The Power Stars - (Lock Please)

John The White Yoshi · Postby **John The White Yoshi** » Tue May 13, 2014 12:09 am

Some of the screenshots remind me of Super Mario World and of it's fan-made hacks of the game. It's looks amazing.

Lx Xzit · Postby **Lx Xzit** » Sat May 17, 2014 1:03 pm

I would like to notify some changes in the project through this post .

* Hub no longer be used : Personally I do not like hubs, finally I decided to replace the Hub for a map, I'll upload soon screenshots. although this hub, not lose at all, will be able to find in the world map .

* Yoshi is the fifth character : I really do not want to lengthen the topic , people prefer to Yoshi, (and I too) i think it fits well in the world of Mario.

* There are no 3 star per level: It is a small surprise , but not lose the thrill of exploring the levels.

* Possible Demo : I don´t wanted say this, but, i worry a little stealing some graphics, is still in decision to launch a new demo.

* The Rolling Hills will be used : It's really hard to work with them , I mean the graphics , I find it impossible to do 90 perfect animations for NPC , and personally do not want to waste time on him, daria for free use, but so currently i do not have a 100% functional graphic .

Those are all important news so far.

Tepig2000 · Postby **Tepig2000** » Sat May 17, 2014 1:07 pm

MechaLxNiiur wrote:I would like to notify some changes in the project through this post .

* Hub no longer be used : Personally I do not like hubs, finally I decided to replace the Hub for a map, I'll upload soon screenshots. although this hub, not lose at all, will be able to find in the world map .

* Yoshi is the fifth character : I really do not want to lengthen the topic , people prefer to Yoshi, (and I too) i think it fits well in the world of Mario.

* There are no 3 star per level: It is a small surprise , but not lose the thrill of exploring the levels.

* Possible Demo : I don´t wanted say this, but, i worry a little stealing some graphics, is still in decision to launch a new demo.

* The Rolling Hills will be used : It's really hard to work with them , I mean the graphics , I find it impossible to do 90 perfect animations for NPC , and personally do not want to waste time on him, daria for free use, but so currently i do not have a 100% functional graphic .

Those are all important news so far.

All are good news I think. But I still don't like the idea of a playable Yoshi that can't eat enemies. It bugs me a lot.

SuperWingedYoshi · Postby **SuperWingedYoshi** » Sat May 17, 2014 1:45 pm

It seems to be impossible to add the ability for Yoshi to eat enemies, even with LunaDLL. All Mecha can do is to make Yoshi replace Link, that's the closest he can get. (Besides, a Yoshi that's able to flutter-jump, eat enemies and turn them into throwable eggs would be quite an advantage over the other characters, don't you think?)

Tepig2000 · Postby **Tepig2000** » Sat May 17, 2014 2:50 pm

SuperWingedYoshi wrote:It seems to be impossible to add the ability for Yoshi to eat enemies, even with LunaDLL. All Mecha can do is to make Yoshi replace Link, that's the closest he can get. (Besides, a Yoshi that's able to flutter-jump, eat enemies and turn them into throwable eggs would be quite an advantage over the other characters, don't you think?)

I know it is impossible to make Yoshi eat enemies, that's the exact reason I don't like the idea of Yoshi being the fifth character. But I guess I can just avoid playing the Yoshi levels. I didn't think about Yoshi being overpowered too. One more reason to not want Yoshi.

(I don't hate Yoshi, please don't kill me).

zlaker · Postby **zlaker** » Sat May 17, 2014 3:23 pm

Adding Yoshi as the 5th was a bad idea. It's not because I hate Yoshi, but it doesn't sound appealing. And revealing the character wasn't that good of a idea. Should've kept it as a secret IMO

Tepig2000 · Postby **Tepig2000** » Sat May 17, 2014 3:25 pm

Ice wrote:Adding Yoshi as the 5th was a bad idea. It's not because I hate Yoshi, but it doesn't sound appealing. And revealing the character wasn't that good of a idea. Should've kept it as a secret IMO

I'm sorry, but I agree with him here. It's not like I won't play the episode though. It's just that I would prefer Rosalina. Or Wario. Or Donkey Kong. Or Bowser. You get the point.

SuperWingedYoshi · Postby **SuperWingedYoshi** » Sun May 18, 2014 8:01 am

So what? Just have Yoshi as a regular character with no specific advantages or special abilities. The Power Of Stars isn't Yoshi's Island.
Besides, the other characters you're talking about would normally need to have special abilities, too, which all aren't possible in SMBX.
A realistic Yoshi would have to be able to eat enemies, throw eggs, ground-pound or flutter-jump.
A realistic Kirby would have to be able to eat enemies and gain their powers.
A realistic Wario would have to be able to attract coins.
A realistic Rosalina would have to be able to summon Lumas as guardians.
A realistic Bowser would have to be able to ground-pound, spit fire, throw hammers, run not as fast and jump not as high.
A realistic Donkey Kong would have to be able to throw barrels, walk very slowly, but jump very long.
With your argument, we couldn't have any custom characters anymore that aren't EXACTLY like already existing SMBX playables. Is that seriously what you want, Tepig2000 and Ice? Diversity is always good in my opinion, even if the characters aren't exactly like the originals. The point of custom characters is to be able to play as those characters, not to create a character that's better than all the others. Yoshi fans get to play as Yoshi. Bowser fans get to play as Bowser. Crash Bandicoot fans get to play as Crash. Understand what I mean?

zlaker · Postby **zlaker** » Sun May 18, 2014 8:15 am

It would be better to see a character you wouldn't expect in the game IMO

SuperWingedYoshi · Postby **SuperWingedYoshi** » Sun May 18, 2014 8:20 am

Ice wrote:It would be better to see a character you wouldn't expect in the game IMO

You regard Yoshi as an expectable character in an SMBX episode? I don't think so, honestly...

zlaker · Postby **zlaker** » Sun May 18, 2014 8:25 am

Adding him is not a mistake, but I don't like the idea. Rosalina would be better IMO

SuperWingedYoshi · Postby **SuperWingedYoshi** » Sun May 18, 2014 8:42 am

Ice wrote:Adding him is not a mistake, but I don't like the idea. Rosalina would be better IMO

Why do you think Rosalina would be better? She wouldn't be able to use Lumas in the episode. Why should she be any better choice than Yoshi? Just because she's much easier to modify? I think Mecha should go with the public opinion and make Yoshi the fifth playable.

zlaker · Postby **zlaker** » Sun May 18, 2014 9:36 am

SuperWingedYoshi wrote:
Ice wrote:Adding him is not a mistake, but I don't like the idea. Rosalina would be better IMO
Why do you think Rosalina would be better? She wouldn't be able to use Lumas in the episode. Why should she be any better choice than Yoshi? Just because she's much easier to modify? I think Mecha should go with the public opinion and make Yoshi the fifth playable.

This game is called The Power of STARS!Rosalina would for better IMO

SuperWingedYoshi · Postby **SuperWingedYoshi** » Sun May 18, 2014 9:58 am

Ice wrote:
SuperWingedYoshi wrote:
Ice wrote:Adding him is not a mistake, but I don't like the idea. Rosalina would be better IMO
Why do you think Rosalina would be better? She wouldn't be able to use Lumas in the episode. Why should she be any better choice than Yoshi? Just because she's much easier to modify? I think Mecha should go with the public opinion and make Yoshi the fifth playable.
This game is called The Power of STARS!Rosalina would for better IMO

Ever played Super Mario 64 DS? The four characters going on a hunt for stars in that game are Mario, Luigi, Wario and YOSHI. Which proves that Rosalina wouldn't be the only character to fit to the name of the episode.

Tepig2000 · Postby **Tepig2000** » Sun May 18, 2014 4:08 pm

I'm getting convinced that Yoshi is not a bad choice. It's just that it feels weird. The ridable Yoshis can use their tongues, so why the playable one can't?

SuperWingedYoshi · Postby **SuperWingedYoshi** » Sun May 18, 2014 4:25 pm

Because, unfortunately, it's not possible with SMBX, else Mecha would surely add it. All that can be done is to make Yoshi able to use his tongue to stab enemies like Link does it with his sword.
As I said, it's about the player's personal favoring, not about any advantages of a character over another character.

Tepig2000 · Postby **Tepig2000** » Sun May 18, 2014 4:32 pm

SuperWingedYoshi wrote:Because, unfortunately, it's not possible with SMBX, else Mecha would surely add it. All that can be done is to make Yoshi able to use his tongue to stab enemies like Link does it with his sword.
As I said, it's about the player's personal favoring, not about any advantages of a character over another character.

I know it's not possible in SMBX. That's why Yoshi doesn't make sense in the first place.

I just got an idea. What if he just stabs the enemies with his tongue because he doesn't like how the enemies taste? I feel tht if there is some explanation sotry-wise for why Yoshi does not eat enemies then I won't mind.

Lx Xzit · Postby **Lx Xzit** » Sun May 18, 2014 4:47 pm

SuperWingedYoshi wrote:Because, unfortunately, it's not possible with SMBX, else Mecha would surely add it. All that can be done is to make Yoshi able to use his tongue to stab enemies like Link does it with his sword.
As I said, it's about the player's personal favoring, not about any advantages of a character over another character.

Exactly, that's more or less my thought of Yoshi, but I'll Consider adding a new questionnaire, but this time with characters who similar capabilities of Link for not be too "weird" play with him.

I have seen a playable Yoshi replacing Link, and looks good, is not uncommon, but what says Ice is a good idea! to to add to Rosalina (Just as it happened in SM3DW, Mario, Luigi, Toad, Peach and Rosalina sounds good. ..)

Also the characters suggested by Tepig2000 are good ideas, unfortunately this is only SMBX, you can not add capacity through LunaDLL can only remove,
Soon you will see a new questionnaire, But This time with more options, and the fifth playable be similar to Link (In the functions)

SuperWingedYoshi · Postby **SuperWingedYoshi** » Sun May 18, 2014 5:16 pm

I personally would be more happy with Yoshi as the fifth character than with Rosalina. Why? Because I like Yoshi more (and as you confirmed, it's about the player's preferences, not about the characters' abilities/advantages), and because Rosalina couldn't replace Link well. Rosalina is rather a character replacing Peach, because of obvious reasons. No need to make a second poll, I don't feel at all like Yoshi replacing Link would be "weird". Besides, having any non-Mario characters as the fifth character would make it feel weird, too. Please keep Yoshi as the fifth playable.

Lx Xzit · Postby **Lx Xzit** » Sun May 18, 2014 5:26 pm

I really have no problem with Yoshi, the users prefer him, I prefer him, but something disturbed me a bit, as you can see I added an option in the questionnaire that says "other" wanted to make another encuenta to add more characters, but really people prefer to Yoshi, so he will be the fifth official player.

I will close the questionnaire.