The Paranormal

[silent_]

To this day, I am familiar with many people who don't believe in the existence of apparitions, but I think that's quite dumb. I do indeed believe there is solid proof that angels and demons exist. There is solid proof that the holy spirit and the diabolical exist. Around your area, there are likely hundreds of haunted houses, but you choose not to believe. Why? Well, some people are superstitious, and usually young adults are really the people who don't believe in anything. Also, scientists don't like to believe in other worlds or things besides humans, animals, and plants, but since there is proof of aliens, why don't believe in ghosts? And if you don't believe in ghosts, where do you think people go where they die? In infinite blackness? A hellish dark void? Or do you simply believe that people go to heaven or hell and can't come back to the Earth?

Another thing I believe is that if you die and come back to life (or go "beyond and back"), other things can follow you back to Earth and haunt you. When you rise up to heaven or hell, I don't think you're the only dead person that knows, if that makes much sense.

And may I add, even though I believe in these things, I'm not incredibly religious (this does not mean I don't believe in God). I don't go to church. I haven't got baptized. However, I still choose to believe in the paranormal. Why, Kep? WHY? Number one, I get signs before someone dies. Exactly a week before my grandfather died, I saw a white dove which are believed to mean "peace, love, faith, and hope" and they are supposedly sent out by God to people who believe (or even don't believe, I'm not a hundred percent sure). The night when my grandmother died, there was a colossal orb in the middle of my room with a face in it. I also have dreams. A few months after my cat died, I was having an awful nightmare which still haunts me in my sleep, and in the middle of when I was experiencing this dream my dead cat went into my arms and then I woke up, and I saw a shadow cat sprinting across my room. I also had a dream with my grandfather in it; he said, "I'm gonna see yo mama next week", and exactly a week later, I got told by my mom the next morning (she believed in ghosts and knew I did too) that she saw my grandfather in the middle of the room after she woke up for the first time that night.

All of these experiences can't be coincidences, and does I really look like I would lie just to get attention? Only obnoxious people do that kind of stuff. Sure, I may be obnoxious to you, but I'm not desperately attention-seeking.

Please share your ghostly/no rational exclamation experiences and say if you believe in ghosts and why or why not.

Also, saying, "Scientists don't believe in ghosts" is NOT a legitimate reason to say, "I don't believe in ghosts", because scientists aren't always the answer to mysteries, so please be aware of that.

[Raster]

Ghosts are mere residual energies. Since most people who have studied ghosts and the paranormal seem to agree that there is a scientific explanation for paranormal occurrences, I think it's all related to physics and energy, and how our brain interprets it.

[BTB]

your logic is ass backwards
people are more open to the belief aliens exist because the universe is infinite, which means somewhere the things that happened here couldve happened somewhere else
when you die i dont think there is even blackness, i think just nothing
there was nothing before we were born, why should there be after we died?
and also saying scientists dont believe in ghosts is a valid answer, while sometimes they get things wrong they actually study things like this

[HeroOfRhyme]

I don't remember before I was born. Honestly. It's like a big time eraser that prevents me from knowing what happened while I wasn't alive to the time i was born. Same with being dead, When I did I am willing to bet that it's just going to be nothing, for eternity. Time advancing several years per minute. Or maybe, I might be reincarnated as someone else...or some other thing like and animal..

No one knows, really... but I heard from my ex-girlfriend, while having heart surgery, that dying is just like an everlasting sleep. Stuff that takes 4 hours, only takes 4 minutes.

[silent_]

I didn't really expect a bunch of "there was nothing before you were born" and "I don't remember before I was born". What do you think birth is and why do you think it relates to this? Birth is experiencing even existing anywhere for the first time. Birth has nothing to do with topic. Also, I am damn sure only about one percent of the people on Earth believe for once second that what I'm about to say is true, but I don't think ghosts relate to energy whatsoever. Ghosts are merely spirits that are just like humans but they are in their own little world. The only time ghosts relate to energy is when they're feeding off of humans and trying to get into their body.

Lastly, this is to the people who don't believe in the paranormal, what do you consider possession to be? The act of people becoming crazy as a bull? Mental illness? Et cetera?

[HeroOfRhyme]

I am one to believe that possession of a host is just a different being that is trying to take over for the sole purpose of living its own purpose. Just as say, Vegeta was possessed by Babidi. He was possessed in the mind and body, to take orders from him. Another way of looking at possession is internally.

I think possession can happen by diseases, yes. A Parasite that is using the body as a host. There are also plenty other definitions of possession.

[BTB]

I didn't really expect a bunch of "there was nothing before you were born" and "I don't remember before I was born". What do you think birth is and why do you think it relates to this? Birth is experiencing even existing anywhere for the first time. Birth has nothing to do with topic.

yes it does, you asked what you thought happened after you died
i replied id assume it would be like before birth, which was complete nothingness
and possession is probably just people wanting attention, or people going apeshit

[Julia Pseudo]

and possession is probably just people wanting attention, or people going apeshit

Yeah basically this.

Anyways, in reply to your original post, Kep, I don't believe in the paranormal because the only evidence for it I've hears is straight word of mouth. I've never had or really have hard evidence for any kind of supernatural experience. If such an occurrence were recorded somehow, or if I experienced it myself, then yes I'd probably be forced to believe in this kind of thing. But right now it seems kind of silly to me.

Like BTB said, I think that when you die there isn't blackness, there's literally nothing. Your brain has stopped working, there's no electricity being transmitted in there any more. That's literally your entire consciousness. If that's not working any more, then no you're not going to experience anything. As BTB described, it's just like before you're born. No electricity has been transmitted yet in that case, so it's essentially the same situation.

proof of aliens

Since when? For the record, no I don't believe in aliens either. I think it's highly likely that aliens exist somewhere given the scale of the universe, but we don't have any hard evidence for their existence, yet.

As for the white dove thing, that seems pretty confirmation biasey to me. You already believed in this kind of stuff, so you believed that that's what the white dove meant. In my opinion, it was just a bird.

[silent_]

Pseudo-dino, there are plenty of websites suggesting proof of aliens.

Also, allow me to switch topics here: It is ridiculous to think Earth is the only planet that supports life. I think there are millions of planets that we have not yet discovered. I do indeed believe in aliens, because it is crazy to for one second to believe that if God exists, how come other unknown things wouldn't exist? It is simply the Bible that made us learn about God. We would not know about him if it wasn't for it. Therefore, there has got to be other things not discovered.

OH GOD I WANT TO BECOME A SCIENTIST TO PROVE PEOPLE WRONG

Anyway, again, I have nothing against any of you and it's perfectly okay to not believe in the paranormal, but the only thing I despise is that some people only like to believe things if scientists believe in it, but frankly, it's called self-experience. If you don't believe in haunted houses, go to the Whaley House (oh, I just remembered a lot of people in countries besides the USA may not know what this place is, but look it up if you are intrigued), or simply go to some of kind of place that may make you believe? And if you're really wanting to risk your life, try a seance? Try a Ouija board? Try a ghost box? Overall, though, there are so many ways to get "unskeptical". Yet, there are so many people who just say "it doesn't exist AT ALL" and still don't want self-experience. No offense, but this proves you are a chicken.

[BTB]

being skeptical doesnt mean saying it doesnt exist at all, being skeptical means asking questions and not being easily convinced by things
there is nothing wrong with being doubtful of things youve never seen proof of, so dont tell people to be "unskeptical"

[Danny]

Do I believe that ghosts exist? Quite possibly. I'd had plenty of paranormal thinks happen in my house. Although to be quite honest they're more believable than saying a room is completely trashed, because that has never happened before. Some times I can hear a child run down my hall in the middle of the night. Sometimes something falls over in the other room even when all of my cats are in the same room as me (which is most of the time). I've had things gone missing that I knew exactly where they were, something like that.

It may not be any paranormal activity per se, but it's definitely something that isn't a normal, common thing with other people.

Since somebody brought up the topic of extraterrestrial life, I have two things to say.

I do believe that we are not alone in this universe, I wouldn't imagine us being alone in this universe given its vast size, because our solar system is but a single grain of sand on a massive beach, if not less than that, possible a molecule even. In this vastness, we can't be the only planet with life, as there are many other candidates that have been proven possible of sustaining life, there has to be some species, either more or less technologically and/or mentally advanced than us, that lives out in the universe. Have they visited Earth? Who knows, not me.

Second thing I wanted to tell you is my most favorite quote from Arthur C. Clarke, one of my favorite authors.

“Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.” ― Arthur C. Clarke

[Marina]

Well, do I believe in the paranormal? Kinda. I'm open minded about these things. I also think there could or could not be a God (but in referrence to the Evolution thread, I don't think he created the Earth in seven days. I think he COULD be responisble for creating the universe with the big bagn and everything, but that's as far as I'm going to believe in it)

As for ghosts, I didn't have experiences with ghosts myself yet, and honestly, from all the stuff I've heard, I really don't want to. I'm a very paranoid and anxious person, and when I'm home alone, I lock myself in my room and turn the music up loud, also I close the window curtains because I'm too scared that something from the outside could be staring in. (And that has to say something, because I live on the second floor of our house.)

I like to think that when we die, our consciousness leaves the body with the energy, and we turn into what I would call a ghost, basically energy with no physical body. But I'm really not sure, the eternal sleep thing wouldn't bother me too much...


Aliens? Yes. I'm certain that SOMEWHERE in the universe there are other planets that inhabit life. But I guess these are too far away. Also how high are the chances that there is life outside of earth AND their technology is advanced enough to reach us? Not very high. I, for one, am not afraid of UFO attacks or something like that. As far as the alien "sightings" go. Idk if they're real. Maybe? I'm honestly more scared that if aliens ever visit us, humans will try to enslave them and make them do the work for them or make the whole species go instinct. Because that's usually what humans do.

[silent_]

That being said, if we turn to ghosts when we die, wouldn't the earth be over-crowded with them? Think about that for a moment.

I think that when people die, they have a choice to come back to Earth as non-human form, so that's why the Earth isn't over-crowded with them.

Otherwise, I don't have much patience to reply to every single one of you all, sorry. However, I have some more questions to ask you all:

Do you think all of the ghost stories on TV are just fake?
Do you really think The Conjuring and The Possession are based off of true stories? (These are both movies, by the way.)
Do you think saying a demon's name will give it power over you? (No, I'm not talking about Voldemort who is a fiction demon from a fiction book.)
Do you ever think scientists will be able to prove the existence of the paranormal?

I am not going to answer these questions until I get answers from other people, but I will say, please consider watching The Conjuring and The Possession. The Possession is on Netflix, and you could easily rent The Conjuring since it's very popular. Also, Deliver Us From Evil is coming out extremely soon, that will be quite similar to The Conjuring since it is the same two demonologists as the ones on The Conjuring, but they will both be solving a different paranormal case.

[Emral]

Do the daily Déjà-vu's I have count?
If not, I seem to have no connection to anything supernatural.

*edit this post some more*
Wouldn't the paranormal be considered some kind of extended "normal" if it was in our daily life?

[Marina]

Do you think all of the ghost stories on TV are just fake?

Yes.

Do you really think The Conjuring and The Possession are based off of true stories? (These are both movies, by the way.)

No.

Do you think saying a demon's name will give it power over you? (No, I'm not talking about Voldemort who is a fiction demon from a fiction book.)

What the hell if saying Voldemorts name would give his power to the speaker then the HP books would've been over after the first book did you even read HP

Also I think it depends on the demon.

Do you ever think scientists will be able to prove the existence of the paranormal?

That depends on the question if the paranormal actually exists. So that's a maybe.

[Magna]

One time, I was doing homework, my backpack zipper unzipped itself and when I turned around, it stopped and I was like
GOAST!
Another time, I put a 3DS game cart on my table, went to the bathroom came back and saw that it wasn't there. None of the people living in my house said they took it. When I finally found it underneath my brothers mattress I was like
GHOWST!

[silent_]

Knux and GLuigiX, I appreciate the answers. However, Knux, what do you mean by I know one of those two movies are true? If you know one of them is, which one or did you just say that for the fun of it?

And yes, I read Harry Potter, GLuigiX. Harry and Dumbledore are strong enough to say Voldemort's name. Did you even read the first chapter of the first book?

[silent_]

Knux, I tried to view the video you linked me to and it said, "This video is not available in your country". However, I just typed it in on YouTube and I got all kinds of results; I don't feel like watching it right now though.

Blue Greed, why would a ghost unzip your backpack and steal your 3DS? Even then, you probably just left your backpack unzipped and misplaced your 3DS.

[silent_]

Don't watch it.

I just did again and now I'm feeling uneasy.

I just watched it. Frankly, things like that don't scare me.

[Raster]

I think the story about the doll was made up to attract visitors to their museum. There's no concrete evidence that any of that happened, right?