISTER ON MY FORUM FOR MORE COMICS' though.

sleepy · Postby **sleepy** » Sat May 17, 2014 2:42 pm

FNC isn't getting "bullied". He is annoying everyone. An example would be what GratselBuchner posted.

And, also, this:
FNC joined twice and told his other nick he would be banned because he was "duplicating" him.

said log wrote: <FNC2002> Do you want to get banned for duplicating me?

Postby **Julia Pseudo** » Sat May 17, 2014 3:34 pm

I honestly don't see that much hate on FNC, but I don't think I've spent enough time on IRC with him to comment on this.

As others have said, Hawkeyeone and FanOfSMBX are both kind of attention whores in their own way. FanOfSMBX used to constantly complain about everything that he perceived as wrong with SMBX, perhaps ironically. He seems to have cooled down with that but he still asks a lot of repetitive questions, like the hammer thing.

Hawkeyeone is also constantly advertising his comic. Like others have said, it's virtually the only thing he talks about sometimes and he does it in a much more aggressive way than Knux does, considering that he's constantly pressuring you to join his forums as well.

All in all, people occasionally hating on you on the forums is pretty much unavoidable, especially if people see you as irritating, as 8bit said. As long as people are hating on you based on your actions on the forums and not tangentially related traits you express, I don't see any problem. The staff should probably cut down on it a lot, though, considering that they need to have good relations with the userbase.

Postby **Shadow Yoshi** » Sat May 17, 2014 3:35 pm

For those of you here who think you're being cyberbullied - take it up with me or another staff member.

I can't deny that people here can be a lot nicer to certain users, but I also know that those users are (most of the time) on the receiving end because of something they do wrong or something they do differently. Obviously we're not all going to agree or think the same about things, but there's a fine line between "having a different belief" and "doing something you probably shouldn't".

Yoshibrothers · Postby **Yoshibrothers** » Sat May 17, 2014 11:04 pm

What the fuck is this? You call all this cyberbullying? You people clearly haven't the slightest clue what bullying is if you call THIS cyberbullying. What the hell happened to the "Welcome to the internet" sob story I got what I was in the same position? I didn't whine over my issues. I didn't give in to the bullshit the internet gives out. You are sadly mistaken if you think anything this community does is even close to(so help me God) cyberbullying. And Knux, starting a topic about cyberbullying, the guy, and don't give me bullshit, who inexplicably joined in with these so called "groups" of people by making an entire wiki deticated to not only pure stupidity, but also to hurt the users he or others vaguely disliked. Quit trying to look like the good guy. I know I did the exact same thing, but at least I made wide scaled attempts to fix my wrongs against those I had damaged. I don't mean to bash on these guys, but we don't cyberbully them, we don't actually hate nor dislike them, but they have ridiculous tendencies to do things that not just a group, but almost if not an entire community is annoyed by.

FNC2002 is just a guy who doesn't quite understand the community as a whole, which is something most of us went through one way or another, but he has a habit of acting like an immature child, and with that, is a lightning rod that points everyone's hatred towards him. He has done rather questionable things which has led him to look a bit crazy, and even psychotic, but many people fail to realize that some of us(a lot of us, possibly) have such issues that we do not acknowledge. He also has a ton of gullibility, which makes him vulnerable to many. He doesn't necessarily deserve what is thrown at him, but he needs to realize that his innocent but blunt personality won't get him far unless he makes some changes.

FanofSMBX has a seemingly large amount of love and ideas for SMBX, which tends to be a little to ridiculous at times. His ambitions run high, but they are seen as too stupid and repetitive for the community's interests. At one point(verify me on this one) he even held a belief that Redigit would return and work on SMBX again, and at one point(again, verify me on this one) tried to do something about it himself. While many should let him be on his creativity, he should try not to jump the gun.

Hawkeyeone was and still is at times a very straight forward individual. His biggest and most utter flaw was his high obsession with advertising his webcomic series, The Idiotic Adventures of Hawkeyeone. He crammed his ads continuously into the communities heads and, as a result, everyone got sick of it and began to hate on him. In my personal opinion, he DID kind of set himself up for it, though I don't agree with it. The next problem is of recent. As a result of everyone's negative actions, Hawkeye has acted severely immature in multiple cases. In the end, he simply set himself up for another hatefest. As much as I hate to say it, Hawkeyeone needs to shape up and realize that you need to give time to breathe before you smother people.

Kep is an alright guy if you try to get to know him first. What he needs to realize is that life isn't a review. He seems to have a habit to nitpick almost everything he encounters. He needs to note that some people(a lot in the forum's case) will form negative responses to someone who can't keep his mouth shut at the right times. Another thing(this isn't a habit of him but the forum) is his story writing. Many people are more than often thrown off by what he thinks up, and I have to say that his writing isn't necessarily the best. It needs work, but the community itself shouldn't jab at him with a sharp stick. He tried, and at the end of the day that is all that matters. If you can't stand his fan fiction, don't read it, hell, don't post unless its something nice or useful, and just go do something else. The last thing that can be said about Kep is the way he takes the hate. He becomes a bit disfunctional when he is ganged up on(or even hit by a standalone individual), which makes him an easy target.

Again, this whole thing isn't cyberbullying in the slightest(go find a dictionary), its just what the internet is, and if you can't accept it, then why are you here? Also, THIS IS A GODDAMN MARIO FORUM. Why so much drama happens here is beyond me.