Level Contest 7 - Topic 2 - THE WINNER

[Valtteri]

Dropping castlewars's review on Sick Ass Swamp Romp is being considered.

[Beyond]

The justice will prevail!

[Darkonius Mavakar]

Dropping castlewars's review on Sick Ass Swamp Romp is being considered.

ace will have justice!

[SuperWingedYoshi]

Dropping castlewars's review on Sick Ass Swamp Romp is being considered.

That won't do, I guess. He has done mistakes in other reviews, too. Just take my complaint about his review on my level: http://www.supermariobrosx.org/forums/v ... =69#p25499

[zlaker]

Dropping castlewars's review on Sick Ass Swamp Romp is being considered.

That won't do, I guess. He has done mistakes in other reviews, too. Just take my complaint about his review on my level: http://www.supermariobrosx.org/forums/v ... =69#p25499

But all of the judges enjoyed Ace's level and he could've won the contest without the review.

[Enjl]

we might aswell drop every review by castlewars
then we might aswell drop every review and declare everyone the winner

[Cheez]

Um, while I don't really want to gang up on him or anything, I also support the idea of having castlewars properly explain his score if he wants it to count. That level sounds good from the other reviews, and... Well, at the very least, castlewars's reviews aren't always exactly clear. I mean, I can accept that the score I got from him was low since I made the sort of level that I'm aware isn't for everybody, but at one point it seemed as if one of his major complaints was that I implemented an obstacle that required ducking. So... um. Yes. At the very least, he is hilariously vague in his reviews, and that is actually an objectively bad trait for a reviewer, and it would be nice if he could at least remedy that.

I'm fine with letting opinions be opinions but I personally expect them to be justified, basically.

[SuperWingedYoshi]

Dropping castlewars's review on Sick Ass Swamp Romp is being considered.

That won't do, I guess. He has done mistakes in other reviews, too. Just take my complaint about his review on my level: http://www.supermariobrosx.org/forums/v ... =69#p25499

But all of the judges enjoyed Ace's level and he could've won the contest without the review.

I never said castlewars's review of Ace's level should be kept. Of course I feel like the score he gave that level is way too low. I just mentioned that Ace's level isn't the only level where castlewars's review has mistakes. I'd say that every review he has written should be questioned.

[sleepy]

we might aswell drop every review by castlewars

agree

[TLtimelord]

I can't imagine my level being THAT good. Top 10?

By the way, are we seriously going to drop castlewars' review because his opinion keeps someone from winning the contest? Are we seriously going to pull a bullshit thing like that again?

[zlaker]

we might aswell drop every review by castlewars

agree

> Drop castlewars reviews
> Finds out castlewars' review helped him to get a better score :3

[Raster]

Dropping castlewars's review on Sick Ass Swamp Romp is being considered.

If you're going to do that just remove all of his reviews. It would be unfair. Keeping the review and never hiring him again is what I think you should do.

[Enjl]

we might aswell drop every review by castlewars

agree

I don't agree. I was just trying to boost your discussion.
Castlewars was a judge when this started, he's gonna stay one. No exceptions. We'll just not consider him next time, k?
Beside, top 20 is already really freaking good. You could consider everyone in there a winner. It always comes down to nitpicks and personal bias.

[Yoshibrothers]

Congrats to Bomber57 and TNTtimelord for making the top 10! Also, a shout out to Emral as well.

No shoutout to me ;_;

castlewars guess thing: 2/3 + 1/5 = 3/8 Wow, look at me add, looks like I raised good!!!1

Man, the competition for 1st place is intense, I can see almost everyone in the top 10 reaching it. Good luck everyone else, even though that's stupid to say since I'm gonna win anyways. (inb4 I'm in 10th place)

Dude, of course I support you and stuff, but you won like, one or two already.

[Sux]

Yeah, I'm in top 10 with my best friend.
Good Luck for everyone,I'm feeling than are really fantastic level on tier 6 and that's will be a well balanced dispute...except for reghrhre, because she'll win this shit

[Ignoritus]

The issue is that even if many may disagree with castlewar's discretion in general, the reasoning behind his score on Sick Ass Swomp Romp in particular was meaningless and unjustified. The only cases in which we have ever had Exemption Votes are cases where:

1. The review has a severe negative impact on placement
2. The review fails to justify the reasoning behind its score

Like Kyo's review of as303298's level a couple of contests ago where he scored it lower than some joke levels because it made him rage (which was incredibly evident in the language of his review), or SuperMario7's review where he dropped Wind's level from first on account of it lagging for him. Castlewar's review had a severe negative impact on Ace, and he gave no justification for the score except "this is a joke and joke levels are satan" and "I am punished for platforming badly in a platformer game".

[Ace]

Wow. The reason I took so long to reply because I read the review this morning and it literally gave me cancer.
Although I think the review is unfair, it's also incredibly biased of me to say it should be removed. I will say though, that aside from castlewar's review, I'm fairly happy with how I did. I understand that others might have been somewhat negatively affected by castlewar's reviews, but from what i can tell, castlewars justified most of his other deductions to some extent (granted, I've hardly read even half of his reviews). However, claiming my level was a joke level(????????????????) and deducting points because of swearing (which isn't pointless swearing; toad literally tried to kill mario, then lied about it to his face) feels unjustified to me.
I'll let the judges decide what they think is right.

[silent_]

I'm going to leave some constructive criticism for ALL of the judges, not just castlewars who seems to be, according to most users here, automatically the worst reviewer here. He actually isn't that bad, and was generous on most occasions (just look at the score he gave to my level? Astonishing. Even higher than most of the tier five scores). If I have to be frank, I'd say Valterri needs the most improvement with his reviews - not that that's a bad thing, though, I guess. I'll explain why; well, there's not much to say to you other than your reviews are incredibly short. You didn't explain anything, and you in a nutshell was, "Nice level, but it had its flaws here and there. 4/10." Not saying that you were that ungenerous with scoring, I was just giving an instance. To Chad, your reviews were constructive, and you distributed a lot of criticism to the contest levels - you were a bit ungenerous here and there, but I don't see anything biased. Nice work. Firespike33, you're a bit strict with your scores, I must say. Castlewars, you're a horrible reviewer since you use the words "particularly and despite" too much - nah; anyway, some of your reviews got ridiculously low scores; I see no other problem with your reviewing skills, fortunately.

This should be a bit helpful if any of these judges get hired to judge the next community contest.

[Kyo]

I personally don't agree with deleting castlewars' reviews, and definitely not all of them. Sure, his review kept a level from getting a high place, a level that had potential on winning the entire thing, but I wouldn't consider a 5,5 out of 10 a bad score. He actually likes Ace's level more than he dislikes it, even if his review doesn't look like it. I wouldn't say my review on asnumber's level is a good comparison, because I rated it 3 out of 20 and castlewars 5,5 out of 10, which is almost four times as high as my score. If we remove castlewars' review, might as well remove any other review that has a three-score difference to the other judges, such as Quill's review on Easy Road, or Firespike33's review on Forest Chase or Für TKcheisu, or Valtteri's review on Another Castle Level, but that's just stupid for obvious reasons, and removing all of castlewars' reviews because of one review isn't even a controversial issue. It's just downright idiotic.

dude the toughest part is defeating me obv.

That is not right in the slightest...

Prepared to the next Tier

challenge accepted, although I clearly was being sarcastic in the previous post.

Sorry bossedit, but Emral just smashed you to ground with this and the results.

Good luck everyone else, even though that's stupid to say since I'm gonna win anyways. (inb4 I'm in 10th place)

If that happens, I'll spam you with "ROFL" massages on Skype until your last day of life.

[Ace]

I'm going to leave some constructive criticism for ALL of the judges, not just castlewars who seems to be, according to most users here, automatically the worst reviewer here. He actually isn't that bad, and was generous on most occasions (just look at the score he gave to my level? Astonishing. Even higher than most of the tier five scores). If I have to be frank, I'd say Valterri needs the most improvement with his reviews - not that that's a bad thing, though, I guess. I'll explain why; well, there's not much to say to you other than your reviews are incredibly short. You didn't explain anything, and you in a nutshell was, "Nice level, but it had its flaws here and there. 4/10." Not saying that you were that ungenerous with scoring, I was just giving an instance. To Chad, your reviews were constructive, and you distributed a lot of criticism to the contest levels - you were a bit ungenerous here and there, but I don't see anything biased. Nice work. Firespike33, you're a bit strict with your scores, I must say. Castlewars, you're a horrible reviewer since you use the words "particularly and despite" too much - nah; anyway, some of your reviews got ridiculously low scores; I see no other problem with your reviewing skills, fortunately.

This should be a bit helpful if any of these judges get hired to judge the next community contest.

1. Being generous isn't necessarily good. In fact, it's a bad thing when at the same time he gives other levels 5.5s for reasons like "swearing" and "it's clearly a joke level". It makes his reviews incredibly unbalanced and just fucks up the entire competition.
2. Scoring your level in particular highly literally says nothing about his judging skills.
3. I don't know why you're criticizing the other judges when they aren't part of the problem.