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Re: New metroid ?
Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 10:59 am
by Martroid98
Never use emulators and do illegal things. Emulators are illegal even when the games are old or you already have bought a legal copy.
Prove:
http://www.nintendo.com/corp/legal.jsp#download_rom
You can download Metroid and Super Metroid very cheap on the Wii U (even with save states) compared to the prices on amazon (50€). So I don't understand why you have to get emulators. It's better when you pay
5-8 € instead of doing illegal things.
Magna DominXus wrote:
Half the internet is illegal.
This is no excuse.
Re: New metroid ?
Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 11:01 am
by crazy metroid
have metroid fusion for wii u?
Re: New metroid ?
Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 4:08 pm
by HeroOfRhyme
Martroid98 wrote:Never use emulators and do illegal things. Emulators are illegal even when the games are old or you already have bought a legal copy.
Prove:
http://www.nintendo.com/corp/legal.jsp#download_rom
You can download Metroid and Super Metroid very cheap on the Wii U (even with save states) compared to the prices on amazon (50€). So I don't understand why you have to get emulators. It's better when you pay
5-8 € instead of doing illegal things.
Magna DominXus wrote:
Half the internet is illegal.
This is no excuse.
Man, why do you have to be such a fucking party pooper. Lighten up, get an emu, play a game. Just because you don't do shit, and you pay the money for that shit, doesn't mean everyone else has the money for it. Quit being such a fancy pants lamer that has to do everything by the book and right, and start putting some illegality in your life. Everyone does some illegal stuff.
Re: New metroid ?
Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 4:28 pm
by Magna DominXus
SnifitGuy wrote:In all honesty, Nintendo doesn't really have a right to attack emulators. Now before saying, "Well, Nintendo has copyrighted the characters," think about this: the old video games aren't sold anymore, and since Nintendo no longer makes money off of them, then the emulators are doing nothing actually harmful. Nintendo says it's illegal to make money off of Nintendo content (which is a little bit of a piss-off for Mario Game LPers), but since emulators don't make money off of Nintendo content, and the fact that they can't emulate modern 3D games well (if at all), which is what the current consumer enjoys, then Nintendo has nothing to worry about.
Virtual Console. They can still get pissed at you for playing their old games.
Re: New metroid ?
Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 4:31 pm
by HeroOfRhyme
Magna DominXus wrote:SnifitGuy wrote:In all honesty, Nintendo doesn't really have a right to attack emulators. Now before saying, "Well, Nintendo has copyrighted the characters," think about this: the old video games aren't sold anymore, and since Nintendo no longer makes money off of them, then the emulators are doing nothing actually harmful. Nintendo says it's illegal to make money off of Nintendo content (which is a little bit of a piss-off for Mario Game LPers), but since emulators don't make money off of Nintendo content, and the fact that they can't emulate modern 3D games well (if at all), which is what the current consumer enjoys, then Nintendo has nothing to worry about.
Virtual Console. They can still get pissed at you for playing their old games.
But that would basically be like saying "Don't play our games". If people like your work, they're obviously going to play the best of it. Getting pissed off about emulators when people took the time to code them for PC gamers, especially even when Dolphin states; "dump your own roms, don't download them". As long as Emulators don't make profit, then there is nothing to worry about.
Re: New metroid ?
Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 4:38 pm
by Magna DominXus
Reichiya wrote:Magna DominXus wrote:SnifitGuy wrote:In all honesty, Nintendo doesn't really have a right to attack emulators. Now before saying, "Well, Nintendo has copyrighted the characters," think about this: the old video games aren't sold anymore, and since Nintendo no longer makes money off of them, then the emulators are doing nothing actually harmful. Nintendo says it's illegal to make money off of Nintendo content (which is a little bit of a piss-off for Mario Game LPers), but since emulators don't make money off of Nintendo content, and the fact that they can't emulate modern 3D games well (if at all), which is what the current consumer enjoys, then Nintendo has nothing to worry about.
Virtual Console. They can still get pissed at you for playing their old games.
But that would basically be like saying "Don't play our games". If people like your work, they're obviously going to play the best of it. Getting pissed off about emulators when people took the time to code them for PC gamers, especially even when Dolphin states; "dump your own roms, don't download them".
As long as Emulators don't make profit, then there is nothing to worry about.
This can be related to SMBX. Redigit wasn't earning money from SMBX, and yet Nintendo still shut down Redigit's game, even if your argument about playing games on emulators as long as they aren't being sold for money, then this is just not right.
Re: New metroid ?
Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 4:39 pm
by silent_
I despise Metroid, I always thought it was lousy and dull.
Re: New metroid ?
Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 4:58 pm
by HeroOfRhyme
Kep wrote:I despise Metroid, I always thought it was lousy and dull.
What possessed you to write such a lousy and dull message then? Metroid isn't lousy and dull. I bet if you play Metroid Prime 3, that game was really fun. Metroid Prime 2 even. Both were full of action.
Re: New metroid ?
Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 5:58 pm
by sleepy
SnifitGuy wrote:In all honesty, Nintendo doesn't really have a right to attack emulators. Now before saying, "Well, Nintendo has copyrighted the characters," think about this: the old video games aren't sold anymore, and since Nintendo no longer makes money off of them, then the emulators are doing nothing actually harmful. Nintendo says it's illegal to make money off of Nintendo content (which is a little bit of a piss-off for Mario Game LPers), but since emulators don't make money off of Nintendo content, and the fact that they can't emulate modern 3D games well (if at all), which is what the current consumer enjoys, then Nintendo has nothing to worry about.
VC sells old games.
You can find old games on the internet (not roms, actual cartridges to pay for)
Therefore, your point is moot.
Kep wrote:I despise Metroid, I always thought it was lousy and dull.
Don't judge a game until you've
actually played it.
Re: New metroid ?
Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 6:51 pm
by Julia Pseudo
Every goddamn person on the Internet (this is hyperbole, mind you) uses emulators. Especially if you own the game/are playing a romhack it's a completely victimless crime. I do not think that emulating/pirating games that are easily obtainable in the modern day is right, though. But if you're going to emulate a game that is not widely available (widely available includes Virtual Console, an excellent idea from Nintendo) or one that you already own for some other purpose, I don't think there's anything ethically wrong with that. This is just my opinion on the matter.
Re: New metroid ?
Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 8:41 pm
by Murphmario
Martroid98 wrote:Never use emulators and do illegal things. Emulators are illegal even when the games are old or you already have bought a legal copy.
Prove:
http://www.nintendo.com/corp/legal.jsp#download_rom
You can download Metroid and Super Metroid very cheap on the Wii U (even with save states) compared to the prices on amazon (50€). So I don't understand why you have to get emulators. It's better when you pay
5-8 € instead of doing illegal things.
Magna DominXus wrote:
Half the internet is illegal.
This is no excuse.
Nintendo can't make the law. Emulators are 100% legal.
Re: New metroid ?
Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 9:21 pm
by sleepy
Murphmario wrote:
Nintendo can't make the law. Emulators are 100% legal.
But ROMs are not.
edit: oooops
Re: New metroid ?
Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 9:34 pm
by HeroOfRhyme
sleepy wrote:Murphmario wrote:
Nintendo can't make the law. Emulators are 100% legal.
But ROMs are not.
Fixed. ROMs are illegal. That's the only thing that I agree with, however there is no other way if you're desperate now is there?
Re: New metroid ?
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 12:48 pm
by zlaker
Kep wrote:I despise Metroid, I always thought it was lousy and dull.
Have you even played the games?
Re: New metroid ?
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 1:29 pm
by Martroid98
Kep wrote:I despise Metroid, I always thought it was lousy and dull.
Play Super Metroid, Metroid Prime Trilogy and Metroid Fusion and you'll think otherwise. You can't review a game series when you didn't even play it.
Re: New metroid ?
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 6:46 pm
by HeroOfRhyme
Martroid98 wrote:Kep wrote:I despise Metroid, I always thought it was lousy and dull.
Play Super Metroid, Metroid Prime Trilogy and Metroid Fusion and you'll think otherwise. You can't review a game series when you didn't even play it.
Metroid Fusion was just awkward, given how linear it was though.
Re: New metroid ?
Posted: Thu May 29, 2014 3:01 am
by Martroid98
Reichiya wrote:Martroid98 wrote:Kep wrote:I despise Metroid, I always thought it was lousy and dull.
Play Super Metroid, Metroid Prime Trilogy and Metroid Fusion and you'll think otherwise. You can't review a game series when you didn't even play it.
Metroid Fusion was just awkward, given how linear it was though.
The game is a bit linear but it's really fun and the storyline and the surprising events are really awesome. It's the 4th best metroid game in my opinion.