M20: The Ladder of Success (Post-game PSum)

underFlo · Postby **underFlo** » Fri May 08, 2015 3:40 pm

RoundPiplup wrote:Read the roles, it's not possible for mafia in this game to shoot someone at night 1

How is it not possible for them?

RoundPiplup · Postby **RoundPiplup** » Fri May 08, 2015 3:47 pm

Consort - May distract a player each night and prevent his/her role from working.
- - - - - Upgrades upon successfully blocking two blue players abilities.
- - - - - Assassin - May alternatively kill one player independent of the mafia's kill each night.
Janitor - May clean a player each night and remove that player's color for one night.
- - - - - Upgrades after 3 successful cleanings.
- - - - - Painter - May alternatively paint a player any color for one night.
Spy - May watch a player to see who the target player visits or who visits the targeted player that night (if anyone).
- - - - - Upgrades after 3 successful spy attempts.
- - - - - Agent - May alternatively inspect a player to learn of his/her

Also, the neutral killer has a 2 day/night cycle. Mafia gains a killing ability possibly at night 3(if not, later than night 3)

underFlo · Postby **underFlo** » Fri May 08, 2015 3:49 pm

RoundPiplup wrote:
Consort - May distract a player each night and prevent his/her role from working.
- - - - - Upgrades upon successfully blocking two blue players abilities.
- - - - - Assassin - May alternatively kill one player independent of the mafia's kill each night.
Janitor - May clean a player each night and remove that player's color for one night.
- - - - - Upgrades after 3 successful cleanings.
- - - - - Painter - May alternatively paint a player any color for one night.
Spy - May watch a player to see who the target player visits or who visits the targeted player that night (if anyone).
- - - - - Upgrades after 3 successful spy attempts.
- - - - - Agent - May alternatively inspect a player to learn of his/her
Also, the neutral killer has a 2 day/night cycle. Mafia gains a killing ability possibly at night 3(if not, later than night 3)

How does that prove your point? These are all just extra abilities the individual players have additionally to the Mafia's normal kill power.

I bolded the part that even proves that the Mafia has an independent kill.

RudeGuy · Postby **RudeGuy** » Fri May 08, 2015 3:51 pm

The mafia always kill every night, RoundPiplup, since it is so known, it doesn't need to be written on every game.
Also I don't have any leads, since it's day 1, but RoundPiplup seems to act kinda suspicious like someone else said before.

RoundPiplup · Postby **RoundPiplup** » Fri May 08, 2015 3:52 pm

Those additional abilities can only be used when that player gets upgraded. (Block 2 blue players = Upgrade to alternitively kill someone)

RudeGuy · Postby **RudeGuy** » Fri May 08, 2015 3:53 pm

RoundPiplup wrote:Those additional abilities can only be used when that player gets upgraded. (Block 2 blue players = Upgrade to alternitively kill someone)

So? The mafia can still kill every night.

RoundPiplup · Postby **RoundPiplup** » Fri May 08, 2015 3:55 pm

Not in this game is every night. If no one dies in night 2 by bullets, then it's confirmed that the vig shot someone.

RudeGuy · Postby **RudeGuy** » Fri May 08, 2015 3:57 pm

RoundPiplup wrote:Not in this game is every night. If no one dies in night 2 by bullets, then it's confirmed that the vig shot someone.

...Now what are you even talking about.

RoundPiplup · Postby **RoundPiplup** » Fri May 08, 2015 4:00 pm

You know, a bomb is going to erupt at night 2. Someone is going to die.

underFlo · Postby **underFlo** » Fri May 08, 2015 4:08 pm

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME

WHERE DOES IT SAY THE MAFIA CAN'T KILL EVERY NIGHT

THE CONSORT'S UPGRADED ROLE EVEN MENTIONS THAT IT'S INDEPENDENT FROM THE NORMAL KILL

WTF ARE YOU ON ROUNDPIPLUP

underFlo · Postby **underFlo** » Fri May 08, 2015 4:13 pm

Wait a sec no

lets not lynch RoundPiplup

He may be the single stupidest player ever, but think about it

If he was Mafia, he'd know they can kill (except of course he's so excluded from their plans that he doesn't even know about their killing, but I doubt that).

So that means he isn't Mafia since he's so dead set that they can't kill for whatever reason.

So I'll put a safety on HenryRichard instead bc I don't think I've seen anything meaningful from him so far,

RoundPiplup · Postby **RoundPiplup** » Fri May 08, 2015 4:21 pm

Nickname wrote:ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME

WHERE DOES IT SAY THE MAFIA CAN'T KILL EVERY NIGHT

THE CONSORT'S UPGRADED ROLE EVEN MENTIONS THAT IT'S INDEPENDENT FROM THE NORMAL KILL

WTF ARE YOU ON ROUNDPIPLUP

To help them survive another night?

underFlo · Postby **underFlo** » Fri May 08, 2015 4:22 pm

RoundPiplup wrote:
Nickname wrote:ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME

WHERE DOES IT SAY THE MAFIA CAN'T KILL EVERY NIGHT

THE CONSORT'S UPGRADED ROLE EVEN MENTIONS THAT IT'S INDEPENDENT FROM THE NORMAL KILL

WTF ARE YOU ON ROUNDPIPLUP
To help them survive another night?

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT

THE MAFIA CAN KILL LIKE IN EVERY FUCKING OTHER GAME

WHAT DOES WHAT YOU JUST SAID HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING

I'M TEMPTED TO REVOTE YOU AGAIN JUST TO SHUT YOU UP

RoundPiplup · Postby **RoundPiplup** » Fri May 08, 2015 4:24 pm

I like your caps though

underFlo · Postby **underFlo** » Fri May 08, 2015 4:24 pm

RoundPiplup wrote:I like your caps though

I like how you avoid the topic though

RoundPiplup · Postby **RoundPiplup** » Fri May 08, 2015 4:26 pm

Nickname wrote:
RoundPiplup wrote:I like your caps though
I like how you avoid the topic though

I like how you quote my text though.

underFlo · Postby **underFlo** » Fri May 08, 2015 4:26 pm

RoundPiplup wrote:
Nickname wrote:
RoundPiplup wrote:I like your caps though
I like how you avoid the topic though
I like how you quote my text though.

Can you please actually participate

RoundPiplup · Postby **RoundPiplup** » Fri May 08, 2015 4:28 pm

Ok, either I didn't read something that allows mafia to kill someone every night or it's just that mafia always were able to kill at nights in all of those mafia games you played.

Zeldamaster12 · Postby **Zeldamaster12** » Fri May 08, 2015 4:29 pm

Nickname: Stop caps raging.

RoundPiplup: Mafia can kill every night, please just stop arguing that they can't.

underFlo · Postby **underFlo** » Fri May 08, 2015 4:37 pm

Zeldamaster12 wrote:Nickname: Stop caps raging.

RoundPiplup deserved that tho.

So, it seems like he really didn't know the Mafia can normally kill. That makes him fairly unlikely to be Mafia, unless of course he's fucking with us.

So, who else is suspicious for any one of you?

Btw, log with Waddle Derp:

Spoiler: show

nothing groundbreaking, just felt like bringing in some different opinions.

Btw Zeldamaster12, I'd like to see actual input from you. So far you've only really moderated, which is fine, but I feel like you should contribute something, since we're p much w/o leads atm.