M20: The Ladder of Success (Post-game PSum)

Postby **Julia Pseudo** » Mon May 11, 2015 12:01 am

Look, I don't know exactly what I can say to redeem myself, but I really am the lookout. I said something very stupid by trusting Zeldamaster, hopefully I can gain (or regain) you folks' trust again.

Nanaya · Postby **Nanaya** » Mon May 11, 2015 12:02 am

Dude one of the two of you i must kill, so pseudo prepare yourself!

Danny · Postby **Danny** » Mon May 11, 2015 12:06 am

Pseudo-dino wrote:Look, I don't know exactly what I can say to redeem myself, but I really am the lookout. I said something very stupid by trusting Zeldamaster, hopefully I can gain (or regain) you folks' trust again.

Now, here's this scenario.

Suppose my contact with the supposed Lookout is correct and Zeldamaster cardflips red, do we believe that he is the Miller based on the information we have that Bloodedge was roleblocked? If so, that confirms my contact is the actual Lookout, what does that make you?

How can we, based on the information you gave me/us, believe that you are the true Lookout? The information doesn't add up at all, and seems to defend Zeldamaster more than anything, yet you deny defending Zeldamaster.

Pseudo-dino wrote:PMing you this so that no one is implicated by the visits.
8bitmushroom wrote:
Pseudo-dino wrote:Er, I'm the lookout, actually. Not sure who contacted you but I'm pretty sure they're lying.
Right... You're the lookout, then? If you are, then who did you inspect last night and the night before, and who did they visit? If you were the lookout, would you give us some help on who you inspected during the night?
I watched HenryRichard on Night 1, and he didn't visit anyone. Safe to say he's a townie I suppose.

Last night I watched you. You visited Zeldamaster and were visited by glitch4.

You seem to be covering something up.

Postby **Julia Pseudo** » Mon May 11, 2015 12:09 am

^
What? I just didn't want to reveal that glitch4 was a possible blue (though that seems unlikely now, assuming you are a blue). HenryRichard really had no activity on Night 1 and the Night 2 info is true, as I suspect you're aware.

I was defending Zeldamaster before to be sure but that was pretty stupid. We have the other blues pretty much confirmed anyways.

Nanaya · Postby **Nanaya** » Mon May 11, 2015 12:11 am

Sake pm i got! Chanf e to join us!
And suspicious man!
I must kill you even if i die!

Glitch4 is confirm mafia!

Nanaya · Postby **Nanaya** » Mon May 11, 2015 12:12 am

Falling snow it has been 60 minutes!

FallingSnow · Postby **FallingSnow** » Mon May 11, 2015 12:13 am

Zeldamaster has been lynched!
Night 3 begins and will end around 11:59pm Eastern Time on May 11.

Nanaya · Postby **Nanaya** » Mon May 11, 2015 12:14 am

Fucking knew it! Time to die pseudo dino!

Danny · Postby **Danny** » Mon May 11, 2015 12:17 am

You say that it's safe to assume HenryRichard is townie, yet you don't seem certain of that. I won't go any further with that as I doubt it means anything and is just filler.

Also, if I visited Zeldamaster, what role do you propose I am, and what role do you propose glitch4 is?

Pseudo-dino wrote:^
What? I just didn't want to reveal that glitch4 was a possible blue (though that seems unlikely now, assuming you are a blue). HenryRichard really had no activity on Night 1 and the Night 2 info is true, as I suspect you're aware.

Firstly, if you revealed the information, we wouldn't have a clue who the blue role would be, and assuming the Mafia didn't play it smart and went and killed someone, it might be safe to assume that the other person is a Mafia.

Based on your information, you completely obscure the information I have. The information I have is that Zeldamaster visited Bloodedge, and Bloodedge was roleblocked that same night. With your information, you completely leave out any traces that Zeldamaster visited Bloodedge, and if Zeldamaster flips red, we can surely confirm that he was the one that roleblocked Bloodedge, and that means all the information you have is completely false, meaning you are not the Lookout and you are completely throwing us off.

Also, what would make me believe the information on Night 2 is true? I already have contact with the other supposed Lookout, and his information seems a little more believable than yours as it actually adds up.

I was defending Zeldamaster before to be sure but that was pretty stupid.

Was not expecting that excuse.

We have the other blues pretty much confirmed anyways.

We do?

Also apparently a lot happened while I was typing this so yeah. Zeldamaster flipped red. What do we have to say about this?

Danny · Postby **Danny** » Mon May 11, 2015 12:40 am

Though with some of Pseudo's information, I can suspect glitch4 of possibly being the Saboteur or a Mafia. I highly suspect Pseudo is the Spy. My other suspicions are PaperPlayerX, and I'm a little bit suspicious of HenryRichard.

I suggest everyone make suspicion lists now, along with your reasons and such.

Here's my suspicions list, really.

Pseudo-dino: Highly probable that he's a Mafia, possibly the Spy, considering he gave off false information in an attempt to throw us off, and he defended Zeldamaster up until he realized he was done for.
glitch4: While I'm taking Pseudo's information with a grain of salt, I suspect he may actually be the Saboteur, or a Mafia member. Because if Pseudo is a Mafia member, it's likely he may be the Spy. Not entirely sure on this.
PaperPlayerX: Sort of the same reasons as TNTtimelord, which he stated earlier.
HenryRichard: Not really all that suspicious of him, but Pseudo's false Lookout report said that he inspected HenryRichard, and he claims that he did nothing, so we should trust that he is a townie. That seems to be in defense of HenryRichard should we find him suspicious at any given time...

Danny · Postby **Danny** » Mon May 11, 2015 12:42 am

Also, could the Sheriff maybe contact me, that way I can introduce them to the Lookout and Vigilante?

MacheTheFerret · Postby **MacheTheFerret** » Mon May 11, 2015 8:16 am

I'm having a hard time understanding the massive jumble that occurred just before this post. First of all, what the hell did I do to earn suspicions? I'm really confused.

RudeGuy · Postby **RudeGuy** » Mon May 11, 2015 8:31 am

Uff, I always miss that part of the day where everyone starts lynching.

My only suspect is on Pseudo-dino: he claimed to be the lookout, meaning 8bit's lookout was lying. But 8bit's lookout was right, so he must be the real lookout, while Pseudo-dino can only be mafia.
Zeldamaster could've been the miller, though, so maybe Pseudo-dino was saying the truth. It's a very little chance, though.

Hyperme · Postby **Hyperme** » Mon May 11, 2015 9:32 am

Pseudo-dino wrote:I don't mean to be defending Zeldamaster; but Hyperme does seem slightly suspicious based on the pattern of kills as he described.

Wait how exactly am I suspicious?

Anyway ZM flipped red so 8bit probably has good information. Pseudo-dino is currently on my 'people to watch out for' spot for both defending Zeldamaster and agreeing with his kind of out of nowhere lynch vote. And also for saying I'm suspicious in the most vague way possible.

RudeGuy · Postby **RudeGuy** » Mon May 11, 2015 9:44 am

Hyperme wrote:Wait how exactly am I suspicious?

Zeldamaster12 wrote:I honestly think the Mafia might be inactive. And I know who to suspect, too, and that's Hyperme. Notice how he posted Night 1 (maybe Day 1, IDK, I'd have to go check), and there was a kill on Night 1. But, Night 2 did not have any kills, and Hyperme wasn't here for Night 2 either. It's not a big lead or anything, but it's something. Think about this before you go and lynch me.

It's probably a try from zeldamaster to make you suspicious, though.

Hyperme · Postby **Hyperme** » Mon May 11, 2015 11:08 am

I must of missed that. It looks to be a last chance 'oh man don't lynch me' from a Mafia, since thread activity and power activity don't always match.

Danny · Postby **Danny** » Mon May 11, 2015 11:41 am

RudeGuy07 wrote:Uff, I always miss that part of the day where everyone starts lynching.

My only suspect is on Pseudo-dino: he claimed to be the lookout, meaning 8bit's lookout was lying. But 8bit's lookout was right, so he must be the real lookout, while Pseudo-dino can only be mafia.
Zeldamaster could've been the miller, though, so maybe Pseudo-dino was saying the truth. It's a very little chance, though.

If he was the miller though, he wouldn't have been able to visit Bloodedge, and Bloodedge was roleblocked that night anyway, which would have had to have happened from a red. I really don't think Zeldamaster was the miller, the information just adds up too smoothly.

Danny · Postby **Danny** » Mon May 11, 2015 11:43 am

PaperPlayerX wrote:First of all, what the hell did I do to earn suspicions?

TNTtimelord wrote:Over on the other department with the killing last night, what I think we've all collected on that is that Between Bloodedge and Zeldamaster12, one is vigi and the other is a mafia. A safe and very abstract way to call out two potential mafias is if someone goes out of their way to defend someone. PPX is doing just that with ZM while Bloodedge is just kinda here desperately trying to hold his own. Oh and before I posted this, Pseudo is backing him up too.

RudeGuy · Postby **RudeGuy** » Mon May 11, 2015 12:56 pm

8bitmushroom wrote:If he was the miller though, he wouldn't have been able to visit Bloodedge, and Bloodedge was roleblocked that night anyway, which would have had to have happened from a red. I really don't think Zeldamaster was the miller, the information just adds up too smoothly.

Well, now that I think of, it's pretty much impossible that zeldamaster was the miller.
Anyway, Pseudo-dino is pretty much confirmed mafioso, I thinkwe should lynch him next day.

Danny · Postby **Danny** » Mon May 11, 2015 1:50 pm

RudeGuy07 wrote:Anyway, Pseudo-dino is pretty much confirmed mafioso, I thinkwe should lynch him next day.

Him or PaperPlayerX, those two are pretty much the only ones I suspect of being Mafia other than glitch4, who could be the Saboteur, or HenryRichard, who I slightly suspect only because Pseudo's fake Lookout report said that we should trust him because he's probably townie...