Community Poll Topic (New Poll!)

Postby **Shadow Yoshi** » Sun Jan 11, 2015 11:26 am

8bitmushroom wrote:
Joey wrote:Because if I can't trust them to be able to run the forums, why should I trust them to be able to run the IRC?
The IRC and the Forums are two different entities all together, though. You could trust people to run your forums while trusting other people to run the IRC. And besides, you're acting as if everyone is an outlaw and they can't be trusted to keep an eye on an IRC channel so it doesn't go up in flames.

That's not how I'm acting at all, and no, they are both part of one community.

Murphmario · Postby **Murphmario** » Sun Jan 11, 2015 11:27 am

Joey, update the Worlds and Graphics page please. It's important.

Also, would like to see more activity on the Wiki.

Postby **Shadow Yoshi** » Sun Jan 11, 2015 11:29 am

Murphmario wrote:Joey, update the Worlds and Graphics page please. It's important.

Also, would like to see more activity on the Wiki.

This topic is for dicussing issues that, like I said in the first post, are "poll-able". I think that the need for the updated pages and wiki is pretty much unanimous, at least for the former.

Mable · Postby **Mable** » Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:00 pm

Joey tbh you should put more trust into the members. Just bc they not staff doesn't mean you can't trust them on the irc. Hell if someone is abusing his op we just report it to you. It's time to give someone the chance even if he's not Staff and Pseudo won't be on the chat(implying he ever was)so he's out of it.

Danny · Postby **Danny** » Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:16 pm

Joey wrote:That's not how I'm acting at all,

Then why not hire operators that aren't already staff on this forum?

and no, they are both part of one community.

But they are run completely different. I never said they were separate communities, they're just different entities.

Kokorov · Postby **Kokorov** » Sun Jan 11, 2015 1:11 pm

Although I didn't really know about this forum existing until probably a month ago, I have to say, the forum is really top notch in just about every aspect! The staff seems friendly and their reputations positive, and layout of the site itself is awesome. That being said, I like the direction the forum is taking.

Postby **Julia Pseudo** » Sun Jan 11, 2015 1:17 pm

CaptainSyrup wrote:Joey tbh you should put more trust into the members. Just bc they not staff doesn't mean you can't trust them on the irc. Hell if someone is abusing his op we just report it to you. It's time to give someone the chance even if he's not Staff and Pseudo won't be on the chat(implying he ever was)so he's out of it.

I will be on the chat more now that I'm a staff member. Joey asked me to go on more. I don't have any aversion to IRC, I just never really think of going on. Trust me, you'll see more of me there.

Postby **Shadow Yoshi** » Sun Jan 11, 2015 1:59 pm

I also didn't promote Pseudo with the intention of fixing the IRC night problem (though if that ends up happening, great!).

EDIT: Speaking of which, can someone show me some logs of what goes on at night? Not only am I not there so I can't see it, but a lot of this stuff seems to happen specifically when I'm offline.

8bitmushroom wrote:Then why not hire operators that aren't already staff on this forum?

I never said I wasn't going to do this, 8bit. All I said was that if I'm going to hire them, they need to be someone who is qualified also for a forum staff position. That doesn't mean I'm going to promote them, it just means they need to have that level of qualification (or someone with the qualification level of a network staffer, e.g. Jason, Kottizen, etc.).

Danny · Postby **Danny** » Sun Jan 11, 2015 2:16 pm

Joey wrote:
8bitmushroom wrote:Then why not hire operators that aren't already staff on this forum?
I never said I wasn't going to do this, 8bit. All I said was that if I'm going to hire them, they need to be someone who is qualified also for a forum staff position. That doesn't mean I'm going to promote them, it just means they need to have that level of qualification (or someone with the qualification level of a network staffer, e.g. Jason, Kottizen, etc.).

I must have misinterpreted what you had actually meant or you need to reword what you had said. From what I had understood, you would only promote someone who is already a staff member on the forums. That's why I questioned why you would do that.

Postby **Shadow Yoshi** » Sun Jan 11, 2015 2:44 pm

Joey wrote:In my opinion, IRC operators need to be qualified to be staff members on the forums. I'm not opposed specifically to having operators that aren't staff on the forums (I already have that, actually), but they need to be someone I would want to have on the main staff.

FanofSMBX · Postby **FanofSMBX** » Sun Jan 11, 2015 8:13 pm

Dear Joey please stop telling people to improve their English unless they're actually like speaking in Spanish. In my opinion it doesn't matter if it's not the best.

Does everyone else agree or what

JupiHornet · Postby **JupiHornet** » Sun Jan 11, 2015 8:16 pm

FanofSMBX wrote:Dear Joey please stop telling people to improve their English unless they're actually like speaking in Spanish. In my opinion it doesn't matter if it's not the best.

Does everyone else agree or what

Seconding

FanofSMBX · Postby **FanofSMBX** » Sun Jan 11, 2015 8:21 pm

Oh yeah, I also don't want it to be a warnable offense to have bad grammar. I'd be fine with a staff member downrepping them every time though.

Choco · Postby **Choco** » Sun Jan 11, 2015 8:28 pm

FanofSMBX wrote:Oh yeah, I also don't want it to be a warnable offense to have bad grammar. I'd be fine with a staff member downrepping them every time though.

I second this. I don't think they're even trying to improve their English when we do nothing.

Mable · Postby **Mable** » Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:21 pm

FanofSMBX wrote:Oh yeah, I also don't want it to be a warnable offense to have bad grammar. I'd be fine with a staff member downrepping them every time though.

Thats not helpful. Downrepping someone bc of his grammar is just lame even for a staff. Not everyone is an native english grammar guy.

Postby **Shadow Yoshi** » Sun Jan 11, 2015 11:05 pm

The reputation system holds absolutely zero administrative or moderative weight.

The reason why I disapprove of bad English is because I feel it hurts the presentability of the forum. I'm not really fond of going to other forums and seeing poorly-written posts (due to bad English, general immaturity, or whatever), and I don't want that here. I know that users with bad English mean well (or at least, their English doesn't have anything to do with whether or not they mean well), but it's just not something I like to see.

I also very rarely give people board warnings strictly for bad English. I can use Wohlstand as an example - he doesn't have the best English at times, but I certainly don't ever punish him for it.

Postby **Wohlstand** » Mon Jan 12, 2015 1:11 am

Joey wrote:I also very rarely give people board warnings strictly for bad English. I can use Wohlstand as an example - he doesn't have the best English at times, but I certainly don't ever punish him for it.

I have more British English than American. How I know between them are many differences:
http://www.english-at-home.com/grammar/ ... n-english/
Firstly, in the schools of my country teaching a British English mainly. I had some wrong mistakes in text, but now I have better English than half year ago.
By anyway this community is international and people from total world are coming here. Even when people learning English, they are may learn difference English (don't forget even Australia) which have differences with American English. I have think, this community have more non-English people than English native speakers. I think, I will open poll in the sandbox to get true information.

Imaynotbehere4long · Postby **Imaynotbehere4long** » Mon Jan 12, 2015 11:37 am

Wohlstand wrote:I have more British English than American. How I know between them are many differences:
http://www.english-at-home.com/grammar/ ... n-english/

That's actually really interesting. I always thought that the only differences between British English and American English were vocabulary and spelling; I never knew about the grammatical differences.

Postby **Shadow Yoshi** » Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:11 pm

Alright, so - judging by the sample of who answered the poll, 40% can definitively say they are happy with the direction the community is going.

Regardless of what you answered, why did you answer that way? If you're happy, I want to know why; if you're unhappy, I also want to know why. Even if you have no opinion, I still want to see the reasoning behind your decision. Please be as detailed as possible with specific examples of what you do/don't like.

JupiHornet · Postby **JupiHornet** » Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:49 pm

Joey wrote:Alright, so - judging by the sample of who answered the poll, 40% can definitively say they are happy with the direction the community is going.

Regardless of what you answered, why did you answer that way? If you're happy, I want to know why; if you're unhappy, I also want to know why. Even if you have no opinion, I still want to see the reasoning behind your decision. Please be as detailed as possible with specific examples of what you do/don't like.

I basically have no opinion because I like some things about this community (friendly user base, level contests) but dislike others (subpar moderation)

The moderation problem looks like it's being fixed though, with the addition of a few more global moderators and an administrator.