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Evolution

Postby lighthouse64 » Mon Jun 23, 2014 1:52 am

Who here thinks evolution is real??? :?

I don't.


I wonder if this will turn into a long discussion... :arrow:

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Re: Evolution

Postby Julia Pseudo » Mon Jun 23, 2014 3:11 am

I hope it doesn't turn into a real discussion because it's one not worth having. The evidence for evolution is immense and has been since the theory was first proposed by Darwin…

This Wikipedia article summarizes the evidence pretty well. Overall, when a theory is accepted by virtually everyone in the scientific community, it's pretty safe to say that it's true.

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Re: Evolution

Postby Danny » Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:37 am

Darwinism is quite flawed as is, but it's still much more plausible­­­­—and something I would accept more­­­­—than Creationism, which is flawed as well.
I wonder if this will turn into a long discussion... :arrow:
It's more likely to break out in an argument and get locked before it turns into a long discussion. First rule of Fight Club, one person if going to complain about this which will cause trouble. This type of discussion has an extremely low chance of surviving civilly for very long.

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Re: Evolution

Postby Emral » Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:35 am

I don't see how evolution could be fake.
Humanity in the past 2000 years is one example.
Dinosaurs to birds another.

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Re: Evolution

Postby Magna » Mon Jun 23, 2014 7:49 am

Of course evolution is real. Every religious person who doesn't want people to learn about evolution is an idiot. This is the best theory of how we all came to existence. Why else would you find fossils of past organisms that look similar to us or other present day animals.

Natural Selection is what makes an organism survive in a changing environment. Every so often, something in the environment happens and the organisms either have to adapt, move to another environment, interbreed, or become extinct. Over the course of all these years, you can find the fossils or tracks or any kind of evidence that these organisms existed, and you can also find out that they evolved from something before because of Natural Selection if you compare the fossils.

Evolution Theory > Adam and Eve

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Re: Evolution

Postby aero » Mon Jun 23, 2014 7:56 am

Well yes evolution exists otherwise it wouldn't be a scientific theory, which means it's well tested and supported by various experiments, research, and testing. One of the best examples I've heard for the case of evolution is when Columbus first me the Indians and a lot of them were wiped out due to diseases the European explorers carried which they were immune to. Also lab tests have been done showing the evolution of bacteria since they can reproduce quickly. In fact, one of the reasons why antibiotics are being cut back on is due to the evolution of bacteria becoming more resistant to antibiotics.

Now I'm not about to explain evolution in detail, and the various other cases for it since my experience on the subject is Freshman Biology (which I got B in.) I would however ask you to do more research on the subject for yourself and look for any fallacy in your argument to make it or stronger or find out where you may be wrong.

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Re: Evolution

Postby TLtimelord » Mon Jun 23, 2014 9:30 am

Blue Greed wrote:Of course evolution is real. Every religious person who doesn't want people to learn about evolution is an idiot. This is the best theory of how we all came to existence. Why else would you find fossils of past organisms that look similar to us or other present day animals.

Natural Selection is what makes an organism survive in a changing environment. Every so often, something in the environment happens and the organisms either have to adapt, move to another environment, interbreed, or become extinct. Over the course of all these years, you can find the fossils or tracks or any kind of evidence that these organisms existed, and you can also find out that they evolved from something before because of Natural Selection if you compare the fossils.

Evolution Theory > Adam and Eve
And there you go, bashing other people's opinions, just like with the COD and "get off the Internet if you refuse to switch to new consoles" attitude that got you your -8 rep.

I'm more so in between on evolution and "creation" as I'm aware how flawed both beliefs are. This is one of the reasons why I'm agnostic.

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Re: Evolution

Postby Magna » Mon Jun 23, 2014 9:38 am

TNTtimelord wrote:
Blue Greed wrote:Of course evolution is real. Every religious person who doesn't want people to learn about evolution is an idiot. This is the best theory of how we all came to existence. Why else would you find fossils of past organisms that look similar to us or other present day animals.

Natural Selection is what makes an organism survive in a changing environment. Every so often, something in the environment happens and the organisms either have to adapt, move to another environment, interbreed, or become extinct. Over the course of all these years, you can find the fossils or tracks or any kind of evidence that these organisms existed, and you can also find out that they evolved from something before because of Natural Selection if you compare the fossils.

Evolution Theory > Adam and Eve
And there you go, bashing other people's opinions, just like with the COD and "get off the Internet if you refuse to switch to new consoles" attitude that got you your -8 rep.

I'm more so in between on evolution and "creation" as I'm aware how flawed both beliefs are. This is one of the reasons why I'm agnostic.
I'm not sure what you're getting at, I just stated facts. If you are talking about how I think the creation theory is blasphemy, then you have to respect what I believe of it. I can have opinions, too, you know. You are saying that I can't express my opinions because they are against what other people believe? Isn't that what opinions are about?

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Re: Evolution

Postby aero » Mon Jun 23, 2014 9:43 am

Blue Greed wrote:I'm not sure what you're getting at, I just stated facts. If you are talking about how I think the creation theory is blasphemy, then you have to respect what I believe of it. I can have opinions, too, you know. You are saying that I can't express my opinions because they are against what other people believe? Isn't that what opinions are about?
Blue Greed wrote:Every religious person who doesn't want people to learn about evolution is an idiot.
Blue Greed wrote:Evolution Theory > Adam and Eve
So which is it? Are you stating facts or expressing your opinion?

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Re: Evolution

Postby Magna » Mon Jun 23, 2014 9:46 am

GhostHawk wrote:
Blue Greed wrote:I'm not sure what you're getting at, I just stated facts. If you are talking about how I think the creation theory is blasphemy, then you have to respect what I believe of it. I can have opinions, too, you know. You are saying that I can't express my opinions because they are against what other people believe? Isn't that what opinions are about?
Blue Greed wrote:Every religious person who doesn't want people to learn about evolution is an idiot.
Blue Greed wrote:Evolution Theory > Adam and Eve
So which is it? Are you stating facts or expressing your opinion?
Well besides the facts, I also stated what I thought of the creation theory, too.

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Re: Evolution

Postby Hawkeyeone » Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:48 am

As a Roman Catholic, I believe that God created the universe and Adam & Eve, but when topics like these aren't on my mind I don't think about whether creationism or evolution is the better theory.

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Re: Evolution

Postby RudeGuy » Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:51 am

If the evolution is false, how 2 people can create 1 000 000 other people (the generation arrive without flaws at the second)?
And then, why many fossils and why apes are similar to us like some ancient animals are similar to certain animals of this time?
Many questions would arrive if evolution doesn't exist.

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Re: Evolution

Postby aero » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:01 pm



Here's more, on the point I made earlier.

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Re: Evolution

Postby Marina » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:55 pm

Well, the great thing about science is, even if you don't believe in it, it's still true. :P

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Re: Evolution

Postby xtremegamer51 » Mon Jun 23, 2014 1:35 pm

Well while I don't have much information other then whats already been said on this topic to back me up,I do also think evolution is real.
Now if you don't mind,Im gonna go evolve my pikachu.
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Re: Evolution

Postby Danny » Mon Jun 23, 2014 1:55 pm

lighthouse64 wrote:Who here thinks evolution is real??? :?

I don't.
First off, can I ask why you don't believe in evolution? You didn't give a very good and detailed reason here. It's been proven to exist, there is information that exists out there that points to it's existence.

Second, I have to ask why you created this thread after stating your religious beliefs in the Gay Marriage thread. Are you purposefully trying to cause some type of banter between Darwinists and Creationists? It honestly seems so.

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Re: Evolution

Postby Megar » Mon Jun 23, 2014 2:22 pm

of course i believe in evolution
my scyther evolved into scizor when i traded it holding a metal coat

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Re: Evolution

Postby Murphmario » Mon Jun 23, 2014 2:35 pm

Blueoak wrote:of course i believe in evolution
my scyther evolved into scizor when i traded it holding a metal coat
Not Pokemon evolution, REAL evolution. It exists all right.

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Re: Evolution

Postby Marina » Mon Jun 23, 2014 2:47 pm

(Kinda off topic but also not really)

Looking at threads like these, you can kinda tell how flawed the educational system in some countries is, because where I live noone believes in Creationism. Not even the REALLY conservative Christians. Our RE teacher once told us that you can't take everything that stands in the bible for literal. She said that the "bible is a book with lots of metaphors and pictures" and even though it says the world was created seven days, noone here doubts that it took millions of years for life like we know it today to exist. Actually if you said you think that Creationism was real, people would probably think it's a joke.

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Re: Evolution

Postby Julia Pseudo » Mon Jun 23, 2014 3:10 pm

Pokémon evolution is much more similar to metamorphosis or simply different stages of development during an animal's life than actual evolution, which occurs over millions of years mainly due to natural selection and genetic drift. I know y'all we're joking but I just want to be clear.


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