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Re: M20: The Ladder of Success (Day 1)
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 4:40 pm
by Zeldamaster12
Uh what. That's literally the only time I've had to moderate in the game so far, and it was to get you to stop caps raging. The one before was me stating why the Vigi wouldn't kill night 1, and the one before that was my first post in the game thread. So actually back up your statements before you say them kthxbai
Re: M20: The Ladder of Success (Day 1)
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 4:45 pm
by Zeldamaster12
By the way could you please change your attitude? You caps raged at RoundPiplup just because he had a misunderstanding of the game, and after looking in that log, you called him stupid which is just plain rude. This is only his second game, you can't expect him to be an expert or anything.
Also, you claimed that I haven't contributed to the game at all, and I've done nothing but moderated the entire game.
Re: M20: The Ladder of Success (Day 1)
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 4:55 pm
by underFlo
Zeldamaster12 wrote:By the way could you please change your attitude? You caps raged at RoundPiplup just because he had a misunderstanding of the game, and after looking in that log, you called him stupid which is just plain rude. This is only his second game, you can't expect him to be an expert or anything.
Also, you claimed that I haven't contributed to the game at all, and I've done nothing but moderated the entire game.
I was mostly raging bc even after mutliple people telling him he's wrong and me even giving proof, all in a civil manner, he still went on with saying the Mafia didn't kill. And then he continued to be all sassy. I'm not expecting anyone to be an expert, but I do however expect them to have a grasp of the basic concept of Mafia.
Also, I was referring to actual contribution. The vigi not been killing has already been pretty much established, and well, your other post was just moderating and reinstating the basic concept of Mafia. Not really what I'd call "contributing". You may have been active, but not actually contributing anything. Further dodging any actual contribution and instead just calling me out, be it rightful or not, it doesn't matter since it has nothing to do with the game, isn't really the kind of activity appreciated in a game of Mafia, especially since you obviously do have the time to make posts.
Re: M20: The Ladder of Success (Day 1)
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 4:58 pm
by underFlo
Also, I'd want everyone who's able to, especially ZM since he's about the only one atm who's online, to join #smbxgames so we might discuss some things.
Re: M20: The Ladder of Success (Day 1)
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 4:59 pm
by underFlo
Ofc everyone else including RoundPiplup and especially glitch4, who's viewing this thread and from whom I wanna see more, can feel free to join the irc too. I was just picking ZM in special since he's been the most active w/o really contributing.
Re: M20: The Ladder of Success (Day 1)
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 5:01 pm
by Zeldamaster12
I mean, I don't really have any leads, same with a lot of people. It's only Night 1, you can't expect everyone to automatically be super active. I have time to post, yes, but that doesn't mean I have to post. If I don't have any leads, why would I post?
Also, your general attitude currently isn't appreciated in Mafia either. I don't want to see anymore caps raging or flaming from anyone.
Re: M20: The Ladder of Success (Day 1)
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 5:07 pm
by underFlo
Zeldamaster12 wrote:I mean, I don't really have any leads, same with a lot of people. It's only Night 1, you can't expect everyone to automatically be super active. I have time to post, yes, but that doesn't mean I have to post. If I don't have any leads, why would I post?
Also, your general attitude currently isn't appreciated in Mafia either. I don't want to see anymore caps raging or flaming from anyone.
Ofc I'm not expecting everyone to be super active and useful on N1, but how are we supposed to get solid leads if no one posts? I mean your posts apparently contributed nothing, but I still managed to get a lead on you. If everyone would just be like "I don't have leads I'm not gonna post", the only ones posting would be Blues that got leads. That wouldn't be fun either, would it?
Again, I want everyone to at least give some opinion on the game. Even if those aren't the most accurate or correct ones, it still enables people to get leads on you. If you, however, continue to dodge such requests, I can't help but think of you as less likely to be town. After all, a townie has nothing to lose if someone gets a lead on him.
Re: M20: The Ladder of Success (Day 1)
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 5:11 pm
by Julia Pseudo
Yes OK Nickname please do calm down.
Also as a game master, I can tell you RoundPiplup that it is indeed assumed by default that the Mafia can kill one player each night unless stated otherwise. It's one of Mafia's central game mechanics.
I don't know who to vote for yet though.
Re: M20: The Ladder of Success (Day 1)
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 5:14 pm
by TLtimelord
Nickname: Bruh. The mafia (let's assume the death last night was by mafia and forget the small fucking chance the vigi decided to waste a kill on 8bit and the mafia's kill was protected by the doctor) put their kill on 8bit, who was protected by Choco, who sacrifices his own life to protect someone else. That's what the bodyguard does. Also, you are way too lynch happy just because RoundPiplup made a couple silly comments and HenryRichard so happens to not post every other time. Get ya head out of your ass and start finding some ACTUAL shit we can use on someone. And glitch4 never talks unless he needs to, innocent or not. Personally, I find quietness just fine until later in the game.
Also that entire two pages of you guys arguing whether or not the nightkill was vigi or not. Holy shit.
Let's try to be more productive in our debates, bros.
Re: M20: The Ladder of Success (Day 1)
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 5:17 pm
by RoundPiplup
Pseudo-dino wrote:Yes OK Nickname please do calm down.
Also as a game master, I can tell you RoundPiplup that it is indeed assumed by default that the Mafia can kill one player each night unless stated otherwise. It's one of Mafia's central game mechanics.
I don't know who to vote for yet though.
Thank you for the post. I just don't know the actual rules of mafia in SMBX.
Re: M20: The Ladder of Success (Day 1)
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 5:18 pm
by Zeldamaster12
How exactly did you get a lead on me? Just because I said that I didn't have any leads and that you can't expect everyone to be active on Night 1? You're really quick to point fingers at people.
Re: M20: The Ladder of Success (Day 1)
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 5:23 pm
by underFlo
TNTtimelord wrote:Nickname: Bruh. The mafia (let's assume the death last night was by mafia and forget the small fucking chance the vigi decided to waste a kill on 8bit and the mafia's kill was protected by the doctor) put their kill on 8bit, who was protected by Choco, who sacrifices his own life to protect someone else. That's what the bodyguard does. Also, you are way too lynch happy just because RoundPiplup made a couple silly comments and HenryRichard so happens to not post every other time. Get ya head out of your ass and start finding some ACTUAL shit we can use on someone. And glitch4 never talks unless he needs to, innocent or not. Personally, I find quietness just fine until later in the game.
Also that entire two pages of you guys arguing whether or not the nightkill was vigi or not. Holy shit.
Let's try to be more productive in our debates, bros.
What was the first sentence about? We alreay established just that.
I already corrected myself in thinking that RoundPiplup is actually probably not Mafia, unless he's executing an epic plan. Also, how are you accusing esepcially me of not finding a plan when no one else here seems to be interested in doing just that?
Also, I think the debate regarding Piplup was indeed productive, since I managed to get reads from both him and ZM in the process.
As for the lynch, I already had a lynch on RoundPiplup but didn't wanna keep it on him so I had to change it, since to my knowledge you can't retract votes. So I chose the next best target at the time.
Also, how exactly can you find quietness fine? If someone doesn't contribute anything he might just as well be dead and is a wasted spot. Not only doesn't he contribute anything to the game, but additionally, you can't get any reads off him either and have to rely on reports from Blues. Mafia lives from activity, and what we have atm is the polar opposite of that.
I mean at least Pseudo actually gave his opinion on the game, even if it was just not being sure just now. That's at least something, while you just repeated what we already established.
Re: M20: The Ladder of Success (Day 1)
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 5:27 pm
by Zeldamaster12
I like how you completely avoided my post.
I'm going to say this once more: It's only Night 1. You can't expect a bunch of leads from everyone along with a bunch of activity. It's just the beginning of the game: chill out.
Re: M20: The Ladder of Success (Day 1)
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 5:29 pm
by underFlo
Zeldamaster12 wrote:How exactly did you get a lead on me? Just because I said that I didn't have any leads and that you can't expect everyone to be active on Night 1? You're really quick to point fingers at people.
It's not like that's the first time you play Mafia with me, I'm generally quick to get first reads off people. The first impression was Mafia since you seemed to be dodging contribution, but that's just that: A first impression. Stuff like that is really only pointing fingers at people and nothing more, and you need quite a bit of these first impressions to get a lynch or something like that. It's just that these small things are all we have atm.
Also, TNT, how come you defend glitch4 for wasting a slot in the game when I am always quick to get first impressions of people? You should be active as often as life allows you to, and if glitch4 is online and stuff, I expect him to contribute at least something. I don't really see how inactivity is more excusable than trying to move this game forward.
Re: M20: The Ladder of Success (Day 1)
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 5:30 pm
by underFlo
Zeldamaster12 wrote:I like how you completely avoided my post.
I'm going to say this once more: It's only Night 1. You can't expect a bunch of leads from everyone along with a bunch of activity. It's just the beginning of the game: chill out.
Calm down, I was just writing a reply.
I get that it's Night 1 and we can't expect super activity, but I still feel like just taking that as a fact doesn't help either. Just doing nothing won't help the game progress. As I said, Mafia lives off activity, and even posts posted on Night 1 can still be useful later in the game.
Re: M20: The Ladder of Success (Day 1)
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 5:31 pm
by MacheTheFerret
Haven't exactly posted much since the game's began, but I'd like to point out my thoughts on this;
Zeldamaster12 wrote:How exactly did you get a lead on me? Just because I said that I didn't have any leads and that you can't expect everyone to be active on Night 1? You're really quick to point fingers at people.
It is definitely shady that Nickname would be quick to judge this early in the game. That could just be Nickname though, but we shouldn't take any chances.
I say we vote off
Nickname.
In a non-game sort of side-post, Nickname, why don't you settle your arguments in PMs? You're really taking up pages.
Re: M20: The Ladder of Success (Day 1)
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 5:32 pm
by Zeldamaster12
How was I avoiding contribution lol
Re: M20: The Ladder of Success (Day 1)
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 5:32 pm
by TLtimelord
Why waste a lynch on a quiet person?
Re: M20: The Ladder of Success (Day 1)
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 5:34 pm
by underFlo
PaperPlayerX wrote:Haven't exactly posted much since the game's began, but I'd like to point out my thoughts on this;
Zeldamaster12 wrote:How exactly did you get a lead on me? Just because I said that I didn't have any leads and that you can't expect everyone to be active on Night 1? You're really quick to point fingers at people.
It is definitely shady that Nickname would be quick to judge this early in the game. That could just be Nickname though, but we shouldn't take any chances.
I say we vote off
Nickname.
In a non-game sort of side-post, Nickname, why don't you settle your arguments in PMs? You're really taking up pages.
Because I feel like these arguments apply to everyone.
Also, I don't see how trying to advance the game is suspicious. All of these small suspicions could be just as well completely wrong. But at least we're getting somewhere with them. These small suspicions may all just be really small, but they are at least bringing us somewhere.
Re: M20: The Ladder of Success (Day 1)
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 5:37 pm
by underFlo
Zeldamaster12 wrote:How was I avoiding contribution lol
Whenever I was asking you to contribute you were just saying that it's N1 and it should be expected, while on the irc you showed some signs of contribution:
<Zeldamaster12> ok so
<Zeldamaster12> like i said, i dont have any leads
<Nickname> still
<Nickname> theres gotta be something
<Zeldamaster12> roundpiplup is really the only slight lead but i think he was just misunderstanding the game
<Nickname> actually, as I said, I feel like it actually makes him more towny
<Nickname> or at least non mafia-y
<Zeldamaster12> he could be tp tho
<Zeldamaster12> but thats a small chance
<Nickname> yeah i really dont know who tp is
<Nickname> *who is tp
<Nickname> wtf
<zlakergirl357> Vote Marina bc bias
<Marina> IM NOT EVEN IN THE GAME
<Marina> JESUS
<zlakergirl357> ik
<zlakergirl357> that's why it's bias xD
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<Zeldamaster12_> phone crashed -.-
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<Zeldamaster12_> anyways who should we vote for
<Nickname> i really don't know
<Nickname> If anyone I'd vote HenryRichard or glitch4 who are both lurking
<Nickname> especially glitch4 was online some time ago and still didn't do anything
Even this would be enough to get actual leads on tbh.
Also TNT, a person that doesn't contribute could just as well be dead, gameplay-wise. Also, quiet ppl are either mafia who want to stay hidden or greens that don't wanna contribute. Blues are rarely inactive from my experience.