The 'Damsel in Distress' Discourse

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The 'Damsel in Distress' Discourse

Postby Marina » Tue Aug 23, 2016 3:18 pm

So, what's up with Peach getting kidnapped countless times again when games like Super Princess Peach and Super Mario 3D World (and of course the Smash Bros series) have shown that she is clearly able to defend herself against Bowser?

I'm calling for more equality in Mario games. There's enough male characters by now that are just as "fragile" as Peach. Why don't they get kidnapped more often? What about Luigi? He can barely hold up against a boo without completely freaking out.

I'm convinced that sexism is not what Mario is intended to be about, therefore there need to be more male characters getting kidnapped, as well as more female playable characters.

Discuss.

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Re: The 'Damsel in Distress' Discourse

Postby aero » Tue Aug 23, 2016 3:22 pm

Thanks for doing your part to smash sexism, Marina. Sexism doesn't take a holiday so we need to keep calling it out.

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Re: The 'Toad is a Weakling' Discourse

Postby Circle Guy » Tue Aug 23, 2016 3:29 pm

Maybe Peach relies on the toads, as they have been seen being very weak against bowser.
(even though she can defend herself lol)
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Re: The 'Damsel in Distress' Discourse

Postby BTB » Tue Aug 23, 2016 3:36 pm

That's another issue with the Mario games. It's been stated over and over that Toads are asexual, and it just so happens all of them are weaklings who do nothing but get captured by Bowser. Not only do the Mario games portray women as weak, but asexuals as well.

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Re: The 'Damsel in Distress' Discourse

Postby Circle Guy » Tue Aug 23, 2016 4:47 pm

BTB wrote:That's another issue with the Mario games. It's been stated over and over that Toads are asexual, and it just so happens all of them are weaklings who do nothing but get captured by Bowser. Not only do the Mario games portray women as weak, but asexuals as well.
and they trick little kids into thinking course design is easy
START A PETITION

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Re: The 'Damsel in Distress' Discourse

Postby Artemis008 » Tue Aug 23, 2016 4:55 pm

Peach probably has Stockholm syndrome. /s

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Re: The 'Damsel in Distress' Discourse

Postby RudeGuy » Tue Aug 23, 2016 6:03 pm

I agree about having more female characters. Why are all the enemies male?

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Re: The 'Damsel in Distress' Discourse

Postby CynicHost » Tue Aug 23, 2016 6:32 pm


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Re: The 'Damsel in Distress' Discourse

Postby lighthouse64 » Tue Aug 23, 2016 7:03 pm

Merlin wrote:Made a petition.
Why the zipcode though? I can't go around posting my address online!

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Re: The 'Damsel in Distress' Discourse

Postby Egg » Wed Aug 24, 2016 2:06 am

YEAH FEMALE POWER

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Re: The 'Damsel in Distress' Discourse

Postby Magician » Wed Aug 24, 2016 8:49 am

Okay I'll bite, but just for a sec. I don't know if this is ever going to be a serious thread. My body says no but the nostradamus in the centre of my hippo campus says no. Anyway ignore me if it isn't. I'll be short. Peach isn't really fragile, is she? I'm not sure that trope is ongoing anymore, but even so, Mario games fall prey to repetition. The game's surrounding context makes it maybe forgivable. It's still worth talking about outside of the "this game is sexist because it has X thing in it" argument, but I just don't buy that part. I'm still open to future changes though. Wouldn't bother me at all to see a GOOD Super Princess Peach. Peach and Daisy co-op could be fun too.

And Luigi? Pff. He may SEEM a rather dainty character but he faced down King Boo and even worse rebuffs by DAAAAAISY Oh shit. Sorry. They're making me do this. I'm falling into oblivion. The red pill. I can't stop it. They're making me swallow. Oh LAWRDY it's HAPPENING. Tell my children I

I don't want to talk about this at all either! Yeah let's shit up the thread guys!

BTB Not a SINGLE ONE OF THE MARIO CHARACTERS IS SEXUAL.
I fucking dare you to find me ONE picture on the internet of ANY of the Mario characters having sex.

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Re: The 'Damsel in Distress' Discourse

Postby Circle Guy » Wed Aug 24, 2016 9:00 am

But guys, the toads are shown as weak!!!! We nead toad equality!!!!

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Re: The 'Damsel in Distress' Discourse

Postby Magician » Wed Aug 24, 2016 9:17 am

SnifitGuy wrote:
Magician wrote: I fucking dare you to find me ONE picture on the internet of ANY of the Mario characters having sex.
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Is that the one about pictures of goats but it's not ACTUALLY goats

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Re: The 'Damsel in Distress' Discourse

Postby onpon4 » Wed Aug 24, 2016 11:13 am

Personally, I'm more concerned about the blatant turtlism presented in all the Mario games by portraying turtles as bad guys. I mean, come on, Nintendo! It's 2016! You need to give equal representation for every possible demographic in every group, occupation, and situation, or it's perpetuating bigotry!

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Re: The 'Damsel in Distress' Discourse

Postby Circle Guy » Wed Aug 24, 2016 11:15 am

onpon4 wrote:Personally, I'm more concerned about the blatant turtlism presented in all the Mario games by portraying turtles as bad guys. I mean, come on, Nintendo! It's 2016! You need to give equal representation for every possible demographic in every group, occupation, and situation, or it's perpetuating bigotry!
They're saying mushroom people are weak, girls are defenseless, and that turtles are evil???? NINTENDO WHYYYYYYYY

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Re: The 'Damsel in Distress' Discourse

Postby FanofSMBX » Wed Aug 24, 2016 11:35 am

RudeGuy07 wrote:I agree about having more female characters. Why are all the enemies male?
You forgot about Wendy Koopa and Pom Pom?

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Re: The 'Damsel in Distress' Discourse

Postby RudeGuy » Wed Aug 24, 2016 12:08 pm

FanofSMBX wrote:
RudeGuy07 wrote:I agree about having more female characters. Why are all the enemies male?
You forgot about Wendy Koopa and Pom Pom?
They're the only 2 female enemies. Literally every other enemy, in the official games, are male.

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Re: The 'Damsel in Distress' Discourse

Postby Circle Guy » Wed Aug 24, 2016 12:12 pm

RudeGuy07 wrote:
FanofSMBX wrote:
RudeGuy07 wrote:I agree about having more female characters. Why are all the enemies male?
You forgot about Wendy Koopa and Pom Pom?
They're the only 2 female enemies. Literally every other enemy, in the official games, are male.
what about birdo???? :3

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Re: The 'Damsel in Distress' Discourse

Postby RudeGuy » Wed Aug 24, 2016 12:37 pm

Okay, there are 3 female enemies. That doesn't change my point.

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Re: The 'Damsel in Distress' Discourse

Postby HeroOfRhyme » Wed Aug 24, 2016 1:53 pm

what about all the boos, they cant all be male im sure there are females about them.

if you did research im sure youd find more females aswell


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