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What do you think about this?

Postby silent_ » Sat May 17, 2014 1:17 pm

All right, this thread is about profanity, why profanity can be bad and good, and what profanity children should say and adults even shouldn't.

Anyway, there are some parents that don't even allow their kid say fart, pee, or butt. There are some who allow a child to walk up to a stranger and call them fat *insert insult here*. There are some who allow children to only say curse words in front of their mom and dad. I don't agree with any of these parents. I personally think an adult calling someone an idiot or retard is worse than a two year old stubbing his/her toe and dropping the F-bomb. Why? There are a few reasons. Most of all, I always wondered why you can give a word such power. The only terms I think have power are words to criticize or insult someone, as they can embarrass or offend another. For instance, calling someone a "n*****" is just awful, even as a joke. However, even if I think a two year old can stub their toe and dropping the F-bomb, I think it kind of sets a bad example for that particular child's future. Just like drugs, cursing is an addiction, and cursing can even land you in jail or prison (look up, "Can cursing send you to jail?" on Google if you're skeptical about this). Regardless, the moral of this thread is that you should never insult someone with profanity (this is directed towards adults even saying "idiot" and "retard"), but you should either say a word that is non-insulting to yourself (or whisper/murmur it), and you can say it out loud in front of other adult, but refrain from saying insults to ANYBODY, ANYWHERE in front of your child or anybody else. As said before, though, you could even drop the F-bomb in front of a juvenile, as long as it isn't insulting someone.

To conclude this up, take note when I say "as long as it isn't insulting," I'm talking about insulting a human and a human only. There is nothing wrong with calling Mario Kart Wii a hell hole, or even insulting an animal (as long as your insults don't get physical).

Debate and discuss, please.
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Re: What do you think about this?

Postby Danny » Sat May 17, 2014 1:53 pm

Kep wrote:However, even if I think a two year old can stub their toe and say the F-bomb, I think it kind of sets a bad example for that particular child's future.
How does saying a word that was somehow deemed as a "swear" or "curse" set a bad example for a child's future? Sure I may have swore a lot now and when I was younger, but I got that from my mother, and in the right situation, it's perfectly fine to swear. (Joey has stated this before, most of us here are mature adults, and we can handle swearing) Also, I dislike how you keep referencing to the word "fuck" as "saying the F-bomb", because you're completely missing the actual definition of the phrase. It's commonly known as "dropping the F-bomb", and it's used as a friendlier response than to saying somebody said the word "fuck".
Just like drugs, cursing is an addiction, and cursing can even land you in jail or prison (look up, "Can cursing send you to jail?" if you're skeptical about this).
Drugs are mostly addictive if you try it more than once and you actually enjoy it, there is something called self control that can actually stop people from getting addicted to drugs. "Okay, I tried this once, but it won't be good for me. I should understand this." You can't get addicted to swearing, it makes no sense. I also went to look up "Can cursing send you to jail?", and what I got was corrections to "Can cursing send you to hell?" and a bunch of questions from Yahoo Answers, all of them pointing to the same answer, that being "No". As far as I'm aware, cursing can't send you to jail, as it has no physical effect on somebody, and it shouldn't mentally either unless the person is bullying you.

See, if I went out into the public, dropped my expensive phone on the ground, and slipped a swear out, let's say I "dropped the F-Bomb" in this situation, would everybody scream, point at me, and call the police to send me off to prison? No, because it's just a word that people have deemed as "unruly and disrespectful".
I really think I brought up a good point, and could see this getting continuous activity. Debate, praise, reply, agree, disagree - do whatever a typical user would on a topic like this, just keep your discussions civil, please.
This is the first time that I've seen somebody on this forum as for a thread to get continuous activity such as debate, praise, reply, agree, and disagree. What do you mean by "typical" user? And you're asking a forum full of little kids and teenagers to keep the discussions civil, yeah, good luck with that buddy.

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Re: What do you think about this?

Postby silent_ » Sat May 17, 2014 2:28 pm

8bitmushroom wrote:How does saying a word that was somehow deemed as a "swear" or "curse" set a bad example for a child's future?
Because they think it's all right to swear and insult all the time when they get older.
8bitmushroom wrote:You can't get addicted to swearing, it makes no sense.
...Well, it makes perfect sense, if you get addicted to swearing you swear all the time.
8bitmushroom wrote:What do you mean by "typical" user?
I admit that was somewhat poor word choice, but it still makes sense if you look up "define typical" on Google and look at the first two definitions on the online dictionary.

No offense, but the first two questions stated above were common sense and useless to ask. Also, I wouldn't recommend you using Yahoo Answers, look up can swearing send you to jail on Google.

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Re: What do you think about this?

Postby sleepy » Sat May 17, 2014 2:31 pm

Simple answer: because their parents are morons.

/case closed

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Re: What do you think about this?

Postby HeroOfRhyme » Sat May 17, 2014 2:33 pm

fuck this fucking shit I'm going the fuck home and fucking my girlfriend in her fucking asshole.


No but in all seriousness, I see no problems with swearing. I swear like a sailor, not on purpose. It just happens. It's my way of letting out my emotion. Better than cutting myself or something stupid like that.

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Re: What do you think about this?

Postby Shadow Yoshi » Sat May 17, 2014 2:34 pm

8bitmushroom wrote:most of us here are mature adults
I may have said users here should be able to handle swearing, but I never said that.

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Re: What do you think about this?

Postby silent_ » Sat May 17, 2014 2:43 pm

sleepy wrote:Simple answer: because their parents are morons.

/case closed
This actually has NOTHING to do with the thread, parents hardly have anything to with this, unless you count the first three sentences of the second paragraph in this thread.

I initially thought it was crazy that 8bitmushroom said, "Most of us here are mature adults". However, there's probably quite a bit of adults here, don't get me wrong, but most of them aren't really that... eh... mature, I guess. It's good to clarify that Joey didn't mention this, though. I'm eager to know where 8bitmushroom got this from.

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Re: What do you think about this?

Postby aero » Sat May 17, 2014 2:50 pm

When it comes to swearing, I believe George Carlin said it best: "They are only words. It's the context that counts." Also, it isn't an addiction, but more of a habit if anything. I don't swear around my family, and often online, but I do with my friends because that's just how we talk.


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Re: What do you think about this?

Postby Danny » Sat May 17, 2014 3:02 pm

Joey wrote:
8bitmushroom wrote:most of us here are mature adults
I may have said users here should be able to handle swearing, but I never said that.
I'm fairly certain somewhere at some point you said something like that a while ago, I don't remember where, but I remember you saying it.
Kep wrote:Because they think it's all right to swear and insult all the time when they get older.
No...? That may be your way of thinking, but that doesn't necessarily mean that's the truth.
Kep wrote:...Well, it makes perfect sense, if you get addicted to swearing you swear all the time.
You can't logically get addicted to swearing. You may have a habit of swearing, but you can't get addicted to it.

[quote="Kep]No offense, but the first two questions stated above were common sense and useless to ask. Also, I wouldn't recommend you using Yahoo Answers, look up can swearing send you to jail on Google.[/quote]

How are they common sense and useless to ask? You have a fucked up form of common sense if that's what you're getting at. Also, who the hell uses Yahoo Answers to look up things? You must not have comprehended what I had said. I said I looked "Can swearing send you to jail?", I didn't specify what search engine I used, because I'm fairly certain that most people on the Internet use Google to search for things in the first place. The results that came up in my search were the corrections to "Can swearing send you to hell?" and all of the results from Yahoo Answers (I think I saw some from Ask.com as well).
Kep wrote:This actually has NOTHING to do with the thread, parents hardly have anything to with this, unless you count the first three sentences of the second paragraph in this thread.
Uh, actually, where do you think the kids learn the swears from? The Internet? The Media? No, they initially learn it from their parents, that's where I learned it, that's where my mother learned it, and that is where my children will pretty much learn it. I don't think blaming some sort of anything will do you any good. Blame the parents.

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Re: What do you think about this?

Postby Megar » Sat May 17, 2014 3:05 pm

this discussion tho
fucking hilarious

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Re: What do you think about this?

Postby silent_ » Sat May 17, 2014 3:09 pm

8bitmushroom wrote:The results that came up in my search were the corrections to "Can swearing send you to hell?"
i guess lets do this the hard way

-Go to Google Search
-Look up, "Can swearing send you to jail?"
-Press enter
-Ignore the corrections (what corrections are you even talking about?)
-There will be results, trust me

If it still doesn't work, than there's something wrong with your Google.

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Re: What do you think about this?

Postby Julia Pseudo » Sat May 17, 2014 3:21 pm

George Carlin is right. The context is all that fucking counts.

8bit is also right. You can't get addicted to cursing, they're just words. It'd be like saying that you get "addicted" to saying hello when someone enters the room. It's just the way you talk. Maybe you can say it too much, but it's just habitual speech patterns, not a fucking addiction.

Seriously though, as Reizenni said, cursing is a method of fucking stress release. It doesn't hurt anyone. The only time I take issue to cursing is if that word is associated with a specific group of some kind (such as using "fag" or the n-word as an insult). The problem with that is that you're associating that group with negativity. Words like fuck or shit are fine because they don't refer to people. They can't hurt anyone, even emotionally, and if you are hurt emotionally by words like those there's not really any rational justification for that. Words are just words.

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Re: What do you think about this?

Postby sleepy » Sat May 17, 2014 3:46 pm

Pseudo-dino wrote:George Carlin is right. The context is all that fucking counts.

8bit is also right. You can't get addicted to cursing, they're just words. It'd be like saying that you get "addicted" to saying hello when someone enters the room. It's just the way you talk. Maybe you can say it too much, but it's just habitual speech patterns, not a fucking addiction.

Seriously though, as Reizenni said, cursing is a method of fucking stress release. It doesn't hurt anyone. The only time I take issue to cursing is if that word is associated with a specific group of some kind (such as using "fag" or the n-word as an insult). The problem with that is that you're associating that group with negativity. Words like fuck or shit are fine because they don't refer to people. They can't hurt anyone, even emotionally, and if you are hurt emotionally by words like those there's not really any rational justification for that. Words are just words.
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Re: What do you think about this?

Postby HeroOfRhyme » Sat May 17, 2014 4:42 pm

sleepy wrote:
Pseudo-dino wrote:George Carlin is right. The context is all that fucking counts.

8bit is also right. You can't get addicted to cursing, they're just words. It'd be like saying that you get "addicted" to saying hello when someone enters the room. It's just the way you talk. Maybe you can say it too much, but it's just habitual speech patterns, not a fucking addiction.

Seriously though, as Reizenni said, cursing is a method of fucking stress release. It doesn't hurt anyone. The only time I take issue to cursing is if that word is associated with a specific group of some kind (such as using "fag" or the n-word as an insult). The problem with that is that you're associating that group with negativity. Words like fuck or shit are fine because they don't refer to people. They can't hurt anyone, even emotionally, and if you are hurt emotionally by words like those there's not really any rational justification for that. Words are just words.
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+2 for agreeing with me.

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Re: What do you think about this?

Postby Fuyu » Sat May 17, 2014 5:09 pm

So, after reading throughout all the posts, I have to say that from all the people that posted here I agree with ... George Carlin! In other words, 8bit.

Let's see what has been said here, overall in the main post. Kep said that the kid listens all kind of words related to what we categorize "swearing" or "insulting". But then again, it's ok to do it from time to time and in the right context. I'm about to say something that may trigger a series of disagreement between a lot of people if they'd see this, but what the old generation used to consider "bad words" or "bad influence by swearing" is wrong. All that matters is the treatment the parents give to their children, everything else is beside the point.

My mother and father used to swear a lot, and honestly it was because of me as I was a hell of a child, but it ain't my fault, I was a child after all. The point here is that because of this they did swear a lot, but because they were tired of my attitude and my ignorance. Summarizing, what would mostly affect the children is the context the parents employ their words.

Who's fault aside, even if people get used to swearing, saying that they get "addicted" isn't right either. An addiction is something that hurts you, you may know or not that hurts you, and yet you keep doing/consuming it (such as being too much on your PC, smoking too much, and the most common example, drugs). Swearing doesn't affect your health on any way, and definitely, there's no way it may send you to jail. I won't search for something on google as many things you find on the Internet are often jokes, and I wouldn't be surprised to find something that may have convinced you.

So, hope you liked my thoughts, and my disagreement on your thoughts. It's ok to care about this topic though, I respect you.

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Re: What do you think about this?

Postby Magician » Sun May 18, 2014 2:23 am

I like your little fuckings, Pseudo.

I also just like the sound of me saying that.

Generally speaking my concern lies more with people whom are triggered by references to violence or oppression than those who are "offended" by petty words and I think people often mistake those two things.

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Re: What do you think about this?

Postby Julia Pseudo » Sun May 18, 2014 3:12 am

Magician wrote:I like your little fuckings, Pseudo.

I also just like the sound of me saying that.

Generally speaking my concern lies more with people whom are triggered by references to violence or oppression than those who are "offended" by petty words and I think people often mistake those two things.
I absolutely agree with this and this is essentially what I was trying to get across in my first post.

Also thanks heh heh.


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