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Episode Preservation Movement

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:33 pm
by UnderscoreFyreNova
As of tilde five minutes ago, I was made aware of this occurrence on Mediafire, and that raises a huge problem for older SMBX episodes. This problem would effect most all old SMBX episodes, and would make them un-installable for newer members of the community.

This, however, is why I've made this post; I'm going to begin downloading SMBX Episodes on my own, and hosting them in places where I believe they won't get smote (Google Drive, MEGA, etc.) and I'm inviting everyone to help. That's right, everyone. And you know who that includes? You. I can't do this alone (I'm only one guy!) so I'm most likely going to need the help of at least three or four people, but extra hands are always welcome.

I don't think I can do this alone, but we can do this together.
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Discord Link is in the image; click it

Re: Episode Preservation Movement

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:13 pm
by Emral
who would've thought mediafire was trash!!!!

Re: Episode Preservation Movement

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:56 pm
by ShadowStarX
Imagine not using Google Drive or Dropbox.

On a more serious note, I would urge people to split up the work in a coordinated manner, like let's say X does Page 1, Y does Page 2 and Z does Page 3.

Re: Episode Preservation Movement

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 5:35 pm
by Taycamgame
ShadowStarX wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:56 pm
Imagine not using Google Drive or Dropbox.
Or just use Github, which is generally the future of filesharing. Comes with the added benefit of advanced version control and backups, and groups can easily work on files at the same time (which is much safer than doing this on Google Drive / Dropbox, since again it has advanced version control).

Re: Episode Preservation Movement

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 5:37 pm
by ShadowStarX
Taycamgame wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 5:35 pm
ShadowStarX wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:56 pm
Imagine not using Google Drive or Dropbox.
Or just use Github, which is generally the future of filesharing. Comes with the added benefit of advanced version control and backups.
Generally, it's always wise to put up mirror links for p. much anything that's meant to be a long-lived and constantly available download link.

Re: Episode Preservation Movement

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 5:52 pm
by Cedur
Is Google Drive or Dropbox better for large uploads?

A long time ago I TRIED to upload an episode to Dropbox bc its download was rip, and it seemed to take forever and I gave up.

Re: Episode Preservation Movement

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 6:05 pm
by Koopulution
I haven't really used Dropbox for saving my projects and levels in a looong time, so I'm going to be biased if I say Google Drive is the better option. More so, you need a Google account in order to access Google Drive...

Re: Episode Preservation Movement

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:14 pm
by Murphmario
I'd like to add that maybe efforts should be made to preserve graphics and old Lunalua as well, just in case anyone wants to use those.

Re: Episode Preservation Movement

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:07 pm
by UnderscoreFyreNova
I've added the link to the discord in the source message, in case anyone is interested in preservation.

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Murphmario wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:14 pm
I'd like to add that maybe efforts should be made to preserve graphics and old Lunalua as well, just in case anyone wants to use those.
Excellent idea; maybe we can get on that after episode preservation is done.

Re: Episode Preservation Movement

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 10:34 pm
by MECHDRAGON777
I can download all the episodes and put them on my own github. (I can also give people edit access to my github just for that reason as well) I assume one can use my github site like that.

Edit: I think this should also be done to Levels and not just episodes.

Re: Episode Preservation Movement

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:24 am
by Sonya Sanchez
ShadowStarX wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:56 pm
Imagine not using Google Drive or Dropbox.

On a more serious note, I would urge people to split up the work in a coordinated manner, like let's say X does Page 1, Y does Page 2 and Z does Page 3.
Google Drive has the issue to sometimes remove content because of a fake takedown notice, Dropbox sometimes gets stuck in huge traffic downloads.

Not to mention some people don’t know they have to remove certain restrictions of authorization on google drive.

Re: Episode Preservation Movement

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:58 am
by Wohlstand
I do store some of old episodes at my home server here https://archive.wohlsoft.ru/
Seems I need to collect the rest of them. If someone would help me to collect episodes, I'll grant the FTP access to the upload folder (PM me for details, or write by Discord)

I think, I need to plug one another HDD to my home server to expand the space as my main 4TB HDD is almost full.

Re: Episode Preservation Movement

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 4:38 am
by Darkonius Mavakar
why would you ever use mediafire

Re: Episode Preservation Movement

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 4:41 am
by Wohlstand
Darkonius Mavakar wrote:
Fri Dec 18, 2020 4:38 am
why would you ever use mediafire
Many people used Mediafire for a while, and a lot of episodes was been published via Mediafire.

Re: Episode Preservation Movement

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 6:53 am
by Sonya Sanchez
Darkonius Mavakar wrote:
Fri Dec 18, 2020 4:38 am
why would you ever use mediafire
Don’t forget that people used sendspace which randomly deleted files time to time.

Re: Episode Preservation Movement

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 8:52 am
by Wohlstand
Idunn wrote:
Fri Dec 18, 2020 6:53 am
Don’t forget that people used sendspace which randomly deleted files time to time.
That too, and therefore some years ago was given public notes/rules to don't use sendspace, otherwise, moderators will remove/reject stuff from publication, or somthing also (please fix me if I didn't correct reminded...)

Re: Episode Preservation Movement

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:56 pm
by Rixitic
It's worth noting that Google's going to be taking a similar approach with Drive (albeit one that won't take effect until June 2021) so yeah, definitely don't rely on GDrive alone for lasting long-term file hosting.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/blog.googl ... pdate/amp/

Also peer-to-peer options were brought up in codehaus yesterday. I haven't looked into it myself yet, but aero highlighted this one specifically:
https://ipfs.io/

Re: Episode Preservation Movement

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 3:11 pm
by Emral
rixithechao wrote:
Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:56 pm
Also peer-to-peer options were brought up in codehaus yesterday. I haven't looked into it myself yet, but aero highlighted this one specifically:
https://ipfs.io/
Just backed up all my releases from the past couple of years to that one. At least, all the ones I could find on my PC. I've put the CID for it into my signature. I recommend others to take similar preservation measures.

Re: Episode Preservation Movement

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 4:05 pm
by Knux
I tried preserving episodes years ago but it was difficult because many members are long gone and/or don't keep their SMBX files.

Re: Episode Preservation Movement

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 4:20 pm
by Koopulution
Looks like I need to move all of my files somewhere else then, I'm not about to pay for +15GB of storage.