The Trash Can

Erik · Postby **Erik** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:59 am

Okay so I want people's opinions on this. I think we're kind of scaring new people away by literally calling their levels trash, I mean sure, levels in there are bad but if they've never had any criticism they can't know what's good or not. So I'd suggest to change the name to something less rude, "Room for Improvement", by example.

Emral · Postby **Emral** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:00 am

But Average and Pretty Good are already "Room for Improvement".

Erik · Postby **Erik** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:03 am

Enjl wrote:But Average and Pretty Good are already "Room for Improvement".

Any better suggestions?

Postby **Witchking666** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:07 am

i do think the trash can should be removed YES

KateBulka · Postby **KateBulka** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:08 am

we're NOT scaring peoples. They try to see it and improve level style what is expect to see.

Erik · Postby **Erik** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:09 am

Marionette The Puppet wrote:we're NOT scaring peoples. They try to see it and improve level style what is expect to see.

That doesn't take away that the name is too blunt.

Postby **Witchking666** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:12 am

Marionette The Puppet wrote:we're NOT scaring peoples. They try to see it and improve level style what is expect to see.

GG for gremmer
also, i am not really scared of SCARING HIM OFF
i am merely scared of OFFENDING them

KateBulka · Postby **KateBulka** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:15 am

Ludwig Von Koopa: Let me tell. In begin, when i was 9 or 10 years i am register here and look at levels, trash can. I was think too like you what they must be average, pretty good or the best. But then, i'll begin watch in levels, any block, any distance, any design! And you know what? I was did mistake, that levels really must be in trash can... Just play all levels of trash can and forget about than, that you said only NOW.

Erik · Postby **Erik** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:18 am

Marionette The Puppet wrote:Ludwig Von Koopa: Let me tell. In begin, when i was 9 or 10 years i am register here and look at levels, trash can. I was think too like you what they must be average, pretty good or the best. But then, i'll begin watch in levels, any block, any distance, any design! And you know what? I was did mistake, that levels really must be in trash can... Just play all levels of trash can and forget about than, that you said only NOW.

I'm not saying the trash can should just vanish. I'm trying to say they should change THE NAME.

KateBulka · Postby **KateBulka** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:21 am

The Trash Can must be The Trash Can. Its a big logic. Joey control his forum, i think the name of Trash Can will NOT change.

Emral · Postby **Emral** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:23 am

The game developer has spoken.

"Pit of no Return"
"Below Average"
"Bad Levels"
"Subpar Levels"
"Cool Hills"

Zeldamaster12 · Postby **Zeldamaster12** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:26 am

We don't need to sugarcoat things. If it is bad enough to receive a 2/10 or below, it's trash can quality. If you seriously get scared off simply over your level being sent to the Trash Can, then there's something wrong with you.

Mable · Postby **Mable** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:31 am

Zeldamaster12 wrote:We don't need to sugarcoat things. If it is bad enough to receive a 2/10 or below, it's trash can quality. If you seriously get scared off simply over your level being sent to the Trash Can, then there's something wrong with you.

Pretty much this actually. Idt anyone gets really scared by it and most people don't even care about it tbh.

Erik · Postby **Erik** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:32 am

Zeldamaster12 wrote:We don't need to sugarcoat things. If it is bad enough to receive a 2/10 or below, it's trash can quality. If you seriously get scared off simply over your level being sent to the Trash Can, then there's something wrong with you.

*offended*, *insulted*, that's what I mean, might have just worded it like shit.

ragont · Postby **ragont** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:46 am

you know what you should rename "the trash can"

this entire forum FUCK YOU

ragont · Postby **ragont** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:53 am

Marionette The Puppet wrote:The Trash Can must be The Trash Can. Its a big logic. Joey control his forum, i think the name of Trash Can will NOT change.

and i dont know why
this kid has
a fucking dobby
as his avatar, but his english is just fucking shitfucked, alright.

litchh · Postby **litchh** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 12:09 pm

Enjl wrote:"Cool Hills"

Best idea ever.

PixelPest · Postby **PixelPest** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 1:06 pm

I think it should just be left as the "Trash Can". If users can't admit that their levels could become better and get sad about a name or categorization, they're too immature to be on a forum like this. The name of the trash kind of motivated me to make better levels because I didn't want my level in there, but even if it did end up there I really wouldn't have cared. Also, if newer users don't want their levels in the Trash Can, they could just improve their levels and not post the very first level they make, or post in Casual Levels.

Mable · Postby **Mable** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 1:16 pm

Ludwig von Koopa wrote: *offended*, *insulted*, that's what I mean, might have just worded it like shit.

Trash Can doesn't sound insulting or offensive...

HeroLinik · Postby **HeroLinik** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 1:29 pm

One of the reasons it's called that is because this forum is based on Redigit's old forum at SMB.org, and it had a section called Trash Can. In fact, I originally suggested on another SMBX forum about the idea of adding a Trash Can, but it was turned down quickly because the name was pretty offensive. It's the same here. New users join up, are eager to share their levels, and most of the time, it's either sent to Average or, in extreme cases, the Trash Can. As you stated in the first post, it's like calling the levels trash, but I need to elaborate further and state that some of the level judges (this being an example) have to explicitly state that the level is not trash in the first place. The description also says: Levels posted here need a lot of work before they're ready to be played, which suggests that the levels are ridiculously broken and no-one would want to play them. This could be true for the kaizo-like levels, but even newbies who are starting out on SMBX that make their first level, and it gets sent here, fall under this descriptor as well. This could be really insulting for those people because they don't know how to improve it further, because they probably don't know about moving layers/events/custom graphics/custom music and the like because you're forced to update it beyond what you can update it to. This could also explain some of the elitist nature of the community as well.

TL;DR: I would definitely want to see it renamed.