Additions to the Staff / Staff Election

[MECHDRAGON777]

as303298 doesn't have a lot of activity here, to be honest.

as303298 deserves the spot though!

[aero]

as303298 doesn't have a lot of activity here, to be honest.

True, however I do believe he is qualified to hold the position if he wants to.

[MECHDRAGON777]

as303298 doesn't have a lot of activity here, to be honest.

True, however I do believe he is qualified to hold the position if he wants to.

At least someone argrees with me about him being of high command!

[Shadow Yoshi]

There is no need for confirming whether or not you're interested at this point. Obviously if you want to say you're interested, go ahead, but there's no requirement to. Once the nomination process is over I'll send a PM to everyone nominated asking whether or not they're interested.

Again, Reizenni, a staff position is something one would get after helping out a lot in the community in other ways. It's not something you just volunteer for with the purpose of helping out - I appreciate your desire to help, but a staff position isn't based solely on that.

[m4sterbr0s]

I'd like to nominate another person (if I can) for global moderator: Kley.

[Shadow Yoshi]

I'd support that.

[Danny]

How come he gets to nominate more than one person and we can't?

I'd rather not ask for reasoning.

[MECHDRAGON777]

I'd support that.

Does that mean I can also nominate Reizenni, or not because I nominated as303298 already?

[HeroOfRhyme]

Again, Reizenni, a staff position is something one would get after helping out a lot in the community in other ways. It's not something you just volunteer for with the purpose of helping out - I appreciate your desire to help, but a staff position isn't based solely on that.

But don't you see that I am going to be helping out quite a bit for future things? I plan on taking up that Level judge thing as well, maybe just sticking to that for now but still could use this as well. I understand what being staff is about. I've been staff multiple times elsewhere. I am glad you appreciate my desires, however there is also basing stuff off the future of the user as well. I actually think SMBX might be fun, after I get the hang of it. Don't worry, I wouldn't let you down on helping out.

I'd support that.

Does that mean I can also nominate Reizenni, or not because I nominated as303298 already?

You're an awesome dude.

[Shadow Yoshi]

Don't ever be afraid to ask questions.

I let that slide because so many other people had nominated Natsu.

[MECHDRAGON777]

Don't ever be afraid to ask questions.

I let that slide because so many other people had nominated Natsu.

So, Am I allowed to nominate a second person, and if the answer is yes, I nominate Reizenni

[Shadow Yoshi]

But don't you see that I am going to be helping out quite a bit for future things? I plan on taking up that Level judge thing as well, maybe just sticking to that for now but still could use this as well. I understand what being staff is about. I've been staff multiple times elsewhere. I am glad you appreciate my desires, however there is also basing stuff off the future of the user as well. I actually think SMBX might be fun, after I get the hang of it. Don't worry, I wouldn't let you down on helping out.

Forgive me, as I'm going to be blunt.

One doesn't just walk into a forum and apply for a staff position on their first day. That's just common forum etiquette - not only does it make you look like you just want power, but most of the time the forum doesn't operate like that in the first place. Not to mention the fact that you have barely touched SMBX. Like I said, it's great you want to help out, but you don't need a forum staff position to do that. It's good to know you have staff experience elsewhere, but that doesn't help the fact that you're not really a part of this community yet and it wouldn't make sense to give you a staff position. Sure, staff promotions involve looking to the future, and it's great that you want to have a future in this community, but we can't use that as a base. The base has to be what you've done in the past - and you've done nothing, since you joined 10 hours ago.

[sleepy]

But don't you see that I am going to be helping out quite a bit for future things? I plan on taking up that Level judge thing as well, maybe just sticking to that for now but still could use this as well. I understand what being staff is about. I've been staff multiple times elsewhere. I am glad you appreciate my desires, however there is also basing stuff off the future of the user as well. I actually think SMBX might be fun, after I get the hang of it. Don't worry, I wouldn't let you down on helping out.

Forgive me, as I'm going to be blunt.

One doesn't just walk into a forum and apply for a staff position on their first day. That's just common forum etiquette - not only does it make you look like you just want power, but most of the time the forum doesn't operate like that in the first place. Not to mention the fact that you have barely touched SMBX. Like I said, it's great you want to help out, but you don't need a forum staff position to do that. It's good to know you have staff experience elsewhere, but that doesn't help the fact that you're not really a part of this community yet and it wouldn't make sense to give you a staff position. Sure, staff promotions involve looking to the future, and it's great that you want to have a future in this community, but we can't use that as a base. The base has to be what you've done in the past - and you've done nothing, since you joined 10 hours ago.

I highly doubt he joined just to ask to be staff.

Me and reghrhre just invited him to come here, and he happened to join today- the day there is a global moderator position open. It's just a coincidence, if you ask me.

[FutureNyanCat]

Bossedit8 made himself a good moderator on the Knux Forums, so I elect for bossedit8.

[MECHDRAGON777]

But don't you see that I am going to be helping out quite a bit for future things? I plan on taking up that Level judge thing as well, maybe just sticking to that for now but still could use this as well. I understand what being staff is about. I've been staff multiple times elsewhere. I am glad you appreciate my desires, however there is also basing stuff off the future of the user as well. I actually think SMBX might be fun, after I get the hang of it. Don't worry, I wouldn't let you down on helping out.

Forgive me, as I'm going to be blunt.

One doesn't just walk into a forum and apply for a staff position on their first day. That's just common forum etiquette - not only does it make you look like you just want power, but most of the time the forum doesn't operate like that in the first place. Not to mention the fact that you have barely touched SMBX. Like I said, it's great you want to help out, but you don't need a forum staff position to do that. It's good to know you have staff experience elsewhere, but that doesn't help the fact that you're not really a part of this community yet and it wouldn't make sense to give you a staff position. Sure, staff promotions involve looking to the future, and it's great that you want to have a future in this community, but we can't use that as a base. The base has to be what you've done in the past - and you've done nothing, since you joined 10 hours ago.

I highly doubt he joined just to ask to be staff.

Me and reghrhre just invited him to come here, and he happened to join today- the day there is a global moderator position open. It's just a coincidence, if you ask me.

I doubt it helps I am trying to nominate Reizenni as well! Even though I already nominated as303298

[HeroOfRhyme]

So you think that just because I joined a mere 10 hours ago that I'm not qualified enough for the position? Sir, may I tell you right now that no matter what, new or old, every user is equal and should be qualified enough to make the cut. I understand what you're going about, and all. But seriously, everyone deserves a fair shot. I may have just joined, and you caught me in a great mood. I don't like what I'm seeing here though. Honestly the idea for letting normal users is unfair because many users will just vote for the same person, over and over and over again. I do agree about letting the userbase decide on something, however in the case of staff electing, that should solemnly be the staffs decision. As sleepy says, this is basically going by who is liked most, and not by experience or what's best for the board. It's basically just a huge popularity contest. Please reconsider. I'm not one for arguing, especially with staff, but this is just simply outrageous.

[Shadow Yoshi]

I highly doubt he joined just to ask to be staff.

Me and reghrhre just invited him to come here, and he happened to join today- the day there is a global moderator position open. It's just a coincidence, if you ask me.

I didn't say that he joined just to be staff. He joined a few hours before I even had the idea of an election.

So you think that just because I joined a mere 10 hours ago that I'm not qualified enough for the position?

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.

Sir, may I tell you right now that no matter what, new or old, every user is equal and should be qualified enough to make the cut. I understand what you're going about, and all. But seriously, everyone deserves a fair shot. I may have just joined, and you caught me in a great mood. I don't like what I'm seeing here though. Honestly the idea for letting normal users is unfair because many users will just vote for the same person, over and over and over again. I do agree about letting the userbase decide on something, however in the case of staff electing, that should solemnly be the staffs decision.

You're incriminating yourself here. If you genuinely cared about helping this community and contributing to it, you would've read what I said three times about not having to have a staff position to do that. The more you push this, the more it looks like you just want a staff position.

As sleepy says, this is basically going by who is liked most, and not by experience or what's best for the board.

You've been here for 10 hours. I'm sorry, but you don't know what's best for the board.

It's basically just a huge popularity contest. Please reconsider. I'm not one for arguing, especially with staff, but this is just simply outrageous.

I've kept quiet about this, but it's not as much of a popularity contest as it looks. There are people on that list who I really, really don't want as staff members, and the admin team will likely intervene and make a final decision should one of these people win the election.

[HeroOfRhyme]

So you think that just because I joined a mere 10 hours ago that I'm not qualified enough for the position?

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.

That's so biased, you don't even know.

Sir, may I tell you right now that no matter what, new or old, every user is equal and should be qualified enough to make the cut. I understand what you're going about, and all. But seriously, everyone deserves a fair shot. I may have just joined, and you caught me in a great mood. I don't like what I'm seeing here though. Honestly the idea for letting normal users is unfair because many users will just vote for the same person, over and over and over again. I do agree about letting the userbase decide on something, however in the case of staff electing, that should solemnly be the staffs decision.

You're incriminating yourself here. If you genuinely cared about helping this community and contributing to it, you would've read what I said three times about not having to have a staff position to do that. The more you push this, the more it looks like you just want a staff position.

The more you push this as well, the more it looks bad on you. You're the one who told me to contribute, the fact that I am trying to take advantage of every opportunity I get and you're basically shutting me off of this one. That's a really bad reflection on you.

As sleepy says, this is basically going by who is liked most, and not by experience or what's best for the board.

You've been here for 10 hours. I'm sorry, but you don't know what's best for the board.

I'm going to be upfront here. Obviously neither do you. You're the one hosting this election, and if you knew what's best for the board then what would be the point of this? (I had way more than this said but, silly laptop overwrote it.)

It's basically just a huge popularity contest. Please reconsider. I'm not one for arguing, especially with staff, but this is just simply outrageous.

IThere are people on that list who I really, really don't want as staff members, and the admin team will likely intervene and make a final decision should one of these people win the election.

What the fuck does that matter? Being staff is about being a team and working together, especially overcoming hatred of people to be a team. Please enlighten me more on these people. I would love to hear the reasons why they also shouldn't be staff.

[MECHDRAGON777]

So you think that just because I joined a mere 10 hours ago that I'm not qualified enough for the position?

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.

That's so biased, you don't even know.

Sir, may I tell you right now that no matter what, new or old, every user is equal and should be qualified enough to make the cut. I understand what you're going about, and all. But seriously, everyone deserves a fair shot. I may have just joined, and you caught me in a great mood. I don't like what I'm seeing here though. Honestly the idea for letting normal users is unfair because many users will just vote for the same person, over and over and over again. I do agree about letting the userbase decide on something, however in the case of staff electing, that should solemnly be the staffs decision.

You're incriminating yourself here. If you genuinely cared about helping this community and contributing to it, you would've read what I said three times about not having to have a staff position to do that. The more you push this, the more it looks like you just want a staff position.

The more you push this as well, the more it looks bad on you. You're the one who told me to contribute, the fact that I am trying to take advantage of every opportunity I get and you're basically shutting me off of this one. That's a really bad reflection on you.

As sleepy says, this is basically going by who is liked most, and not by experience or what's best for the board.

You've been here for 10 hours. I'm sorry, but you don't know what's best for the board.

I'm going to be upfront here. Obviously neither do you. You're the one hosting this election, and if you knew what's best for the board then what would be the point of this? (I had way more than this said but, silly laptop overwrote it.)

It's basically just a huge popularity contest. Please reconsider. I'm not one for arguing, especially with staff, but this is just simply outrageous.

IThere are people on that list who I really, really don't want as staff members, and the admin team will likely intervene and make a final decision should one of these people win the election.

What the **** does that matter? Being staff is about being a team and working together, especially overcoming hatred of people to be a team. Please enlighten me more on these people. I would love to hear the reasons why they also shouldn't be staff.

I also want to know who those people are!

[aero]

I also want to know who those people are!

Earlier in IRC: <Joey> i'm not going to say who.

This would only cause issues since the entire staff team may not find all of these nominees to be suitable for the position. To address Reizenni, yes it may seem unfair not to be treated as equal with the other members however, there are other users who have been with the community longer who have been able to demonstrate themselves suitable for the Global Moderator position, through assistance, abiding by the rules, constructiveness, and activity which can't be shown within 10 hours. That's not to say you will never be granted with the opportunity to become part of the staff, so I wouldn't take Joey's disapproval so heavily as you can always stay and contribute to the community, making you a much better candidate in the future.