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Can we please discuss why Water + Lava should be a thing

Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 10:37 am
by Vinyl Scratch
1. Underwater Volcanoes - Yes, these do fucking exist, Google search it yourself
2. Hawaii - Its a bunch of Volcanoes on a tropical island

Re: Can we please discuss why Water + Lava should be a thing

Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 10:54 am
by bossedit8
Yeah, Lava + Magma/Lava is normally not that senseful to a Mario Game but once we/you are thinking about that, maybe we get more ideas like Lava and Water playing together and actually look good. No idea if Ice and Lava works too because Super Mario Galaxy (2) had that.

Re: Can we please discuss why Water + Lava should be a thing

Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 12:48 pm
by Chad
Those are fair points. I'm picturing a volcanic underwater level now, and I don't think it'd look bad actually, especially if the tilesets/background/etc. looked somewhat burned.

Re: Can we please discuss why Water + Lava should be a thing

Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 1:00 pm
by Mable
Newer had this aswell in World 5 the Freezeflame one where it had a Ice cave with lava. So if mixing both together in a sense way it makes a good thing.

Re: Can we please discuss why Water + Lava should be a thing

Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 1:05 pm
by zlaker
I was also wondering why no one has done this kind of level so I decided to make a lava ice level. Image

Re: Can we please discuss why Water + Lava should be a thing

Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 1:20 pm
by Emral
zlakerboy357 wrote:I was also wondering why no one has done this kind of level so I decided to make a lava ice level. Image
because ice melts at 0°C, duh!

Also, cutoff in the upper right corner. 66/100 for some reason.

Re: Can we please discuss why Water + Lava should be a thing

Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 1:36 pm
by bossedit8
Jokes are getting really old. Seriously.

@zlakerboy357: This looks nice actually. I really like how you used it.


Maybe we should do make more levels like this...

Re: Can we please discuss why Water + Lava should be a thing

Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 2:43 pm
by WindyDelcarlo
Lava and Ice together are done in other games too; in addition to SMG2, the Freezeflame Galaxy in the original Super Mario Galaxy was fire and ice.

Re: Can we please discuss why Water + Lava should be a thing

Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 2:52 pm
by bossedit8
WindyDelcarlo wrote:Lava and Ice together are done in other games too; in addition to SMG2, the Freezeflame Galaxy in the original Super Mario Galaxy was fire and ice.
Yeah, something like that but what is with Water + Lava? This will be interesting for a Level instead of just Ice + Lava.

Re: Can we please discuss why Water + Lava should be a thing

Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 3:21 pm
by WindyDelcarlo
I think water-lava relations would be an interesting thing to explore. My MTG guild explores it, why can't SMBX?

Re: Can we please discuss why Water + Lava should be a thing

Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 10:13 pm
by bossedit8
WindyDelcarlo wrote:I think water-lava relations would be an interesting thing to explore. My MTG guild explores it, why can't SMBX?
SMBX also can add everything graphic-based and NPC's that it has a lot of variety to make a Water + Lava based Level without fear to have and actually look good like what @zlakerboy357 showed to us.

Re: Can we please discuss why Water + Lava should be a thing

Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 11:56 pm
by Danny
I thought this was about Water + Lava, not Ice + Lava...?

There's nothing wrong with Water + Lava, it's actually a really nice concept, and I used it in my level.

Re: Can we please discuss why Water + Lava should be a thing

Posted: Sun May 04, 2014 12:15 am
by bossedit8
Syndrilevosse wrote:I thought this was about Water + Lava, not Ice + Lava...?
Yeah, I was thinking about that too around on this posts.

I also made a Level that has Water and Lava in it but that is a old one, sadly...

Re: Can we please discuss why Water + Lava should be a thing

Posted: Sun May 04, 2014 12:33 am
by WindyDelcarlo
I think I probably need to be a bit better at making levels first before trying.

Re: Can we please discuss why Water + Lava should be a thing

Posted: Sun May 04, 2014 12:36 am
by bossedit8
WindyDelcarlo wrote:I think I probably need to be a bit better at making levels first before trying.
Do not worry, you have like a lot of time to create a contructive Level that has a Gimmick like that where Water + Lava is involved.

Re: Can we please discuss why Water + Lava should be a thing

Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 1:08 am
by FutureNyanCat
"F*ck you Einstein! Let's make a level with water + lava!"

It sounds like a cool idea. As Lava boils water into Steam, this can possibly make a cool gimmick when you have to activate smoke sensors to advance.

Re: Can we please discuss why Water + Lava should be a thing

Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 2:36 am
by WindyDelcarlo
Is there a way to make boiling water that gradually hurts Mario? For example, like the freezing water in SM64's Snowman's Land or one level in Newer Super Mario Bros Wii

Re: Can we please discuss why Water + Lava should be a thing

Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 2:44 am
by Chad
WindyDelcarlo wrote:Is there a way to make boiling water that gradually hurts Mario?
Yeah, you can take an unmoving, immortal NPC (donut block, conveyor belt, SMB2 stackable mushroom block with nogravity, etc.) and apply a bunch of NPC codes to it. Playerblock/top=0, npcblock/top=0, nohurt=0, jumphurt=1, (grabtop/side=0 in the case of mushroom blocks, etc.) and then just place them in the water. Jumphurt makes it impossible for donut blocks to fall or conveyors to push, so they work pretty well in recreating basic hurt fields, and you can still swim in them.