M40: The Last Mafia - Mafia Wins

underFlo · Postby **underFlo** » Sat May 27, 2017 4:50 am

it's not about knowing who gets roleblocked but that a townie has no business asking such things.

Thehelmetguy1 · Postby **Thehelmetguy1** » Sat May 27, 2017 4:58 am

Spinda could be the disguiser, however the only way to find it out is to risk it and bite the bullet. I would say it is safer to lynch SSX, but I would like to hear his defense first.

Postby **glitch4** » Sat May 27, 2017 11:02 am

Just read ZM's post. It made me think Noodle is not that innocent anymore, since he doesn't act that much and posts wayy less. I'm also aiming at Spinda and SSX, since they may hide something from us.

Doesntpostverymuch · Postby **Doesntpostverymuch** » Sat May 27, 2017 11:07 am

i'm not really seeing what you're talking about, but that might just be me being stupid

Postby **glitch4** » Sat May 27, 2017 12:18 pm

Doesntpostverymuch wrote:i'm not really seeing what you're talking about, but that might just be me being stupid

It could be much easier to figure out if you add your opinion here

Postby **glitch4** » Sat May 27, 2017 12:19 pm

by opinion, I mean what do you think of suspicions that ZM has found

Postby **Noodle** » Sat May 27, 2017 12:26 pm

Pseudo has been ripping the space time continuum, they swapped between night and day at midnight. Night is supossed to be 8:00 PM Eastern and Day is supposed to be 5:00 AM Eastern.

Postby **ShadowStarX** » Sat May 27, 2017 12:28 pm

So, just to clarify the happenings and my acting:
When I came up with the idea, I haven't really thought about the drawbacks of it in time and I've only seen the advantages of it. I would also have tried to roleblock these people in order:
N2 - Noodle
N3 - Uzendayo (since he and Noodle are newbies)
N4 - Doesntpostverymuch
Since I believe that they would be the ones who'd randomly reveal themselves to a random player, but now I see that ZM made the whole thing up just to have the ability of revealing red inspections.

True there is also the fact that one of those three could be mafia which would narrow down the possibilites, I know that. But I'm p. sure that the mafiosi would also use this mindset and this could just increase the possibility of one of them being mafia. (Uzendayo and DPVM don't seem all that off tho but Noodle is kinda weird)

And I'd also like to remind you that I basically turned the bandwagon against me towards Megar. (and Sanct for the following day)
True I've gotta admit that Megar wasn't acting all that scum-like but I'm p. sure everyone would bet that Sanct was mafia. For some reason, I've also got a gut feeling that he was the Doublespeaker but I wouldn't be sure of that. (the reason why I kinda think this is that he was rather leaning towards me on D2 yet he put his vote on Megar true this doesn't really confirm whether he was a goon or the doublespeaker)

Zeldamaster12 · Postby **Zeldamaster12** » Sat May 27, 2017 12:52 pm

I'm going to place a vote on Noodle, as he's currently our best lead.

Zeldamaster12 · Postby **Zeldamaster12** » Sat May 27, 2017 12:53 pm

Noodle wrote:Pseudo has been ripping the space time continuum, they swapped between night and day at midnight. Night is supossed to be 8:00 PM Eastern and Day is supposed to be 5:00 AM Eastern.

Phases are based on PST, not EST.

Cedur · Postby **Cedur** » Sat May 27, 2017 2:53 pm

Wow ZM, being the Sheriff all the way and pretending to be in contact with yourself until now. That move surely hasn't been pulled off in a long while, if at all. I don't even understand how the mafia had the idea to roleblock you. They have no inspection role. Maybe they rather thought you were the doctor.

Re - suspicions

#1 - thg1 is also a candidate for disguiser, it would somewhat fit with his prior "come on and go for me sheriff" bait, and if he's really the disguiser, then noone defended him because there wasn't any need to.

#2 - Spinda can also be the disguiser but I now honestly suspect thg1 more. At the very least I'm certain they're not both mafia. No matter what, Spinda stopping with the pessimism means nothing since after the Sanct lynch the sheriff was confirmed with zero doubt.

#3 - I put SSX on the good tier because there are only two circumstances for him having a chance to be scum, and both are not very likely. I would remove him from the good tier as of now, but it was an okayish move to contact ZM with this question since if he was successfully roleblocked, announcing the roleblock would have given him away, but ZM has done so anyway since the deputy is dead.

#4 - well, if Spinda should be the disguiser indeed, that puts some dirt on TNT too, but otherwise it's not anything to go by.

#5 - I didn't heavily push, I made a suspicion list and a recommendation based on it. And if thg1 is the disguiser, then I'm also pretty much innocent since I drawed suspicion against him from the very beginning.

#6 - well, I think the mafia tried out other hunches first, according to what SSX said. Noodle appears not only trolly, but also a little misguided looking at his vote and posting history. So Noodle, please, give an effort to put yourself together and not fool around. Either Noodle is mafia, or the mafia left him alive hoping him to get him mislynched (or revealed as sheriff, it it really had been him).

So, based on what I said under #1, I vote thehelmetguy1.

Cedur · Postby **Cedur** » Sat May 27, 2017 3:48 pm

3-way kitb, you guys should talk more

Postby **ShadowStarX** » Sat May 27, 2017 3:58 pm

Well after a while of thinking, I've come to the decision of voting for thehelmetguy1. (breaking the kitb as of now) He's been playing relatively aggressively and he told the Sheriff to inspect him whenever he wants to. I see a very slight chance in him being Consort (true we wouldn't know for sure)

Also if thg1 cardflips red, that'd almost confirm Noodle's innocence. (if thg1 turns up innocent, then it might be wise to go after Noodle or Spinda but I'm unsure about that at this point)

Also, let's see the probable worst case scenario as of now:
Disguiser - confirmed to be alive
Consort - confirmed to be alive
Doublespeaker
Mafioso

Sheriff - confirmed to be alive
Doctor - confirmed to be alive
Townsperson
Townsperson
Townsperson
Townsperson
Townsperson

Danny was probably the Nurse and from ZM's words, I guess Mosaic was the Deputy... Let's hope the mafia doesn't find the doctor anytime soon...

underFlo · Postby **underFlo** » Sat May 27, 2017 4:04 pm

why would thg cardflipping red confirm noodle's innocence?

Cedur · Postby **Cedur** » Sat May 27, 2017 4:09 pm

<ShadowStarX> 10:08 PM - thg1 went against Noodle on D1

Thehelmetguy1 · Postby **Thehelmetguy1** » Sat May 27, 2017 4:13 pm

I don't really know a way I can defend myself, so I am just going to put a safety vote on Noodle

underFlo · Postby **underFlo** » Sat May 27, 2017 5:45 pm

thehelmetguy1 seems like a decent choice and may clear up my suspicion on Noodle.

I would like to mention though that it's kinda weird how ShadowStarX made this list of possible roleblock targets - why would a Townie care about those?

Black Mamba · Postby **Black Mamba** » Sat May 27, 2017 5:57 pm

thg1 has been urking me tis entire game. As many others have said, he has been playing overtly aggressive and tried extremely hard to get the sheriff to check him. Seems like he could be disguiser. If he isn't, then you are just playing terribly. I think that THG1 is a good safety vote, either he's mafia, or a bad townie.

Also, I think Spinda is innocent. He hasn't really said anything really incriminating of being Mafia. I dunno. Throwing thoughts to the wind.

Thehelmetguy1 · Postby **Thehelmetguy1** » Sat May 27, 2017 6:08 pm

Ehhhh, I tried. Desperation just fucked me over back then I believe. I should change this agressive playstyle for the sake of myself. Pseudo, at the moment there is enough for an insta, you may change the phase.

Thehelmetguy1 · Postby **Thehelmetguy1** » Sat May 27, 2017 6:19 pm

Before dying though, I would like to say this: Keep an eye out for SSX, Noodle and Spinda. The three have reasons to be lynched. SSX with the bandwagon attempt, Noodle for the fact that many thought he was the sheriff, yet he wasn't targetted, and the fact that he is contributing very little, and Spinda for his pessimistic acting, and being overly skeptical. Cedur also looked quick to accuse people, and seemed pretty agressive towards me(Pasted directly from Discord).
So yeah, unless I come up with something to save me, that is all folks. Nothing anymore to say, except that I could have played better.