The Invasion 3

[ShadowStarX]

Will the levels made in the invasion 3 Shadow Star be included?

No, they will not!
That iteration of The Invasion 3 had different goals compared to this one, and also a different set of tools to work with.

[P4VL0VSKEY]

Holy Kookie! I'm really looking forward to play it!

[MECHDRAGON777]

I just want to reiterate SSX's talking point about custom npcs and go further down with it. For the sake of filespace I don't actually think we plan on using any custom NPCs at all, maybe one or two levels will have some custom npcs assets at most and I don't even want to promise that. This may be subject to change, but since the goal of this is to be apart of basegame in future versions of SMBX2 then we want to make sure we don't end up bloating the download size.

You should have very little problem with bloat, at least comparatively to The Invasion 2. When you download SMBX2 right now, it comes with The Invasion 2 as a basegame episode which consists of 2258 files @ 13.1 MBs. Most of those files are .gifs with masks and the actual .lvl files themselves.
I’m not sure if you’ve discussed with the devs if your Invasion 3 would replace the current one, but if it is a replacement then it would have to be of comparable size to not be consider “bloated”. This would not be as hard as you may think…

As I mentioned above, I converted all the level files of The Invasion 2 to .lvlx and graphics to .png, which decreased the size to 1751 files @ 6.84 MBs. That’s a 507 file and 6.26 MB decrease to its size, just by those simple steps. You could further decrease that by changing the same custom tilesets used in multiple levels (such as warp 1, warp 2, warp 3, warp 4, warp 8, and warp 9) onto episode custom blocks 751-1000 so that one block could be used over multiple levels while only taking up 1 extra file slot. Depending on how many levels use the same custom blocks, that too could be substantial.

Theoretically, you could create an episode with more levels that would actually be smaller in size than the current basegame Invasion 2.

(perhaps gravity if anything)

I'd be down with a "Low G Labyrinth" level. If anything, it could help people create that type of effect for their levels by letting them examine the Lua used to make it.

To go even further on that, you can also use mostly base-game music and .spcs. I do not think custom NPCs would exactly "bloat" the file-size however.

[TLtimelord]

I'm just psyching myself out about the filesize of the episode that's all lol

[ShadowXeldron]

To go even further on that, you can also use mostly base-game music and .spcs. I do not think custom NPCs would exactly "bloat" the file-size however.

Agreed with you there. Although SPCs are only for SNES music. Luckilly, SMBX2 supports OGG (better and smaller than MP3, and you can loop it) as well as other stuff like NSF (NES) and GYM (Genesis). All the compatible SMBX2 audio formats are here: https://wohlsoft.ru/pgewiki/SDL_Mixer_X

[Kimjosh12]

I wish to get super computer to download deez nuts, I Wish to create my own Video Games in future

[JulianSteve_18]

Also as a suggestion, I think they should give an improvement to the graphics they use, for example in the level "Brick Block Massacre" you can see that the starman has the sprite of SMW and it would be good if it had the sprite of SMB1 since that level It is set on a SMB1 level, and also that the coin and brick effects had their corresponding sprites depending on the theme of the level.

[DisasterMaster]

Not every single basegame SMBX2 feature will be featured (primarily those NPCs that are difficult to design around in a beginner-friendly way)

Which specific NPCs are difficult to design around? I'll see if I can make a rough-draft of a level featuring any that you mention.

[Sonya Sanchez]

Looks pretty good so far, levels look well designed and don’t really overuse custom graphics for now or anything like that.


If you ever would need a third tester I’m up for it.

Level designers sound promising.

[Wiimeiser]

To round things out, how about an optional Star World with a night/space/abstract theme?

Not every single basegame SMBX2 feature will be featured (primarily those NPCs that are difficult to design around in a beginner-friendly way)

Which specific NPCs are difficult to design around? I'll see if I can make a rough-draft of a level featuring any that you mention.

Frightlight or whatever it's called might be one, I think. I'm not sure how it even works...

[Murphmario]

Something to point out with the Retroville level; some of the graphics used in it aren't accurate to their original NES counterparts (as an example, the green parts of the tree semisolids had outlines in the original SMB1 but not here for some reason). Would anyone be against me uploading replacement graphics.

[ShadowStarX]

Something to point out with the Retroville level; some of the graphics used in it aren't accurate to their original NES counterparts (as an example, the green parts of the tree semisolids had outlines in the original SMB1 but not here for some reason). Would anyone be against me uploading replacement graphics.

Honestly accurate NES graphics as PNGs would be great and appreciated.
(This is the level that is talked about)

[Jumper]

To round things out, how about an optional Star World with a night/space/abstract theme?

Not every single basegame SMBX2 feature will be featured (primarily those NPCs that are difficult to design around in a beginner-friendly way)

Which specific NPCs are difficult to design around? I'll see if I can make a rough-draft of a level featuring any that you mention.

Frightlight or whatever it's called might be one, I think. I'm not sure how it even works...

Frightlight functions much the same as a Boo, except when you look at it, it'll teleport to another location within the level after staring for a few seconds.
True to its name, it also has a light source attached to its head (useful when in dark levels).

Hope that helps.

[Murphmario]

Something to point out with the Retroville level; some of the graphics used in it aren't accurate to their original NES counterparts (as an example, the green parts of the tree semisolids had outlines in the original SMB1 but not here for some reason). Would anyone be against me uploading replacement graphics.

Honestly accurate NES graphics as PNGs would be great and appreciated.
(This is the level that is talked about)

Okay, here they are. Feel free to use these for levels and whatnot that aren't related to TI3 as well.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/e9lop17eh16c8 ... s.zip?dl=0
Also, you can easily convert GIFs to PNGs via a tool included in PGE. It's under external tools.

[ShadowStarX]

Something to point out with the Retroville level; some of the graphics used in it aren't accurate to their original NES counterparts (as an example, the green parts of the tree semisolids had outlines in the original SMB1 but not here for some reason). Would anyone be against me uploading replacement graphics.

Honestly accurate NES graphics as PNGs would be great and appreciated.
(This is the level that is talked about)

Okay, here they are. Feel free to use these for levels and whatnot that aren't related to TI3 as well.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/e9lop17eh16c8 ... s.zip?dl=0
Also, you can easily convert GIFs to PNGs via a tool included in PGE. It's under external tools.

I know that, but it can be tedious with recolors of vanilla graphics, as then the tool is not so useful.

[ShadowStarX]

Oh you think we've forgotten this?! You were wrong!

Anyways, two GIFs showcasing two levels by MrDoubleA, utilizing the difference between autorotate=true and autorotate=false:

Spoiler: show

Also, screenshots of World 1 and World 2 maps are available now:

Spoiler: show

Note: levels and other assets are subject to change. (in other words, we haven't forgotten the existence of ParalX2, as demonstrated in the 2nd GIF)

[Jumper]

Oh you think we've forgotten this?! You were wrong!

Anyways, two GIFs showcasing two levels by MrDoubleA, utilizing the difference between autorotate=true and autorotate=false:

Spoiler: show

Also, screenshots of World 1 and World 2 maps are available now:

Spoiler: show

Note: levels and other assets are subject to change. (in other words, we haven't forgotten the existence of ParalX2, as demonstrated in the 2nd GIF)

Just a couple questions: Is the Auto-Rotate Platforms Grey, and Manual-Rotate Platforms Brown? Or is it just aesthetics?

Liking the new World 1 and 2 maps so far.

[MECHDRAGON777]

World 2 reminds me of "The Great Empire". Specifically it's world 2. Curious how that ice map will be done.

[ShadowStarX]

Just a couple questions: Is the Auto-Rotate Platforms Grey, and Manual-Rotate Platforms Brown? Or is it just aesthetics?

They are indeed meant to be a differentiator.

Liking the new World 1 and 2 maps so far.

Thanks!

World 2 reminds me of "The Great Empire". Specifically it's world 2. Curious how that ice map will be done.

Huh I actually only noticed that after you pointed that out. Though a key difference is that in this one you go from the bottom to the top. (kinda meant to imitate Yoshi's Island and Donut Plains, minus the Donut Plains lake)

[MECHDRAGON777]

Do all worlds have four main levels? Also, four of the five levels of world 2 are secretive!?