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About SMBX...

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:01 pm
by Chris900J
Dunno if this goes here... In case it doesn't, the auths can put in in the correct place.
Well, as to what I wanted to say: Is it just me, or SMBX is becoming less used and less popular? In other words, "dead". I see a tiny bit amount of people that post stuff and comment, there are only a few good projects out there, people that put a lot of effort on their work like Lowser's Conquest an almost no one seems to care about it anymore... You guys get the drill. I would like to hear the opinions of you guys about this matter.

Re: About SMBX...

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:45 pm
by Namyrr
It's true, the SMBX community has only died over time and hardly anyone knows/cares/remembers it anymore.

Re: About SMBX...

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 12:58 am
by Julia Pseudo
Well, the reality of the situation is that SMBX probably will truly die, someday. But the community is kind of going through some kind of second golden age recently with the establishment of this forum, and with all the new members it seems that activity is coming back and new, interesting projects are being started. I'm hopeful.

Re: About SMBX...

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:45 am
by Darkonius Mavakar
Actually, it's pretty well known on MFGG, and i've seen many forums dedicaded to it, there are many videos (not bossy's and Wraith) that have a LOT more views than the others, for example Dragonboy or Mechamind, even Raocow.
we're safe... for now...

Re: About SMBX...

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 11:56 am
by HeroLinik
It is probably going to die some day, but it won't be for some time soon. The forums were dying over time and after Knux attempted to delete this forum, this caused users on his site to turn against him and leave his site for good. However, all this has done is cause people to leave the community forever, and this causes more people to leave, and so on. This keeps stacking up like a multiplier effect and if this was still occurring today, SMBX would have died by now and we'd only have something like 10 users left who care about SMBX. Then they'd leave because they'd have no friends.

Re: About SMBX...

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 3:50 pm
by Shadow Yoshi
A community that's lasted this long isn't going to die any time soon.

Assuming you mean it that way. SMBX the game died in 2011 but we've seen a recent resurgence in customization.

Re: About SMBX...

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 6:31 pm
by TLtimelord
While it's true the game's production has stopped, which can mean we can consider it dead, as well as the fact our community is dying in several ways, it doesn't mean it is dying quickly. I'm actually quite surprised how well this community is staying largely together, even through it's major hardships within the past year and a half. I wouldn't be surprised to see it last for at least at least one more year before the activity actually starts taking a major hit.

Re: About SMBX...

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 8:02 pm
by Fuyu
The mere fact that SMBX continued to be used for such long time since it died is more that impressive. I've felt the forum would die sometime, but it's something that cannot be avoided. Since SMBX has died and Redigit neglects to hand out the source code we're not able to do anything for its sake. Until a real version (for real) of SMBX is released the forum will just continuously keep dying day by day.

Of course, this doesn't mean we're stuck or anything. I've been thinking this for a while, and I think it would be better for someone to start working on another mario-crafting program. It wouldn't be as successful as SMBX though, but it would be worth trying, and by someone I mean that I won't be the one to do it. Of course, I would help on the GFX design.

Leaving this idea aside, what's left to do is see how long can our community and the usage of SMBX lasts, and hope it does long enough.

Re: About SMBX...

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 8:24 pm
by silent_
I really think it will be completely dead in a few years, specially because of the continuous merges that are occurring. Each time these events happen, at least ten or twenty members leave. What I'm attempting to say is that unless someone finds the source code, each day it's left in the dust dying and dying. No new members bother much to visit the SMBX community anymore because there's hardly as much advertisements around the internet nowadays. I bet when it first came out there were popular site adds putting Redigit in fame, but now barely anyone even bothers to say his name coz he's simply not well-known. Numerous users have touched SMBX but never thought that Redigit ever made it. The fact that members still even try to discover the source code concerns me, though. It gets me paranoid that someone is going to fake it and then everyone will get excited.
However, I must say that I am proud of myself for existing in the SMBX boundaries for two years and being on the forums for one and a half. That still impresses me to this day, February 13, 2014.

Re: About SMBX...

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:18 pm
by Shadow Yoshi
Like I said, a community that's been going strong for over 4 years doesn't just die. We all have stayed, right?

There also will not be any more merges happening any time soon. These forums are here to stay. Not to mention that the current forums have seen the return of so many members.

Re: About SMBX...

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 3:48 am
by Magician
SMBX can die but the community doesn't have to.

There are still some amazing projects yet to be fully seen: Lowser's Conquest, LFFTMK...
There was a project by Aeon in the works that looked really good, too. Dunno if that's still happening.
Anyway the fact that there are only a "few good projects" is probably indicative of what to expect in any similar medium. The best submissions are usually only a mere fraction of all submissions.

Re: About SMBX...

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 12:42 pm
by Raster
Well, it hasn't been 'going strong' for 4 years. It's been struggling. I think it finally started growing once again.

Re: About SMBX...

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 4:32 pm
by Shadow Yoshi
Raster wrote:It's been struggling.
Not really. While we've had members come and go, tons of people have been active every day for the past four years.

Re: About SMBX...

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 4:38 pm
by Axiom
Joey wrote:Not really. While we've had members come and go, tons of people have been active every day for the past four years.
^^
There's always times where the activity is lower or higher. You can expect that from any community. But I can agree that SMBX isn't going anywhere for a LONG time. I just can't wait for someone to get busy and code a worthy successor to this.

Re: About SMBX...

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 4:52 pm
by Bomber57
Kep wrote:I really think it will be completely dead in a few years, specially because of the continuous merges that are occurring. Each time these events happen, at least ten or twenty members leave. What I'm attempting to say is that unless someone finds the source code, each day it's left in the dust dying and dying. No new members bother much to visit the SMBX community anymore because there's hardly as much advertisements around the internet nowadays. I bet when it first came out there were popular site adds putting Redigit in fame, but now barely anyone even bothers to say his name coz he's simply not well-known. Numerous users have touched SMBX but never thought that Redigit ever made it. The fact that members still even try to discover the source code concerns me, though. It gets me paranoid that someone is going to fake it and then everyone will get excited.
However, I must say that I am proud of myself for existing in the SMBX boundaries for two years and being on the forums for one and a half. That still impresses me to this day, February 13, 2014.
I'm pretty sure at this point no more merges will happen.

inb4 merge between joey's forum and fnc's forum

Re: About SMBX...

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 2:10 pm
by CaptainCalamity
FNC? Do you mean CNF? In which case, I find it unlikely. Cloud made that forum for people who did not like Knux's forums or NSMBX, which is why many forums with different rules, different staff, and more choices are better than one crowded forum with the same rules, same staff, and no choices. Back before all of this horrid "merging" that nearly destroyed Cloud's Forum in the first place, you could choose between Knux's Forums, NSMBX, or Cloud's Forums. That's 3 choices. Now, you only have 2 choices, which is this forum and the newly revived SMBX:E. That seems a bit forceful, and I do not believe Cloud will ever merge again, and the members will agree.

Re: About SMBX...

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 2:13 pm
by Shadow Yoshi
CaptainCalamity wrote:FNC? Do you mean CNF? In which case, I find it unlikely. Cloud made that forum for people who did not like Knux's forums or NSMBX, which is why many forums with different rules, different staff, and more choices are better than one crowded forum with the same rules, same staff, and no choices. Back before all of this horrid "merging" that nearly destroyed Cloud's Forum in the first place, you could choose between Knux's Forums, NSMBX, or Cloud's Forums. That's 3 choices. Now, you only have 2 choices, which is this forum and the newly revived SMBX:E. That seems a bit forceful, and I do not believe Cloud will ever merge again, and the members will agree.
By "FNC" they meant FutureNyanCat's forums. But to respond to the rest of this post, Cloud's forums (CNF, SMBXE) were never a part of the SMBX community/sphere of forums.

Re: About SMBX...

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 2:24 pm
by CaptainCalamity
Joey wrote:By "FNC" they meant FutureNyanCat's forums. But to respond to the rest of this post, Cloud's forums (CNF, SMBXE) were never a part of the SMBX community/sphere of forums.
Thank you very much for clarifying that, I never quite understood it. I find it odd that CNF is FNC backwords, and vice versa.

As for the SMBX community and SMBX:E, yes it is. It's an SMBX forum (It's called SMBX:E, after all), and people are still posting on it, as I see new posts commonly in the Levels, Graphics, Projects, and other parts of the forum.

Re: About SMBX...

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 2:41 pm
by Bomber57
CaptainCalamity wrote:
Joey wrote:By "FNC" they meant FutureNyanCat's forums. But to respond to the rest of this post, Cloud's forums (CNF, SMBXE) were never a part of the SMBX community/sphere of forums.
Thank you very much for clarifying that, I never quite understood it. I find it odd that CNF is FNC backwords, and vice versa.

As for the SMBX community and SMBX:E, yes it is. It's an SMBX forum (It's called SMBX:E, after all), and people are still posting on it, as I see new posts commonly in the Levels, Graphics, Projects, and other parts of the forum.
It may be a SMBX forum, but Cloud had expressed that he didn't want to be part of the community anymore.

Or something like that.

Re: About SMBX...

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 3:04 pm
by CaptainCalamity
Well, I and another person am now administrating it, and while he said he didn't want to be of it, we will be keeping track of SMBX:E while he keeps track of CNF.

And yes, I am ADventuresVDO if you hadn't already known.