Mafia Discussion

[Zeldamaster12]

You can't use a dead townsperson as a sub because that would confirm their role as a dead townsperson. In the future, please don't use dead players as subs.

Don't worry. I'm not, and didn't plan to either.

[Shadow Yoshi]

I meant that as just a general comment, and the "in the future" part had more to do with the fact that Spinda had done so in a past game.

[underFlo]

In the past it was a different case though, as Bloodedge's role has been publically revealed by that point.

[Shadow Yoshi]

Was there any mechanic in the game where roleflips could've been tampered with? (I'm assuming that roleflipping was on)

[underFlo]

There may have been, but it couldn't have tampered with the roleflip as the role was a mason who died if the other mason died (and vice versa), and since the other mason died, too, only one role could've possibly been faked.

[PixelPest]

Maybe Ragont could just suddenly succumb to some disease due to the bombs and die in M28

[Zeldamaster12]

Maybe Ragont could just suddenly succumb to some disease due to the bombs and die in M28

I'd rather not.

[Shadow Yoshi]

Was there a Serial Killer/vigi role in that game, Spinda? Did the killing happen during a night phase?

[underFlo]

http://www.smbxgame.com/forums/v ... 40#p164791

here's where he died. It was in the first night with the two not having contacted each other in a way relevant to the game, so he knew as much as anyone else.

[Kyo Saito]

So yeah I'd volunteer as a sub if you'd accept that, but Kyo has higher priority ofc.

I was joking.

It is actually a good thing that I was killed in M28, as I have personal things to attend to in the next few days here, and I wouldn't have been able to keep up.

[TDK]

May be on me for pointing it out, but MECHDRAGON, you should not be saying anything that might indicate what your role was after your have died ("gotten by the Mafia").

It's OK to say "dammit I died" here or whatever, but you should not say anything that could possibly reveal non-public in-game information.

That message does not indicate a role I was. I could of been Mafia, I may not have. for all I know, it could of been Arsonist, Mafia, or Vigilante. I was never night-killed before

Considering that you cardflipped green you could only be Detonation Commander or a Defuser. And saying that you were ''gotten by the Mafia" would imply the latter.

[MECHDRAGON777]

May be on me for pointing it out, but MECHDRAGON, you should not be saying anything that might indicate what your role was after your have died ("gotten by the Mafia").

It's OK to say "dammit I died" here or whatever, but you should not say anything that could possibly reveal non-public in-game information.

That message does not indicate a role I was. I could of been Mafia, I may not have. for all I know, it could of been Arsonist, Mafia, or Vigilante. I was never night-killed before

Considering that you cardflipped green you could only be Detonation Commander or a Defuser. And saying that you were ''gotten by the Mafia" would imply the latter.

It could of been Arsonist... I just was never night killed before.

[Shadow Yoshi]

http://www.smbxgame.com/forums/v ... 40#p164791

here's where he died. It was in the first night with the two not having contacted each other in a way relevant to the game, so he knew as much as anyone else.

Okay, so, I was able to come up with something incredibly insignificant: you technically wouldn't have known if Bloodedge had PM'd somebody else (claiming or whatever) during the night. If he would've been subbed in as a person he had contacted, he would gain the advantage of knowing part of the previous (inactive) player's activity (since he would know that the player had been contacted). Unless people transfer details like that upon subbing (e.g. inactive person tells sub what has happened to them personally), which I suppose has less to do with the actual game and more to do with the concept of subbing itself.

Either way, in the future, I'd rather have subs be new to the game. It's a little weird to have somebody come back playing a different role!!!

[underFlo]

My only problem with Spinda's game is that it doesn't use the normal/conventional colors for Mafia/Werewolf games, which are a little harder to understand, especially for someone like me who is used to the traditional Red/Green/Blue/Yellow. I can understand mixing the colors up, but if the Mafia is purple and the two Third Party members have completely different colors, it can get a little confusing having to deal with unnecessary colors like that.

That's just my personal opinion, however. Another quip I have, though it's relatively minor, is that the entire game is based on in-jokes, which might be hard to follow. I'm not sure I'll participate in Mafia this time around if that one wins, no offense to Spinda, but at least that leaves more room for more players. :D

Putting this here so the postgame thread doesn't derail further.

I'm generally trying to make the colors similar to the normal ones, but add in some twist, for example, the townspeople are still green. If you exclude Linik, there's only 3 colors in the game, and purple = bad is generally already established because it's often used if there's multiple 3rd parties. Grey was mostly used to drive home the point that it's a ghost, and I think it makes logical sense.

Also, even though some things may be based off in-jokes (like glitch4 only being able to use his ability every other day because of inactivity or Mechedit8 distracting people with nonlinear levels), those only add to the "lore" of the game, and with the exception of Ridleygit and Ignoritus, all the roles are pretty straighforward. Feel free to ignore the extra fluff and just focus on the roles themselves!

[Zeldamaster12]

When are host signups going to happen? I want to play SMBX Forum Mafia 2 darn it

[Julia Pseudo]

When are host signups going to happen? I want to play SMBX Forum Mafia 2 darn it

Spinda posted them now in case you haven't seen

[Thingyman]

Hi guys

Thanks to Zeldamaster12 and Joey for helping me out and pointing me this way.

Invitation to The Mafia Championship Season 3

Hello fellow Mafia enthusiasts!

My name is Thingyman. I am making this post with the hopes that your community would be interested in participating in Season 3 of the Mafia Championship.

The Mafia Championship is an annual online tournament series that pits representatives from various forum Mafia communities against one another as they compete to determine the Internet’s greatest forum Mafia player. The representatives are officially and democratically chosen to be “Champions” by their respective communities.

Season 1 (2013-2014) featured 100+ players from 45+ different communities, and the Season 2 (2015) boasted an even more impressive count of 70 different communities represented. The creator of Mafia himself (Dmitry Davidoff) has even supported and endorsed the series by previously offering to privately chat with the ultimate winner.

This year we’re expanding once again; 136 communities will be invited to participate, making this not only the biggest Mafia event ever, but also the largest cross-forum event in the history of the Internet.

Are you interested?

I am hoping very much that this all sounds exciting! If interested, I would need you all to name one representative to play on your community's behalf. How you decide this representative is completely up to you. To guarantee your community a spot in Season 3 of the Mafia Championship, I will need to know of your community's interest within the next 5 days. Following this, you will have until April 18th to name your representative. Additionally, it would be a very good idea to also name an alternate.

When deciding your nomination, please consider the following: You should of course be aiming to send one of your best players. But more importantly this individual needs to be able to participate adequately in terms of activity. Be prepared for maybe upwards of 500 posts per 24 hours during the early stages of the game. The representative needs to not only be able to read all this, but should also at least be able to manage 10+ posts per day phase.

Season 3 Specifics

• 136 different communities are invited to participate. If some decline the invitation, I may opt to allow larger communities an additional nominee.
• 8 Qualifying Games will be played with 17 players each.
• 2 players advance to the Finale Game from each game based on post-game votes.
• 1 Wildcard Game will be played (Wildcards are decided by a jury consisting of former finalists), determining the 17th and final spot in the Finale. Runner-ups in this game will be first in line to replace any finalists who may have to drop out.

Season 3 Timeline & Important Dates

There will be 8 Qualifying Games, and these will take place in late April, May and June. Each game will probably last around 2-3 weeks. Your representative would sign up to play in just one of these games at any time that suits them best (I am sending out a Doodle). I.e. if your representative can’t play until early June, then that’s perfectly fine, he should just sign up for one of the last games.

In addition to this, it is also a priority to ensure as much as possible that all the players in any given game has no prior history of playing with each other to ensure a level playing field (but I cannot 100% guarantee that this won’t happen).

Season 3 Game Design & Setup

For each season, we’ve changed it up. This time, we’re doing something new again!

The setup is called Matrix12 and is inspired by mafiascum’s popular Matrix6 setup, if any of you are familiar with that. In short, the concept is that there are 12 different possible setups and the host randomizes which one is used. The players know what setups are available, but not which one will be used!

I can link to the setup if a link is okay.

Regarding lynch mechanics: There will be a deadline each day phase, and the person with the most votes at the end of the day is lynched, unless a majority has already been reached before then, in which case the day ends prematurely.

Days will last 36 hours and nights 12 hours, meaning 48 hours (2 days) per game day. With one exception: The weekend (Friday, Saturday and Sunday) will be one game day (so day will be 60 hours and night 12 hours on weekends).

[Shadow Yoshi]

Please feel free to use this thread to discuss who we should nominate to participate in this tournament.

[PixelPest]

I'd say Zeldamaster12 for sure. He definitely deserves to participate

[Zeldamaster12]

I'm flattered, but I think Joey would do better than me.