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Re: M20: The Ladder of Success (Day 1)

Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 3:40 pm
by underFlo
RoundPiplup wrote:Read the roles, it's not possible for mafia in this game to shoot someone at night 1
How is it not possible for them?

Re: M20: The Ladder of Success (Day 1)

Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 3:47 pm
by RoundPiplup
Consort - May distract a player each night and prevent his/her role from working.
- - - - - Upgrades upon successfully blocking two blue players abilities.
- - - - - Assassin - May alternatively kill one player independent of the mafia's kill each night.
Janitor - May clean a player each night and remove that player's color for one night.
- - - - - Upgrades after 3 successful cleanings.
- - - - - Painter - May alternatively paint a player any color for one night.
Spy - May watch a player to see who the target player visits or who visits the targeted player that night (if anyone).
- - - - - Upgrades after 3 successful spy attempts.
- - - - - Agent - May alternatively inspect a player to learn of his/her
Also, the neutral killer has a 2 day/night cycle. Mafia gains a killing ability possibly at night 3(if not, later than night 3)

Re: M20: The Ladder of Success (Day 1)

Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 3:49 pm
by underFlo
RoundPiplup wrote:
Consort - May distract a player each night and prevent his/her role from working.
- - - - - Upgrades upon successfully blocking two blue players abilities.
- - - - - Assassin - May alternatively kill one player independent of the mafia's kill each night.
Janitor - May clean a player each night and remove that player's color for one night.
- - - - - Upgrades after 3 successful cleanings.
- - - - - Painter - May alternatively paint a player any color for one night.
Spy - May watch a player to see who the target player visits or who visits the targeted player that night (if anyone).
- - - - - Upgrades after 3 successful spy attempts.
- - - - - Agent - May alternatively inspect a player to learn of his/her
Also, the neutral killer has a 2 day/night cycle. Mafia gains a killing ability possibly at night 3(if not, later than night 3)
How does that prove your point? These are all just extra abilities the individual players have additionally to the Mafia's normal kill power.

I bolded the part that even proves that the Mafia has an independent kill.

Re: M20: The Ladder of Success (Day 1)

Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 3:51 pm
by RudeGuy
The mafia always kill every night, RoundPiplup, since it is so known, it doesn't need to be written on every game.
Also I don't have any leads, since it's day 1, but RoundPiplup seems to act kinda suspicious like someone else said before.

Re: M20: The Ladder of Success (Day 1)

Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 3:52 pm
by RoundPiplup
Those additional abilities can only be used when that player gets upgraded. (Block 2 blue players = Upgrade to alternitively kill someone)

Re: M20: The Ladder of Success (Day 1)

Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 3:53 pm
by RudeGuy
RoundPiplup wrote:Those additional abilities can only be used when that player gets upgraded. (Block 2 blue players = Upgrade to alternitively kill someone)
So? The mafia can still kill every night.

Re: M20: The Ladder of Success (Day 1)

Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 3:55 pm
by RoundPiplup
Not in this game is every night. If no one dies in night 2 by bullets, then it's confirmed that the vig shot someone.

Re: M20: The Ladder of Success (Day 1)

Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 3:57 pm
by RudeGuy
RoundPiplup wrote:Not in this game is every night. If no one dies in night 2 by bullets, then it's confirmed that the vig shot someone.
...Now what are you even talking about.

Re: M20: The Ladder of Success (Day 1)

Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 4:00 pm
by RoundPiplup
You know, a bomb is going to erupt at night 2. Someone is going to die.

Re: M20: The Ladder of Success (Day 1)

Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 4:08 pm
by underFlo
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME

WHERE DOES IT SAY THE MAFIA CAN'T KILL EVERY NIGHT

THE CONSORT'S UPGRADED ROLE EVEN MENTIONS THAT IT'S INDEPENDENT FROM THE NORMAL KILL

WTF ARE YOU ON ROUNDPIPLUP

Re: M20: The Ladder of Success (Day 1)

Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 4:13 pm
by underFlo
Wait a sec no

lets not lynch RoundPiplup

He may be the single stupidest player ever, but think about it

If he was Mafia, he'd know they can kill (except of course he's so excluded from their plans that he doesn't even know about their killing, but I doubt that).

So that means he isn't Mafia since he's so dead set that they can't kill for whatever reason.

So I'll put a safety on HenryRichard instead bc I don't think I've seen anything meaningful from him so far,

Re: M20: The Ladder of Success (Day 1)

Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 4:21 pm
by RoundPiplup
Nickname wrote:ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME

WHERE DOES IT SAY THE MAFIA CAN'T KILL EVERY NIGHT

THE CONSORT'S UPGRADED ROLE EVEN MENTIONS THAT IT'S INDEPENDENT FROM THE NORMAL KILL

WTF ARE YOU ON ROUNDPIPLUP
To help them survive another night?

Re: M20: The Ladder of Success (Day 1)

Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 4:22 pm
by underFlo
RoundPiplup wrote:
Nickname wrote:ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME

WHERE DOES IT SAY THE MAFIA CAN'T KILL EVERY NIGHT

THE CONSORT'S UPGRADED ROLE EVEN MENTIONS THAT IT'S INDEPENDENT FROM THE NORMAL KILL

WTF ARE YOU ON ROUNDPIPLUP
To help them survive another night?
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT

THE MAFIA CAN KILL LIKE IN EVERY FUCKING OTHER GAME

WHAT DOES WHAT YOU JUST SAID HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING

I'M TEMPTED TO REVOTE YOU AGAIN JUST TO SHUT YOU UP

Re: M20: The Ladder of Success (Day 1)

Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 4:24 pm
by RoundPiplup
I like your caps though

Re: M20: The Ladder of Success (Day 1)

Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 4:24 pm
by underFlo
RoundPiplup wrote:I like your caps though
I like how you avoid the topic though

Re: M20: The Ladder of Success (Day 1)

Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 4:26 pm
by RoundPiplup
Nickname wrote:
RoundPiplup wrote:I like your caps though
I like how you avoid the topic though
I like how you quote my text though.

Re: M20: The Ladder of Success (Day 1)

Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 4:26 pm
by underFlo
RoundPiplup wrote:
Nickname wrote:
RoundPiplup wrote:I like your caps though
I like how you avoid the topic though
I like how you quote my text though.
Can you please actually participate

Re: M20: The Ladder of Success (Day 1)

Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 4:28 pm
by RoundPiplup
Ok, either I didn't read something that allows mafia to kill someone every night or it's just that mafia always were able to kill at nights in all of those mafia games you played.

Re: M20: The Ladder of Success (Day 1)

Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 4:29 pm
by Zeldamaster12
Nickname: Stop caps raging.

RoundPiplup: Mafia can kill every night, please just stop arguing that they can't.

Re: M20: The Ladder of Success (Day 1)

Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 4:37 pm
by underFlo
Zeldamaster12 wrote:Nickname: Stop caps raging.
RoundPiplup deserved that tho.

So, it seems like he really didn't know the Mafia can normally kill. That makes him fairly unlikely to be Mafia, unless of course he's fucking with us.

So, who else is suspicious for any one of you?

Btw, log with Waddle Derp:
Spoiler: show
* WaddleDerp (~webchat@ip5450a8bc.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl) has joined
<WaddleDerp> Hi
<Nickname> yo
<Nickname> so, what's your opinion on the game atm?
<Nickname> *referring to Mafia
<WaddleDerp> ah
<Nickname> so?
<WaddleDerp> For some odd reason I don't trust RoundPiplup, not like I have any sort of evidence to back this up or anything. not even theories. I just don't trust the guy
<Nickname> hmm
<Nickname> but what about the fact that the Mafia probably did kill?
<Nickname> That'd make Piplup's behavior seem illogical for a Mafia
<WaddleDerp> We have a smart vigilante, thats for sure
<Nickname> unless he's fucking with us
<Nickname> Why?
<WaddleDerp> he didn't recklessly kill night 1
<Nickname> i mean that's p much common sense
<WaddleDerp> people often lack common sense
<Nickname> so you agree that the vigi probably didn't kill anyone that night?
<WaddleDerp> yes
<Nickname> so, that means that the Mafia did kill someone
<Nickname> then how would Piplup being Mafia fit in with that?
<WaddleDerp> As I said, I really hadn't thougt it through. it's just something I thought
<Nickname> I mean, he could still be 3P
<Nickname> But I mean idk I would lynch him just to get rid of him
<Nickname> he's really uncooperative
<Nickname> and stupid
<WaddleDerp> I guess. We'll only find out if the 3P is active night 3
<Nickname> So
<Nickname> What other suspicions do you have, WaddleDerp?
<WaddleDerp> That's basically it. I'm just a townie
<Nickname> alright
<WaddleDerp> I don't think you'd like to share any info you've gotten?
<WaddleDerp> I gotta go mate
<WaddleDerp> I'll cya around
<WaddleDerp> bye
<Nickname> I haven't gotten any info so far, no
nothing groundbreaking, just felt like bringing in some different opinions.

Btw Zeldamaster12, I'd like to see actual input from you. So far you've only really moderated, which is fine, but I feel like you should contribute something, since we're p much w/o leads atm.