Substantial Steppe (SCREENS FIXED)

[Kley]

UPDATED! Yay, the new version of the level can be downloaded here (also in the original thread):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cxgltd1h9q5zg ... Steppe.zip

I would appreciate a re-review from either Kley again or anyone else (I'd personally prefer a different judge's perspective of how they like this level but eh, it's fine either way). I'll move this back to levels. Someone can contact me on this thread or via PM if I should in the future refrain from moving my own thread to a different board but eh.

There wasn't really any point in moving this topic back to levels considering it was already in bests.

[silent_]

There wasn't really any point in moving this topic back to levels considering it was already in bests.

Well, thinking about it there could be a reason, I could always receive a higher score depending on a level judge's perspective, but regardless I see what you're thinking.
Also, I just remembered; an 8/10 is not high enough to make it into the best. Proof:
http://www.supermariobrosx.org/forums/v ... =32&t=1201

[TLtimelord]

Yes there was a reason, I could always receive a higher score.

You could have worded that a little better, because you made yourself look like a stuck-up asshole. What I got from that is that you expect your level to get a higher score.

[FanofSMBX]

What? Wouldn't he try to improve his level to get a higher score?

[silent_]

Yes there was a reason, I could always receive a higher score.

You could have worded that a little better, because you made yourself look like a stuck-up asshole. What I got from that is that you expect your level to get a higher score.

I reworded it now, but it wasn't to my intention to make others think I expected it to get a higher score. I was saying there was a reason, I could always receive a higher score, meaning maybe or maybe not. I would watch saying things like that, particularly this, "Stuck up asshole." Just PM next time with things like this, 'K?

Syndrilevosse: Sorry, but I'm just not going to deal with your posting habits today. Move along, post deleted by me and don't go on others' sides just because you're not the hugest fan of my personality. You didn't even say anything about the level but you had to mention you agree with TNTtimelord. It's getting old.

[Kley]

Kep, I'm not gonna make a huge fuss about it, but I do believe you shouldn't be moving your levels out of the forums they've been moved to due to fixing it up a bit. It would be different if everyone was able to do this, but you can only move your topic because you're part moderator as a judge. It's a bit unfair... You can't just do it willy nilly orbrlsr everyone is going to expect their levels to be re-reviewed.

[FanofSMBX]

Levels aren't supposed to be rereviewed?

[silent_]

Kep, I'm not gonna make a huge fuss about it, but I do believe you shouldn't be moving your levels out of the forums they've been moved to due to fixing it up a bit. It would be different if everyone was able to do this, but you can only move your topic because you're part moderator as a judge. It's a bit unfair... You can't just do it willy nilly orbrlsr everyone is going to expect their levels to be re-reviewed.

Normal users can specifically request in the title (NEEDS MOVED TO LEVELS - UPDATED), PM a level judge, or even contact one in the thread. You're not the leader of the level judges either, and you said "I do believe" which technically means "I think" so candidly I think you should just stop worrying about it. Just some friendly advice.
If you have further concerns, just PM me because I'm sick of the off-topic on this thread.

The next post that should be made here is a judge's review, or a normal user's comment on this level, whenever the heck that will be. Kley, if you want to re-review this, go on ahead, but if you don't, certainly don't feel like you're forced to do so.

[Kley]

I may re-review, but not right now. I'll probably replace this post with a review in time.

[Danny]

"Red coins make special triggers occur. Additionally, for another note, it depends on the color of the mushroom of how fast the speed is." <-- Please work on your grammar and wording of things. You also don't need to explain all of the level gimmicks to me in these text boxes, it's fairly unnecessary.

I remember this level, or at least remember you making a level, with this, in all honesty, awful green hue effect. It shouldn't exist in a level like this! It would fit in some sort of swamp or toxic cavern, but not this! It doesn't look good at all in this environment to be truly and sincerely honest.

I also noticed you pulled this off, yet again:

Spoiler: show

There are specific custom graphics (in which I see you used a lot of custom graphics) which serve the actual purpose of creating an underground grass-effect like you wish to accomplish. Doing what you did doesn't look good at all.

The gimmick of the level, which was the moving mushrooms, was pretty decent. I had to look through the level sections to find the second star, which I had trouble finding on my second and third runs. Enemy placement was decent enough as well. I really didn't care for the fact that collecting red coins caused things to happen in a level, because sometimes I ignored the red coins entirely. I would suggest against having the player collect a single red coin to have an event occur, it was pretty strange.

The level was actually pretty short and easy. I didn't die once in any of my runs of the level. I really dislike the green hue effect, but of course I had to deal with it. I really don't know what to say about this level, as there isn't much to say about it. It could have used some secrets, as well as some other gimmicks rather than just the moving mushrooms. I would flesh out my review a bit more, but again, there isn't much to talk about here.

I did like the music, though!

6/10

EDIT: You should probably fix your screenshots. Also, beating a dead horse here, but you should also refrain from deleting others' posts in your level just because you disagree with it and you have the power!

[silent_]

"Red coins make special triggers occur. Additionally, for another note, it depends on the color of the mushroom of how fast the speed is." <-- Please work on your grammar and wording of things. You also don't need to explain all of the level gimmicks to me in these text boxes, it's fairly unnecessary.

I remember this level, or at least remember you making a level, with this, in all honesty, awful green hue effect. It shouldn't exist in a level like this! It would fit in some sort of swamp or toxic cavern, but not this! It doesn't look good at all in this environment to be truly and sincerely honest.

I also noticed you pulled this off, yet again:

Spoiler: show

There are specific custom graphics (in which I see you used a lot of custom graphics) which serve the actual purpose of creating an underground grass-effect like you wish to accomplish. Doing what you did doesn't look good at all.

The gimmick of the level, which was the moving mushrooms, was pretty decent. I had to look through the level sections to find the second star, which I had trouble finding on my second and third runs. Enemy placement was decent enough as well. I really didn't care for the fact that collecting red coins caused things to happen in a level, because sometimes I ignored the red coins entirely. I would suggest against having the player collect a single red coin to have an event occur, it was pretty strange.

The level was actually pretty short and easy. I didn't die once in any of my runs of the level. I really dislike the green hue effect, but of course I had to deal with it. I really don't know what to say about this level, as there isn't much to say about it. It could have used some secrets, as well as some other gimmicks rather than just the moving mushrooms. I would flesh out my review a bit more, but again, there isn't much to talk about here.

I did like the music, though!

6/10

EDIT: You should probably fix your screenshots. Also, beating a dead horse here, but you should also refrain from deleting others' posts in your level just because you disagree with it and you have the power!

I would like to start by saying that taking points off the green hue effect is just... eh... well... I spent three days working on it, and specified quite a bit I will not fix it in a lot of places. I'm just making an inference that you took points off for bad grammar. Also, there were so much secrets, that it was amazing. Not to be obnoxious, but did you even play it? Three stars, red coins, P blocks, many gimmicks besides just moving mushrooms too. Sorry, but what do you expect? There is no way that this got a six out of ten, it already got reviewed twice and got much better scores, I'm just speechless, frankly, and discouraged as hell. You barely gave any constructive criticism, either, and by the things you pointed out it was definitely at LEAST eight point fifty out of ten. I can handle constructive criticism, I've proved that in my story thread and even this thread, though for that little constructive criticism, it's nothing BUT something to complain about.

I think you should get better at exploring levels and distributing constructive criticism; I was strict a level judge, but no where close as that. I am incredibly disappointed, and I'm not sure if I'm the only one that thinks I got a horrible score, either.

I guess I can think you for your review, except I feel quite uncomfortable mentioning that due to the reasons I said above.

[Danny]

I would like to start by saying that taking points off the green hue effect is just... eh... well... I spent three days working on it, and specified quite a bit I will not fix it in a lot of places.

You spent three days working on this simple green hue effect? The hue effect doesn't fit this level's environment at all! It would fit in, like I said, a swamp or toxic cavern of some sort, but it just looks, quite honestly, rather awful here. Three days?! I could do that in about an hour or two with Paint.NET, no problem. Just go through, use the Hue/Saturation Adjustment under the Adjustment tab, select a suitable color, and place it on every single graphic I will use.

I'm just making an inference that you took points off for bad grammar.

I never took points off for bad grammar? I never even stated that I did? I just brought that up so you can fix it in any future levels.

Also, there were so much secrets, that it was amazing.

I played through that level about four times in one night and I only found a total of two stars, and I looked everywhere throughout the level for any other secrets, and I didn't find any.

Not to be obnoxious, but did you even play it? Three stars, red coins, P blocks, many gimmicks besides just moving mushrooms too. Sorry, but what do you expect?

I played through the level, like I had just said previously, about four times over. I only found two stars throughout the entirety of the level, the only gimmick I really saw was the moving mushrooms. The red coins only served the purpose of generating events which caused some of the mushrooms to appear, which shouldn't count as a gimmick on it's own! I don't count stars as gimmicks, to be frank.

There is no way that this got a six out of ten, it already got reviewed twice and got much better scores, I'm just speechless, frankly, and discouraged as hell. You barely gave any constructive criticism, either, and by the things you pointed out it was definitely at LEAST eight point fifty out of ten.

Were you expecting a 6.5? The least I would give this level is a 6, but I wouldn't score it past a 7. Out of my review and the other two, this level was placed in Pretty Good as that is what it scored, so I don't see why you're wanting a higher score. An "eight point fifty out of ten" would still place it in Pretty Good, so it's no different from a 6, in my opinion.

Also, I'm not going to make walk-through style reviews just to point out every single bit of this level. I'm also not one to hand out constructive criticism. I will point out some things I noticed and liked/disliked in the level, and I'll go from there.

I can handle constructive criticism, I've proved that in my story thread and even this thread, though for that little constructive criticism, it's nothing BUT something to complain about.

Uh, okay? What does this have to do with anything?

I think you should get better at exploring levels and distributing constructive criticism; I was strict a level judge, but no where close as that. I am incredibly disappointed, and I'm not sure if I'm the only one that thinks I got a horrible score, either.

I can assure you that I pay attention to almost every little detail when running through a level, I don't see how I need to "get better at exploring levels". And what do you mean by "distributing constructive criticism"? Is constructive criticism all you care about? I'm also certain that you're the only one that thinks that you got a "horrible score", because your score isn't horrible, you got a 6 out of 10! That placed you in the Pretty Good category! There are people with levels that scored under a 6! Don't be disappointed!

Also, you were never a strict level judge, so stop saying you were. kthxbai

I guess I can think you for your review, except I feel quite uncomfortable mentioning that due to the reasons I said above.

You're welcome, I guess?

[Shadow Yoshi]

(note for posterity - Level Judges are required to give constructive criticism, but we don't have to be strict on what that means; if you feel as though a Level Judge is doing a bad job at reviewing, notify an administrator or m4sterbr0s when he gets back)

[sleepy]

The palettes aren't too bad, in my opinion. Although, the background kind of has the same color as the foreground, you could easily mistake it for being actual ground and die.

[Kyo]

I would like to start by saying that taking points off the green hue effect is just... eh... well... I spent three days working on it, and specified quite a bit I will not fix it in a lot of places. I'm just making an inference that you took points off for bad grammar. Also, there were so much secrets, that it was amazing. Not to be obnoxious, but did you even play it? Three stars, red coins, P blocks, many gimmicks besides just moving mushrooms too. Sorry, but what do you expect? There is no way that this got a six out of ten, it already got reviewed twice and got much better scores, I'm just speechless, frankly, and discouraged as hell. You barely gave any constructive criticism, either, and by the things you pointed out it was definitely at LEAST eight point fifty out of ten. I can handle constructive criticism, I've proved that in my story thread and even this thread, though for that little constructive criticism, it's nothing BUT something to complain about.

I think you should get better at exploring levels and distributing constructive criticism; I was strict a level judge, but no where close as that. I am incredibly disappointed, and I'm not sure if I'm the only one that thinks I got a horrible score, either.

I guess I can think you for your review, except I feel quite uncomfortable mentioning that due to the reasons I said above.

People have different standards. Some people decrease the score by considering the mistakes of the level, some people decrease the score by considering what they generally dislike, and some determine the score by the quality. But either way a 8.5 is pretty damn high. I'd only give that score to levels that really impressed me a lot. I didn't play this level yet and am even uncertain if I ever will, but I did look at the screenshot from Syndrilevosse and yes, the green hue effect looks indeed really good, but I also agree with him that it feels slightly out of place in this level. In a swamp level it could end-up looking really awesome, but I'd personally leave it out here. 6 out of 10 is not horrible at all. 6 out of 10 is completely fine, a decent score. Unless I designed a level I'd consider as my best level ever, I doubt I'd complain about a 6 out of 10. Even if you disagree with him, you could at least try listening to him and you maybe even improve. By the way, different people always find different mistakes, so just because a person rated your level 8 out of 10 and you improved it, it doesn't mean the next person has to rate it higher because you improved your 8/10-level. You might also want to reupload your screenshots.

[Megar]

kep stop bitching and just accept someone didn't think your level was as good as you thought it was

[Bomber57]

kep stop bitching and just accept someone didn't think your level was as good as you thought it was

Pretty much this, Kep. When someone gives any content of yours a review that isn't praising it and kissing your ass, you make a big deal about it on how you feel like you were horribly wronged or some shit. Stop doing that.

[Vinyl Scratch]

Bad level judge=/=Bad review
Get over it

[Shadow Yoshi]

Let's tone down the rudeness toward Kep, please.