M25: The Mafia Awakens - Postgame! (player analysis!)

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M25: The Mafia Awakens - Postgame! (player analysis!)

Postby Julia Pseudo » Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:03 pm

There has been an awakening... Have you felt it?

That's right, folks, it's time for
M25: The Mafia Awakens
Format: Cardflip - 14 players

Godfather: Cardflips green. (8flight)
Consort: Can block one player's ability each night. (TNTtimelord)
Mafia (Lyrin)
Mafia (MECHDRAGON777)

Sheriff: Can learn the color of one player each night. (Mivixion)
Doctor: Can protect one player each night to prevent them from being night killed. Cannot self-protect. (Spinda)
Double Voter: Lynch votes count twice as much as the other players'. (Jacob)
Vigilante: Can kill one player each night. Loses ability permanently if s/he kills a townsperson. (Marina)
Townsperson (PixelPest)
Townsperson (Zeldamaster12)
Townsperson (Sanct)
Townsperson (RudeGuy07)
Townsperson (Joey)
Miller: Cardflips red. Thinks s/he's a regular townsperson. (Nien)

- Win conditions are standard.
- Power usage is optional, but all players should display signs of activity.
- Insta-lynches can happen.

Role PMs
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Role PM wrote:You are the Godfather! You are the mysterious leader of the Mafia. You will conspire with your fellow Mafia members, <player> (the Consort), <player>, and <player>, to kill one player each night. Additionally, you cardflip green.

Your goal is to eliminate players such that Mafia members equal or outnumber the town.
Role PM wrote:You are the Consort! You are the Godfather's mysterious wife. You will conspire with your fellow Mafia members, <player> (the Godfather), <player>, and <player>, to kill one player each night. Additionally, you can block one player's ability each night.

Your goal is to eliminate players such that Mafia members equal or outnumber the town.
Role PM wrote:You are a member of the Mafia! You will conspire with your fellow Mafia members, <player> (the Godfather), <player> (the Consort), and <player>, to kill one player each night.

Your goal is to eliminate players such that Mafia members equal or outnumber the town.
Role PM wrote:You are the Sheriff! You are the only law enforcement officer in this small town. You may investigate one player each night and learn that player's color.

Your goal is to eliminate the Mafia.
Role PM wrote:You are the Doctor! You are a well-trained emergency room physician. You may heal one player (not yourself; self-medication is dangerous) each night, preventing that player from being night killed. If you succeed, it will be publicly announced the next day.

Your goal is to eliminate the Mafia.
Role PM wrote:You are the Double Voter! You are a particularly charismatic townsperson. Your lynch votes during the day count two times as much as the other players'.

Your goal is to eliminate the Mafia.
Role PM wrote:You are the Vigilante. You've taken it upon yourself to rid the town of the evil that has appeared recently. You can kill one player each night, but will lose your ability permanently if you kill a townsperson.

Your goal is to eliminate the Mafia.
Role PM wrote:You are a Townsperson! You're just a regular townsperson with no special abilities.

You may be the Miller, but you can't say for sure.

Your goal is to eliminate the Mafia.
Players (4/14 remain)
1. Joey (Townsperson) (died Night 5)
2. Marina (Vigilante) (died Night 2)
3. Jacob (Double Voter) (died Night 3)
4. Mivixion (Sheriff)
5. Sanct (Townsperson) (died Day 5)
6. MECHDRAGON777 (Mafia) (died Day 1)
7. 8flight (Godfather)
8. Zeldamaster12 (Townsperson) (died Night 4)
9. Nien (Miller)
10. PixelPest (Townsperson) (died Day 4)
11. Lyrin (Mafia) (died Day 2)
12. TNTtimelord (Consort)
13. Spinda (Doctor) (died Night 1)
14. RudeGuy07 (Townsperson) (died Day 3)

Backups
1. RudeGuy07 (replaced Koopa-Fan)
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Death Messages
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Night 1
Spinda used to be a Mafia player like you until he took a bullet to the knee, which also killed him.
Spinda has died!

Day 1
It's an INSTA-LYNCH!

The townspeople terminated MECHDRAGON777 with extreme prejudice.
MECHDRAGON777 has died!

Night 2
Marina was walking down the street when someone hit her over the head with a brick.
Marina has died!

Day 2
It's an INSTA-LYNCH!

Lyrin was pulled into the town square by the angry villagers, who tossed her into a hole and threw stones.
Lyrin has died!

Night 3
Jacob walked into his house only to be confronted by two or three gangsters, who shot him.
Jacob has died!

Day 3
The townspeople stayed in their houses until late in the day in fear of the mafia. When they finally went outside, they decided to hang RudeGuy07.
RudeGuy07 has died!

Night 4
Zeldamaster12 got in his car to make a late-night stop at the convenience store, but someone had rigged his car to explode.
Zeldamaster12 has died!

Day 4
The townspeople determined that PixelPest must be up to something, and they hanged him in the town square.
PixelPest has died!

Night 5
Joey was doing routine server maintenance, but one of the servers was set to blow up.
Joey has died!

Day 5
It's an INSTA-LYNCH!

Two townspeople and two Mafia members - the couple that led the Mafia, no less - dragged the helpless and innocent Sanct into the town square. As he screamed and struggled to get free, the Mafia tightened the noose around his neck, and then he was dead.
Sanct has died!
Inactivity Policy
While I do not implement a formal phantom system, you will be at significant risk for being replaced by a backup if you do not post or send me a PM for over 24 in-game hours (a night and day cycle). Please keep this in mind and be active.

The MAFIA wins! Congratulations, 8flight and TNTtimelord!

Thanks to everyone who played and participated! This game had a lot of activity, and was a lot of fun.

Player analyses and phase analyses will be made soon; this was a sufficiently action-packed game for all that.

Player Analysis
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Joey: He played a central role in the blue alliance's formation and also managed to come into contact with the Sheriff late in the game. He was also active on the IRC and elsewhere, and overall played effectively as always.

Marina: The Vigilante, never used her ability but was fairly effective otherwise. Her blue-ness did allow her to become affiliated with the other blues early in the game though she was killed off on Night 2. Active on IRC, so that was good.

Jacob: Jacob was too resistant to team up with the other blues which really did not look good on him. Though he was the Double Voter, he did not take the possibility of being a blue leader very seriously based on Joey's actions in M16, even though said alliance was largely effective. I believe that the town may have been more successful had Jacob been slightly more trusting in those whom he had evidence for trusting. Activity was good, though.

Mivixion: Only inspected greens as the Sheriff, except when roleblocked on the later nights. He was somewhat inactive, though he did keep contact with the other blues. Although his suspicions that he used for inspections were fairly logical, they didn't turn out that well, but it's not necessarily his fault.

Sanct: Too defeatist; if he had presented any evidence for his innocence the town may not have lost on Day 5. Looking at his lynch votes, it's easy to see why he was suspected as Mafia as well. Activity was good though, it seems he just became frustrated at the end of the game and accidentally made himself a target.

MECHDRAGON777: Gave himself away as Mafia early on Day 1 with highly suspicious comments. His activity and contribution to the Mafia's planning was good overall while he stayed alive, but he should attempt to be more circumspect when discussing blue roles in the future (whether he's Mafia or not).

8flight: Turns out that he's actually the MVP! While TNT was the frontman of the Mafia, 8flight was the real mastermind who orchestrated much of the late game (as well as doing some sneaky stuff earlier on in the game). He managed to almost totally avoid suspicion in all this as well, which is very impressive. Well played, 8flight, hope to have you back!

Zeldamaster12: He was the town's SMVP (second most valuable player). He provided one of the most level heads in the town during the early game, and was very active especially on IRC. He was the first to provide a suspicion list, which, while not particularly accurate, did shed a light on Lyrin who was rightfully lynched (he also got evidence from IRC for this).

Nien: Town MVP without a doubt; everything he did was obviously well thought out. He made a suspicion list that was almost completely innaccurate, but made sense in content, and led the town in the lynch against Mechdragon as well as casting an early vote on Lyrin. Definitely proved himself as a townsperson (though he was the Miller, he survived through the whole game and was never inspected so it didn't matter).

PixelPest: Pretty OK showing for a first-timer in Mafia, but it's understandable why he got himself lynched - make sure you don't consistently vote near the end of the day, it looks like you're just jumping on! More activity would also be great though it's not like you were never around.

Lyrin: Extremely inactive in the thread but active on IRC - still, contributing in the thread is important so please do that more if you return in the future, Lyrin! She did plan with the Mafia on the first few nights from what I understand so that was good. She was later used as a scapegoat by the other mafiosos, which doesn't usually look good. Just make sure you say more in the thread!

TNTtimelord: I thought he was the MVP, but that's actually 8flight apparently, so I guess he is the SMVP. He acted as the frontman of the mafia and disguised himself very well, earning him a spot on both Zeldamaster and Nien's suspicion lists as innocent, relatively speaking (Nien actually wrote him in as "IDK"). His suspicion list was top-notch from a mafia perspective and his people skills were also great - nice job staying hidden all the way to the end, seriously.

Spinda: Died Night 1, but was active on that night.

RudeGuy07: Pretty inactive even though he was signed on as a backup. I can understand why he was lynched, it was a bit of an awkward entrance. Still, talking more may have saved you!
Link to Google Doc (lists ability usages, etc.)

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Re: M25: The Mafia Awakens - Postgame!

Postby Zeldamaster12 » Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:13 pm

Mech and Lyrin were pretty obvious, I was starting to suspect 8flight at the end, but TNT I did not expect to be Mafia at all. Gotta say, he concealed his identity really well. Mafia played very well this time around, good job guys!

More elaborate post coming soon.

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Re: M25: The Mafia Awakens - Postgame!

Postby MistakesWereMade » Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:27 pm

i'm SO DONE FUCK

ya nice "let's lynch greens to get the godfather" plan xd

im not salty, the loss was my fault in the end, if i went for tntimelord instead of sanct.

and if i didnt believe 8flight.

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Re: M25: The Mafia Awakens - Postgame!

Postby Zeldamaster12 » Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:32 pm

Really wish they didn't lynch off Sanct. I thought we had already established that he was an innocent. Still though, it pisses me off that he didn't even try to prove his innocence, either time. He would've been lynched off the first time if I hadn't saved him.

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Re: M25: The Mafia Awakens - Postgame!

Postby MistakesWereMade » Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:52 pm

Zeldamaster12 wrote:Really wish they didn't lynch off Sanct. I thought we had already established that he was an innocent. Still though, it pisses me off that he didn't even try to prove his innocence, either time. He would've been lynched off the first time if I hadn't saved him.
My problem with sanct is that he got out of the first lynch vote too easily, and he had similar actions to tnt, but i was a bit more inclined towards sanct since tnt seemed a bit more reliable and mivixion started the bandwagon on sanct, so i just followed it.

Really wish i didn't fall for 8flight's bluff though, i should've seen through it.

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Re: M25: The Mafia Awakens - Postgame!

Postby MECHDRAGON777 » Tue Jan 12, 2016 5:02 pm

In all honesty, I do not know what gave myself away...

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Re: M25: The Mafia Awakens - Postgame!

Postby Nanaya » Tue Jan 12, 2016 5:11 pm

Jesus Christ
I know tnt was mafia, (sorry Joey and zm) but i really did not believe that he was with that acting. Well done
This game was p good cant wait for the next game

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Re: M25: The Mafia Awakens - Postgame!

Postby Zeldamaster12 » Tue Jan 12, 2016 5:27 pm

MECHDRAGON777 wrote:In all honesty, I do not know what gave myself away...
I don't remember exactly what gave you away, but what put the nail in the coffin was when you said out loud who you thought the specials were. I might've done the same since I would've died anyways, but then again, there'd be that chance that you were the Miller.

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Re: M25: The Mafia Awakens - Postgame!

Postby Marina » Tue Jan 12, 2016 5:36 pm

goddamnit tnt why do you always have to do this to me

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Re: M25: The Mafia Awakens - Postgame!

Postby Zeldamaster12 » Tue Jan 12, 2016 5:42 pm

TNT just looked so... innocent!

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Re: M25: The Mafia Awakens - Postgame!

Postby TLtimelord » Tue Jan 12, 2016 5:46 pm

I wasn't even the biggest mafia player in the end! xD

8flight was the ones who deviated most of the plans after lyrin died and he was the one who came up with the PM stunt. He's the one that should be credited for actually getting the mafia to WIN. I only made myself look good by getting you all (except Jacob) to trust me for the most part, doing so by giving you guys the very outcomes of mafia intent that were actually occuring. You guys just never considered them!

We were completely lucky on Spinda being blue (not so much Marina cause he accidentally spilled he was a blue) and we did rely on Jacob's extreme paranoia to rip apart the town at the beginning. Once we figured out who was sheriff, I rode on him as consort all the way to the end while 8flight used nien to pick off greens.

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Re: M25: The Mafia Awakens - Postgame!

Postby Marina » Tue Jan 12, 2016 5:55 pm

i really need to stop trusting you tnt

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Re: M25: The Mafia Awakens - Postgame!

Postby Zeldamaster12 » Tue Jan 12, 2016 5:58 pm

Of course we got the two Mafiosi with no special abilities, but not the Consort and the Godfather after how many greens died. Honestly I suspected PixelPest, Joey, and Nien to be the Godfather. I suspected Joey at first but after long discussion on IRC, I came to trust him. PixelPest wasn't doing too much and he came on the IRC and idled so I believed he could've been the Godfather playing it safe. Then at the end, we still hadn't won and Nien was going for Sanct so I suspected him a little.

TNT acted very innocent and reliable, and 8flight also seemed reliable and he even threw Lyrin under the bus. Definitely made me gain your trust, so your plan worked. =P

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Re: M25: The Mafia Awakens - Postgame!

Postby Delete if Allowed 2 » Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:14 pm

The following outlines what I did each day.

Night 1
-I basically had no idea what to do, so I just listened to killing Spinda. HECK YEAH
TNT said the good players were Zelda and Nien and that they needed to go.

Day 1
-Still had no idea what I do. I saw Mechdragon said who he just died, so I voted for him
However, I typed /vote Mechdragon777 instead of MECHDRAGON777, so my vote wouldnt count and no one would suspect a thing since I was a new player.
I then corrected my vote to show that I was paying attention to the thread

Night 2
-TNT said Marina was doctor and he thought Nien was sheriff. We roleblocked Nien and killed Marina. We were planning on killing Nien next.

Day 2
-I browsered through the thread and saw that Zelda voted for Lyrin and saw that Lyrin was definitely getting voted that day. I decided to trick Lyrin into accusing Jacob of being mafia because I saw how panicked he was. I was aware Marina died, so I typed the only way that Jacob could be mafia is if 2 blues died. It's not like 2 blues died. Lyrin took the bait, so I accused him. Lyrin then tried to throw me under the bus, so I told TNT to make him stay quiet.

Night 3
-We roleblocked Sanct who we thought was sheriff.
-We killed Jacob because he was double voter. At this point, we planned to kill Zelda, Joey and Nien.

Day 3
-I just jumped on the bandwagon for RudeGuy07

Night 4
-I discussed with TNT who we thought sheriff was. Basically, Nien voted for Mixvion on Day 3, and the fact that Zeldamaster straight up voted Sanct the next day without considering Mixivion, told us that Mixvion was cop. So we had our roleblock. Thanks Zelda. I read over suspicion lists, and saw that I was supicious on Nien's list, so I had a discussion with him about baiting TNT into mafia slipping by lying to be sheriff. He wanted me to bait Sanct, but I said I thought he was innocent, so I told TNT of this plan. We finally decided not to kill Nien and to just use him as a puppet

Day 4
-Nien voted for Mixvion, so we followed suit. Yep, the mafia literally tried to vote the sheriff when we knew who he was lol.
-When Mixvion voted Nien, I instantly defended him and sent TNT a fake pm. We actually scumslipped with the fake pm.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: M25
Date: Sun Jan 9, 2016 11:17 PM
From: 8flight
To: TNTtimelord

8flight wrote:
Hi, you seem like a trustworthy person.
I have a bad feeling. I would just like to know that I am sheriff.

If you notice on the Date section, it says Sunday when it's supposed to be Saturday.
If any of you found that, mafia would have lost.

Night 5
So TNT was inactive this night, so it was up to me to find who to rb/kill.
I decided to kill Joey because I thought he could see through our plan. We rbed Mixvion of course.

Day 5
Nien messaged me his plan to try and bait Sanct/TNT
I forwarded it to TNT and other Nien info.
TNT voted for Sanct, so Mixvion jumped on, so Nien jumped on, so I jumped on.

And that is how I won my first mafia game.

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Re: M25: The Mafia Awakens - Postgame!

Postby MistakesWereMade » Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:21 pm

fuck ursefl

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Re: M25: The Mafia Awakens - Postgame!

Postby Zeldamaster12 » Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:45 pm

Wow, there's more depth to this than I thought!

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Re: M25: The Mafia Awakens - Postgame!

Postby MistakesWereMade » Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:56 pm

i blame mivixion

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Re: M25: The Mafia Awakens - Postgame!

Postby Delete if Allowed 2 » Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:59 pm

Zeldamaster12 wrote:Wow, there's more depth to this than I thought!
It's one of the most exciting mafia games Ive played.
I really enjoyed it. I'm definitely going to play more.

Also, trust me next game. Pls.

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Re: M25: The Mafia Awakens - Postgame!

Postby PixelPest » Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:56 pm

Wow. 8flight seemed so innocent and friendly on the chat but wow. You and TNT did a great job concealing your identities. I have to say I really enjoyed my first game and will definitely play again.

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Re: M25: The Mafia Awakens - Postgame!

Postby Mivixion » Tue Jan 12, 2016 10:01 pm

the new board style/forum software sucks and makes playing mafia less fun 0/10

Anyway great bussing play 8flight and TNT. I saw it but wasn't able to be there for the last critical moments of the game.


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