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Is there anything Toad can do that Mario can't?

Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 5:28 pm
by akrain
I wanted to make it so that you need Toad for an obstacle, but I don't know what Toad can do that Mario can't. I heard he's faster but how can I make a puzzle out of that? I know I could use the block where only Toad can pass but that would be more lame. Any ideas?

Re: Is there anything Toad can do that Mario can't?

Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2021 10:44 pm
by Julia Pseudo
Toad’s most unique feature is probably the double jump he can use with a leaf, which allows him to jump higher than Mario can (without space to run and start flying), as well as clear low obstacles and jump up after them.

If you don’t want to require a powerup the next most unique thing about him is probably his diagonal horizontal throwing trajectory, which can probably let him hit blocks with a shell or mushroom block (or whatever) that Mario cannot, given the right setup.

Edit: He and Peach can also throw fireballs and ice balls directly upwards by holding altrun+up with the respective powerups. This could probably be used for puzzle solving by using ice or fire blocks placed above the player in a position inaccessible to Mario’s fireballs.

Re: Is there anything Toad can do that Mario can't?

Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2021 12:48 am
by Radiance
Toad has boomerangs instead of hammers when he get a Hammer Suit and those boomerangs can get coins. That has a puzzle potential I think.

Re: Is there anything Toad can do that Mario can't?

Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2021 12:56 am
by Julia Pseudo
Ooh definitely does, if you had the coins activate events on death or similar.

Re: Is there anything Toad can do that Mario can't?

Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2021 6:09 pm
by akrain
Julia Pseudo wrote:
Sun Jul 04, 2021 10:44 pm
Toad’s most unique feature is probably the double jump he can use with a leaf, which allows him to jump higher than Mario can (without space to run and start flying), as well as clear low obstacles and jump up after them.

If you don’t want to require a powerup the next most unique thing about him is probably his diagonal horizontal throwing trajectory, which can probably let him hit blocks with a shell or mushroom block (or whatever) that Mario cannot, given the right setup.

Edit: He and Peach can also throw fireballs and ice balls directly upwards by holding altrun+up with the respective powerups. This could probably be used for puzzle solving by using ice or fire blocks placed above the player in a position inaccessible to Mario’s fireballs.
Ooh the throwing trajectory sounds interesting I'm going to test that out! Thanks.

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Drifloon wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 12:48 am
Toad has boomerangs instead of hammers when he get a Hammer Suit and those boomerangs can get coins. That has a puzzle potential I think.
Thanks that's good to know! I can definitely use that in the future.

Re: Is there anything Toad can do that Mario can't?

Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2021 7:51 pm
by Julia Pseudo
Glad I could help!