[LAST MINUTE SCRAMBLE] Spring Vanilla Level Contest 2022 - Rules & Discussion

[Ibaka]

Technical:
Can you have a time limit?
Will a level be disqualified if it has a softblock?

[Emral]

Technical:
Can you have a time limit?
Will a level be disqualified if it has a softblock?

Questions:
1. Is there a limit to the number of music paths?
2. If a level has lag issues, is it disqualified?

Just follow the stated rules and you'll be fine. The first post implicitly answers all of these. Please read it thoroughly.
In short: Yes if you use the section settings timer; no; no; no.

[Ibaka]

Submitted! #2

[Slashjay]

I'm in it

[Black Mamba]

read and understand rules challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)

[Mal8rk]

Question:

Can you put two or more custom songs into your level?

[Valentine]

Question:

Can you put two or more custom songs into your level?

You're allowed to put as many custom songs into your level

[Metrovania]

Are we allowed to use Star Coins? If so is there a specific number required?

[Emral]

Are we allowed to use Star Coins? If so is there a specific number required?

This question has already been answered. If it's not forbidden in the rules, it's fine. You can always play the past vanilla contest to get an idea of what's allowed.

[amattson7919]

Question about the palace switch toggles, because it affects my level design: Will they all be available from the beginning, or will they be spread out throughout the episode? I want to make a level with multiple routes through to the second exit, dependent upon the switches that have been switched.

[Valentine]

Question about the palace switch toggles, because it affects my level design: Will they all be available from the beginning, or will they be spread out throughout the episode? I want to make a level with multiple routes through to the second exit, dependent upon the switches that have been switched.

All of the switches will be available from the beginning, there will be no unlockable content.

[KnownStranger]

Sorry if this question is off-topic, but it's necessary.
If my custom level has too many events, the level editor may crash?
Definitely my vanilla submission will not have more of 80 layers and 100 events.

[Valentine]

the maximum for both layers and events is 255, but I doubt the level editor will ever crash.

[Black Mamba]

can i use goombas in my level? I wasnt sure if someone else is gonna use them so i dont want to step on any toes or break any rules or anything. thx u in advance

[Walder]

So this is more of a suggestion than a question, but I was thinking that it could be neat if lua was allowed solely for costume changing. It is part of the game, just obnoxious for the creator and the player to have them change through the costume block.

[deice]

So this is more of a suggestion than a question, but I was thinking that it could be neat if lua was allowed solely for costume changing. It is part of the game, just obnoxious for the creator and the player to have them change through the costume block.

using the logic of "it's custom content but it's bundled with the download" would also mean you could take custom graphics as long as they were from the invasion 2, wouldn't it? a costume still involves use of both custom graphics and lua.

[Walder]

So this is more of a suggestion than a question, but I was thinking that it could be neat if lua was allowed solely for costume changing. It is part of the game, just obnoxious for the creator and the player to have them change through the costume block.

using the logic of "it's custom content but it's bundled with the download" would also mean you could take custom graphics as long as they were from the invasion 2, wouldn't it? a costume still involves use of both custom graphics and lua.

Costume Block exists there in the editor, when you create an empty level. Custom graphics from the Invasion 2 don't. You can access the costumes through it, they aren't external graphics.

[deice]

Costume Block exists there in the editor, when you create an empty level. Custom graphics from the Invasion 2 don't. You can access the costumes through it, they aren't external graphics.

but i'm not talking about the costume block (in any case the episode will probably offer one so just putting it in your level serves no real purpose). forcing a costume through lua is not vanilla functionality and it would be a very strange exception to make, as it does indeed override the player's graphic with a non-default one (something that you could again do with any custom graphic that comes with SMBX2 using the Graphics class). it's just wrapped neatly within playerManager, so why draw the line so arbitrarily?

[Walder]

https://streamable.com/xkourp

The reason I mentioned the costume block is that costumes are accessible through it, with no modification or external content required. However, it's annoying and not something I'd rather have my level start with. Back in the day, custom music was also disbarred from Vanilla Contests. Fortunately this has changed since. Sure, LUA is still external influence...but is that just what Vanilla Contests are about? I reckon it's more about the limits imposed on you bringing creativity. This doesn't bring any new mechanics or any custom graphics.... it just provides an easier way to achieve something you already can do with no code. I don't really have much else to say, frankly I don't give much of a damn if I'll just have to do with SMB3 Mario, though I feel there's a discussion to be had here.

[deice]

https://streamable.com/xkourp

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it just provides an easier way to achieve something you already can do with no code.

this point doesn't really stand because what the video showcases will not work as intended should the player enter with a different costume. and even then there's plenty of things that can be done in vanilla that are made easier with lua yet it still isn't allowed. there is a discussion to be had, but it's just a matter of introducing more exceptions; a clear line must be drawn somewhere in any case. (personally i wouldn't mind custom music being forbidden either but it's a matter of preference)