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andreepika11233 wrote:ey, should you put in smb2 versions of walking Ninjis, smw versions of jumping Ninjis, porcupos, smw version of Pokeys, and gray goombas and also smb3 hammer bros. So we don't have to replace the gfx of the npc and modify the npc with txt files or lunalua?

IMO it's more worthwhile to add npcs which add new AI into the game, rather than reskins of existing ones with maybe a different hitbox or other npc txt stuff.

andreepika11233 wrote:ey, should you put in smb2 versions of walking Ninjis, smw versions of jumping Ninjis, porcupos, smw version of Pokeys, and gray goombas and also smb3 hammer bros. So we don't have to replace the gfx of the npc and modify the npc with txt files or lunalua?

• Custom graphics
• Custom graphics
• Custom graphics
• Custom graphics
• Custom graphics
• Custom graphics

Why can't you just use them?

PixelPest wrote:

andreepika11233 wrote:ey, should you put in smb2 versions of walking Ninjis, smw versions of jumping Ninjis, porcupos, smw version of Pokeys, and gray goombas and also smb3 hammer bros. So we don't have to replace the gfx of the npc and modify the npc with txt files or lunalua?

• Custom graphics
• Custom graphics
• Custom graphics
• Custom graphics
• Custom graphics
• Custom graphics

Why can't you just use them?

Example, someone is making a level with goombas but he has all goombas with custom gfx, he wants another one with custom gfx, so if they add another npc, then they can have another goomba with custom gfx and that is it.

andreepika11233 wrote:

PixelPest wrote:

andreepika11233 wrote:ey, should you put in smb2 versions of walking Ninjis, smw versions of jumping Ninjis, porcupos, smw version of Pokeys, and gray goombas and also smb3 hammer bros. So we don't have to replace the gfx of the npc and modify the npc with txt files or lunalua?

• Custom graphics
• Custom graphics
• Custom graphics
• Custom graphics
• Custom graphics
• Custom graphics

Why can't you just use them?

Example, someone is making a level with goombas but he has all goombas with custom gfx, he wants another one with custom gfx, so if they add another npc, then they can have another goomba with custom gfx and that is it.

There are 9 types of goombas.
If you occupy all of them you can modify shy guys and spinies.
If you have all of these replaced too you're approaching your level the wrong way.

If you're using so many different NPC's that you're running out of unique NPC then you're doing something wrong...

[edit]I got Ninji'd by Enjl

2.0 adding new NPCS is coolio! Can't wait for levels using Maverick Thwomps.

So, let's make a vote to either we get npc reskins in the next update or not.
http://www.strawpoll.me/embed_1/10584108

there's not going to be reskins regardless of your strawpoll. not only are reskins stupid and pointless, we also ran out of npc slots, so if you want any new npcs you're gonna have to wait until the npc range is extended...

andreepika11233 wrote:So, let's make a vote to either we get npc reskins in the next update or not.
http://www.strawpoll.me/embed_1/10584108

I love it when people think that a poll will magically make something happen.

There is a possibility though that by using pNPC.lua, you could apply a graphic only to a certain NPC in the array

PixelPest wrote:

andreepika11233 wrote:So, let's make a vote to either we get npc reskins in the next update or not.
http://www.strawpoll.me/embed_1/10584108

I love it when people think that a poll will magically make something happen.

There is a possibility though that by using pNPC.lua, you could apply a graphic only to a certain NPC in the array

Yeah, that's another thing. That's super easy to do.

Oh wow, this is looking better than I expected.

Damn, nice job guys, looking forward to proper maverick thwomps. Then the only thing left on my dream list will be diagonal projectile spawns.

Anyways, there are some custom api npcs made with lunalua before the ability to add npcs with without using lunalua was possible, like this and this.

andreepika11233 wrote:Anyways, there are some custom api npcs made with lunalua before the ability to add npcs with without using lunalua was possible, like this and this.

We're looking into adding these as as well as some other previously created enemies in the future. However, like snoruntpyro said, we ran out of npc slots for now.

Enjl wrote:

andreepika11233 wrote:Anyways, there are some custom api npcs made with lunalua before the ability to add npcs with without using lunalua was possible, like this and this.

We're looking into adding these as as well as some other previously created enemies in the future. However, like snoruntpyro said, we ran out of npc slots for now.

How did it ran out? It is by the amount of npc slots in smbx 2.0?
But 38a made new npc slots for his npcs in smbx 1.4.2, if we could figure how to add new npc slots, then we will get it in.

By the way, smbx 2.0's editor should be improved to be a remake of smbx 1.3's like smbx 1.4.2 did, maybe as a substitute of pge editor.

The devs behind thid and especially LunaLua itself have been trying to expand the NPC array for a while now, however without the source code that'd be rather difficult.

Also, you can't really compare this to 1.4.2, after all that one was made from scratch as opposed to 2.0 which modifies 1.3.

Also, editing the editor wouldn't really be feasible since practically no research has been done on it and PGE is already really good so it's definitely not as important as actual features.

andreepika11233 wrote: How did it ran out? It is by the amount of npc slots in smbx 2.0?
But 38a made new npc slots for his npcs in smbx 1.4.2, if we could figure how to add new npc slots, then we will get it in.

By the way, smbx 2.0's editor should be improved to be a remake of smbx 1.3's like smbx 1.4.2 did, maybe as a substitute of pge editor.

1.4.2 isn't a modification of 1.3, it's a completely new thing that breaks compatibility with 1.3's levels, and any levels made in it can't be used in 1.3 or 2.0, and it's not supported. And you can't edit the 1.3 editor without the smbx source code which only redigit has.

andreepika11233 wrote:How did it ran out? It is by the amount of npc slots in smbx 2.0?

We're using the hidden, dummy NPC slots for these new npcs. Unfortunately there's only 8. Finding a way to add more slots is a top priority for the beta after this one.

By the way, smbx 2.0's editor should be improved to be a remake of smbx 1.3's like smbx 1.4.2 did, maybe as a substitute of pge editor.

no

andreepika11233 wrote:So, let's make a vote to either we get npc reskins in the next update or not.
http://www.strawpoll.me/embed_1/10584108

The only reason NPC reskins exist as separate NPCs in the first place is (almost certainly) because they were added before custom graphics were implemented. Now that we have custom graphics and Lua there's really no good reason to add any more.

This is all looking extremely cool by the way, Horikawa. Thanks for being great.

What new NPCs use the eight slots? I know there's the 4 Horikawa showed, but I don't know about the rest.