Is This Forum Dying?

Mivixion · Postby **Mivixion** » Mon Mar 30, 2015 7:55 pm

I don't see anything wrong with keeping traditions like the community contest, but new events related and unrelated to SMBX won't hurt either.

YouTube · Postby **bossedit8** » Mon Mar 30, 2015 8:00 pm

This forum tecnically isn't really "dying" as of yet. Sure, some familiar members left this place but even then we gain new members overtime and that is what it makes it keep it up to date. Of course SMBX isn't that new anymore but when you think about it, with the whole Luna stuff it could be even more of a thing rather than we had for like multiple years ago.

aero · Postby **aero** » Mon Mar 30, 2015 8:04 pm

8bitmushroom wrote:It still seems rather empty and inactive.

In all honesty it's not really so bad. You have to take into account that the users here are young and school is back in session, so there's obviously going to be less time to disagree with people's sense of humor in the Forum's Funiest Posts thread and get butthurt about mafia bringing in the usual activity.

SMetoid99 · Postby **SMetoid99** » Mon Mar 30, 2015 9:29 pm

If you think the forums has low activity now, trust me, when the two new editors come out this forum Will go the way of the dodo.

HenryRichard · Postby **HenryRichard** » Mon Mar 30, 2015 9:32 pm

I think that if you wait until summer there will be a flood fludd of activity.

Postby **DarkMatt** » Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:45 pm

Look on the bright side, at least people aren't here for the rollercoaster of drama, because it's at an all-time low.

Mafia doesn't count.

It's what other people say: this is an SMBX forum, and most of us, myself included, don't touch SMBX anymore. I'm amazed I'm still here after all these years of not making anything worthwhile in SMBX. All staying here has proven, past the fact that I love meddling in drama, is that SMBX really isn't my calling.

What OTHER things do we do as a community besides SMBX anyway?

Mafia doesn't count.

Danny · Postby **Danny** » Tue Mar 31, 2015 2:04 am

DarkMatt wrote:Look on the bright side, at least people aren't here for the rollercoaster of drama, because it's at an all-time low.

I'm starting to think all you're doing here is looking for drama or looking to start drama.

It's what other people say: this is an SMBX forum, and most of us, myself included, don't touch SMBX anymore.

Not sure why we're limiting this forum to just SMBX. I'm pretty sure I've gone over before that previous forums, and I'm going to use Knux's as an example, weren't strictly SMBX-based, I'm not entirely sure why this one absolutely has to be about SMBX. Can you answer that question?

I'm amazed I'm still here after all these years of not making anything worthwhile in SMBX. All staying here has proven, past the fact that I love meddling in drama, is that SMBX really isn't my calling.

Okay, and what does this have to say about anything? Nothing really, it seems pretty self-centered to say that.

What OTHER things do we do as a community besides SMBX anyway?

Not much, and we can't do much either because this particular forum, which was supposed to be a step in the right direction for the community, has been, as I had just previously stated, strictly SMBX. That's not really a step in the right direction, unless the right direction is backwards.

Postby **Squishy Rex** » Tue Mar 31, 2015 2:50 am

8bitmushroom wrote:Not sure why we're limiting this forum to just SMBX. I'm pretty sure I've gone over before that previous forums, and I'm going to use Knux's as an example, weren't strictly SMBX-based, I'm not entirely sure why this one absolutely has to be about SMBX. Can you answer that question?

I have to admit, more support for PGE and/or VSMBX would be good for both the developers and for users. They may not be SMBX, but they are both pretty much just Mario at this point in time.

Squishy Rex wrote:If this engine/editor will be capable of so much more than just Mario alone then, let's focus on the bigger picture instead of one or two communities, namely SMBX.org and Talkhaus. The focus point of this project should be on everything that it will be able to do and communities that can benefit from this like RPGMaker, MFGG, hell maybe even the Sonic/Metroid/Kirby? communities. This engine has extreme potential, and by focusing on one or two main sites may not be enough to see it thrive to it's maximum. By spreading the word about PGE on different high traffic sites you set up a wider catchment for fans. Then of course the word of mouth will do the rest. So let's no do anything rash or anything that could restrict possibilities, especially at this point in the game. Every move we make as a team and everything we do for this engine must be done to ensure a positive outcome. We are on the right track now as we have been from the start, but let's not spoil everything that we've come to achieve with hasty decisions.

I said this about the focus of PGE ages ago when it was unstickied from the General Forums and it got talked about. Ignoring the target being PGE, the same could be said in a way towards SMBX.ORG. Basically, incorporating more than just one or two things, broaden the spectrum and allowing for more diversity is nearly the only way to have a forum, program whatever survive in today's society. To survive one must first adapt and evolve to suit the situation.

A good example would be Nintendoverse, formerly SMBX Empire, they generalized the forum and brought a lot more traffic to the site, which previously towards the end of SMBX Empire, the forums were basically dead in comparison to what they used to be. Now I'm not saying throw SMBX out the window here and just go general gaming like Nintendoverse, but a little diversity can go a long way in the end.

SilverDeoxys563 · Postby **SilverDeoxys563** » Tue Mar 31, 2015 2:52 am

Squishy Rex wrote:If this engine/editor will be capable of so much more than just Mario alone then, let's focus on the bigger picture instead of one or two communities, namely SMBX.org and Talkhaus. The focus point of this project should be on everything that it will be able to do and communities that can benefit from this like RPGMaker, MFGG, hell maybe even the Sonic/Metroid/Kirby? communities.

Oh crap yes I SERIOUSLY want to see it do Metroid stuff. It must happen eventually. Heck there's a LOT of potential for PGE simply because of the way Wohlstand has pulled it off.

Danny · Postby **Danny** » Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:21 am

I mean this with all honesty and not in a mean-spirited manner like some people are very sensitive to, but Joey seems very stuck in the past when dealing with things and how things should be run, I think this has been said on more than one occasion back last year, maybe before that but I probably wasn't paying attention.

General gaming focus would be pretty great, but I think that if we were to do that, as much as I would like it and I think a lot of other people would like it, a lot would have to be done with the current state of this community first, specifically fixes around the forum such as fully ridding of the spambots and upgrading the board software. This also brings us right back around in a circle to the inactive staff and that would have to be fixed, either by wiping the slate clean and hiring an entirely new staff team, or bulking on a few extra members to cover additional timezones and different topics.

Postby **Shadow Yoshi** » Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:14 am

Believe me, the thought has crossed my mind of transitioning this place away from SMBX, but it's not something that will be done overnight. I'm more concerned with making a stable home for SMBX first. Hopefully we can all work together and get that done this summer or something.

We're well overdue for RPs, of course. We just need more things that can pull this community together. Mafia has worked really well for this purpose.

(we're not going to overhaul the staff team)

Mable · Postby **Mable** » Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:15 am

Well, i for my part have been inactive for now since i gotta work half the day and im the end, i just idle on the chat where nothing happens anyway expect people ranting on eachother, they mostly just do shit like arguing and thats nothing intresting for me. Same here i think half of the posts i read now on this forum are completly idiotic or just pointless.

The way the users also act is incredible. You say one thing and they jump on you, call you things. You even get to shut up if you have proven someone wrong.
Nobody really nobody wants to be in a forum where people fight.

Postby **DarkMatt** » Tue Mar 31, 2015 2:14 pm

Squishy Rex wrote:I said this about the focus of PGE ages ago when it was unstickied from the General Forums and it got talked about. Ignoring the target being PGE, the same could be said in a way towards SMBX.ORG. Basically, incorporating more than just one or two things, broaden the spectrum and allowing for more diversity is nearly the only way to have a forum, program whatever survive in today's society. To survive one must first adapt and evolve to suit the situation.

Right on target.

I think my problem right now is I'm currently not terribly involved in forum development and, neither is anyone else really. It's mostly because we're all waiting on the forum upgrade and that's up in the air. I'd love to say we're working on it, but I don't like lying to you guys. Course, if we all had infinite free time to burn this wouldn't be a problem, but I've said this before and I'll say this again, we kind of have the vices of life to deal with now.

Wohlstand · Postby **Wohlstand** » Tue Mar 31, 2015 5:15 pm

PGE created firstly to save SMBX community [which was my first idea of PGE].
Why PGE is universal platform engine which allows you creating independent to Mario games?
It's an important part of special strategy which protects SMBX stuff from destroying by any law issues [Great thanks to Talkhaus for idea of SMBX usage for a non-Mario games!], because engine will be independent to copyright stuff and can continue life. [SMBX stuff by anyway will live anyway even after official removing (people which downloaded than stuff by anyway will hold it and will continue it's progress)].
Engine is a HEART of SMBX which dead when Redigit abounded it: closed source is an "timer bomb" for any software which can exploded in any random time and destroy everything.

PGE is most important thing for SMBX community, therefore I ask to stick my topic about it. SMBX community will die anyway if we will sit on the same place and will don't go forward.

P.S. Any forum games like "Mafia" are masks over real problems which we SHOULD solve ANYWAY.
People by anyway looking for a new interest things, and siting on the same place are boring, therefore some old members abounding this community and SMBX because are no new REAL things made for it. There are abounding to find a new interest adventures in Internet. By anyway we are grading UP: any child will anyway stay an teenager, and later adult, and when old... you SHOULD understand it

Postby **DarkMatt** » Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:57 pm

I'll add another question, what other things CAN we do as a community? And once again, Mafia does not count.

Showing an interest in other Nintendo stuff is a step in the right direction, but I think we need a big tying activity that can stand the test of time. SMBX is dead and its revival is slow coming. (Rest assured though, it is moving forward.) Being a community dedicated to SMBX means that it's gonna be slow-going, and people are going to stop caring due to how slow it goes.

SMetoid99 · Postby **SMetoid99** » Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:06 pm

As a matter of fact, why isn't PGE stickeyd or have a subforum, I mean it's only a brand new editor that will be 100x better than the SMBX we have now, and more than likely better than any new version of SMBX were it continued offically.
It baffles the mind to why it isn't.
After all, isn't a new editor the one thing the community has demanded for basically half a decade ever since SMBX was discontinued in 2010?

Postby **DarkMatt** » Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:05 pm

Because it's still in development, one, and two, this forum supports VSMBX, another folly in bringing forth an alternative SMBX.

At least, that's what the answer was months ago. It probably still stands.

Wohlstand · Postby **Wohlstand** » Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:50 pm

DarkMatt wrote:Because it's still in development, one, and two, this forum supports VSMBX, another folly in bringing forth an alternative SMBX.

At least, that's what the answer was months ago. It probably still stands.

By anyway it is not compatible with SMBX64 Standard, I.e. it can't work with SMBX files natively, so the porting of old SMBX stuff is required. By anyway it in devekopment too.
PGE has completed Editor part which fully compatible with SMBX, so, it is useful now (for usage with SMBX). Even while engine part in development state. The compatibility is a strategically important thing, therefore I and my friends are made research of SMBX tech stuff to create SMBX64 standard documentation and absolute specification of SMBX file formats.

I understand if official stuff member made his built and therefore his built "officially supports by SMBX forums".
PGE Officially supported even by Talkhaus and by Raocow!

It's not a competition of PGE vs VSMBX, C++ vs .NET, Windows vs Unix-like,etc. and I think both projects should be on same level together (by anyway, VSMBX has another purposes and concept, and I don't want competition, by anyway I share my research works to others and anybody can use them for any purposes)

Postby **Shadow Yoshi** » Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:52 pm

Wohlstand, believe me, I respect the work that you do and my decisions (which still stand) to not officially support PGE here at the moment are nothing personal against you.

The thing is, at the end of the day, we're all people. Sooner or later (and this happened to me a while ago) we lose interest in what brought us together, and there's nothing wrong with that. While we do get an influx of new members due to SMBX, that isn't what's keeping the old members here. We need things to keep the community together - not necessarily keep it relevant to SMBX.

I would much rather have a smaller community with people that have stuck around as opposed to a larger community with members that cycle in relation to their interest level in SMBX.

Mable · Postby **Mable** » Wed Apr 01, 2015 6:30 am

We really should stick on other stuff. Like Darkmatt said smbx is dead and people.have to deal with it. Only vsmbx and pge, in which pge can be used for new things and isn't sticked to one franchise.

There are far more things then only mario. I mean since 2009 this all was only based on Mario and nothing else.
Which kinda gets boring aftwr such a long time since it's dead and smbx won't be back.