M16: The Best of Both Worlds - MAFIA VICTORY

Choco · Postby **Choco** » Fri Feb 13, 2015 7:19 pm

Choco wrote:Sorry, I was at school.

Not the doublevoter.

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underFlo · Postby **underFlo** » Fri Feb 13, 2015 7:24 pm

I did miss it, but good to know we have confirmation now.

Mivixion · Postby **Mivixion** » Fri Feb 13, 2015 7:30 pm

OK, I read the whole thread and nothing significant has happened since ZM claimed doublevoter. We can more-or-less confirm that he's telling the truth due to the lack of counterclaims. I do have something I want to address:

I've seen a few people saying that something is going to happen because it can happen. This is a commonly-used mafia tactic. Many mafiosos will say that something is going to happen in order to cause confusion or make another player seem suspicious. A good town player will state the possible, but they will only listen to the plausible. This is a very important factor in determining who's good and who's not. If a player is constantly pointing out the possible, they deserve to be questioned. It's the probable that should be taken into account. While a desperate town player could employ this tactic to save himself, it's much more likely to be used by savvy mafiosos early in the day than desperate town late in the day.

Mivixion · Postby **Mivixion** » Fri Feb 13, 2015 7:31 pm

Mivixion wrote:This is a commonly-used mafia tactic.

When I said this, I meant by the mafiosos, not the game itself***

underFlo · Postby **underFlo** » Fri Feb 13, 2015 7:37 pm

Mivixion wrote:OK, I read the whole thread and nothing significant has happened since ZM claimed doublevoter. We can more-or-less confirm that he's telling the truth due to the lack of counterclaims. I do have something I want to address:

I've seen a few people saying that something is going to happen because it can happen. This is a commonly-used mafia tactic. Many mafiosos will say that something is going to happen in order to cause confusion or make another player seem suspicious. A good town player will state the possible, but they will only listen to the plausible. This is a very important factor in determining who's good and who's not. If a player is constantly pointing out the possible, they deserve to be questioned. It's the probable that should be taken into account. While a desperate town player could employ this tactic to save himself, it's much more likely to be used by savvy mafiosos early in the day than desperate town late in the day.

At the time I did question ZM's believability, we were still missing confirmation from over half the people. It still was probable that the real DV hasn't gotten online by then. Besides, I never said that he was Mafia or something, I was just pointing out a possibility, one that is fairly improbable. Mafia is about assuming the worst except it's incredibly unlikely. Ofc the real DV might have hidden himself all this time, but that'd be unlikely. Everyone posted since then now, so it's safe to say he's legit.

Also, as you should know, I always play doubtfully, so you can't really use that ad an argument. Except it's not even targeted towards me, which'd be surprising since I seem to be considered fairly pessimistic by most.

Mivixion · Postby **Mivixion** » Fri Feb 13, 2015 7:47 pm

Was directed towards everyone.

BlimpFruit · Postby **BlimpFruit** » Fri Feb 13, 2015 8:12 pm

I think I'd just like to request that the Doctor protect ZM tonight, if he hasn't already chosen someone to protect, because he's probably the most likely target tonight.

Zeldamaster12 · Postby **Zeldamaster12** » Fri Feb 13, 2015 8:39 pm

That's actually a pretty good idea. Wanna know what Joey thinks.

Mivixion · Postby **Mivixion** » Fri Feb 13, 2015 8:54 pm

It's essentially WIFOM. The Mafia may go for a "safe" kill (someone who is sure not to be doc'd) or they may go for the alliance leader (ZM) because it will break the alliance.

Postby **Shadow Yoshi** » Fri Feb 13, 2015 8:54 pm

Yeah, protecting ZM sounds like a good idea. The last thing we want right now is for ZM to be gone, because then we lose all confirmed contact with the rest of the specials.

MacheTheFerret · Postby **MacheTheFerret** » Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:15 pm

Now that Choco's responded my conspiracy's logic goes right out the window.
Also, can Pseudo-Dino just end the night already? I think it's been long enough.

Sevennights · Postby **Sevennights** » Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:26 pm

I think you missed some people with counter claims or you got pms instead.
Not a Dv though...
Some may say they are that but they many not be that. Like saying doctor when mafia. Or townie when sheriff. Either way the plan will fail if one of the two partys try to kill zm or if the mafia/sk kills the doctor on night (?). Now i do not know what wull happen, but it seems like some people might have lied to zm or people lied about thier roles. It seems likely because, well mafia plays dirty... sometimes... and if they get your role and get people knocked down then we, town may lose, who ever is town at the time.

Mivixion · Postby **Mivixion** » Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:29 pm

Bloodedge, your logic makes no sense. You're insisting the possible rather than the probable, which is a common bad guy tactic.
The sheriff is not going to claim townie to another confirmed town member. It wouldn't make any sense. Likewise, the Mafia wouldn't claim doctor knowing that the real doctor is also going to claim (which would get the Mafia member lynched).
You're just being paranoid at this point.

Sevennights · Postby **Sevennights** » Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:38 pm

Mivixion wrote: which is a common bad guy tactic.

which is a common bad guy tactic

Ok then... that may be true but i am not a bad guy here.

About everything else above of ehat you said, it may be possible that it could happen, bit not really, but the thing is, is that this.

You're just being paranoid at this point.

Yes i am... i think a bit to paranoid i am. Maube it is because of today and tomorrow irl problems, i am really paranoid with us failing with this plan. Sorry...

Mivixion · Postby **Mivixion** » Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:39 pm

Put more faith in the plan. It's too early to make assumptions, but you're being a little shifty.

Mivixion · Postby **Mivixion** » Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:40 pm

The phase is ending as we speak if my guess is correct.

Sevennights · Postby **Sevennights** » Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:43 pm

Mivixion wrote:Put more faith in the plan. It's too early to make assumptions, but you're being a little shifty.

I see some part of it working but really it can fail any night or day which makes me paranoid, and when i am paranoid, i am not logical.

Postby **Julia Pseudo** » Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:43 pm

Sure sure sure, I'll end the night early since nothing's happening and this is Night 1.

NIGHT 1 has ended!

GMarinaX was walking down the street, minding her own business. Unfortunately, a sniper was hiding behind a fence and the sniper shot her in the head.
GMarinaX has died!

Nickname was staying up late playing Professor Layton when someone rose up behind him and hit his head with a brick.
Nickname has died!

It is now DAY 1! Day 1 will end at 8:00 PM PST, February 14, or earlier if an insta-lynch takes place.

Mivixion · Postby **Mivixion** » Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:44 pm

well this ain't a game of silver platters or a roll of the dice, it's a game of strategy mate

Anyway, it seems we lost a Mafioso (yay) and a Special (nay)