The Invasion 3: Shadow Star

SuperMario7 · Postby **SuperMario7** » Tue Nov 04, 2014 4:59 pm

sezixor wrote:I am personally agenst the idea of restarting the project from scratch, as we have put forth so much effort to the levels that are currently complete. But as you said, we could remove some of them and replace them with new, vinilla levels to ballance out the level variety in the said worlds.

Yeah, that's basically what I mean. Let some of the designers who haven't made levels for this episode design some levels and replace some of the dated levels with these.

krazykat wrote:Why not the style of TI2 with CGFX present but dominating the entire game?

Do you mean not dominating? In that case, yeah, that sounds good for some levels.

AirSeus wrote:Why not have the heavily custom new levels as secret level/worlds, and then the main story could have the more light levels as the main story levels. (Basically what supermario7 said, but a bit different).

I was actually thinking about something like that, but a bit different. My idea would be we have invasion-like levels and newer-styled levels in the main game (all levels being original) and then have a bonus world that consists of remastered levels of the old invasion. I don't really want get into that because we have bigger things to focus on, but maybe we could think about that later if others like the idea.

Sux · Postby **Sux** » Tue Nov 04, 2014 5:00 pm

I want back to the team, how level designer and project moderator, if possible

mariofan 64 · Postby **mariofan 64** » Tue Nov 04, 2014 5:47 pm

Something tells me that LunaDLL is 100% required for the next game. That may as well apply for the next version of SMBX as well. How is that going, anyway?

zioy · Postby **zioy** » Tue Nov 04, 2014 5:53 pm

SuperMario7 wrote: Do you mean not dominating? In that case, yeah, that sounds good for some levels.

Yeah, sorry. Actually I wanted it like that for all levels, seems more Invasion-y. Maybe one world dedicated to "SMBX Community Standards Forest" (unless that sounds too jokey)

Postby **Magna** » Tue Nov 04, 2014 6:32 pm

Sux wrote:I want back to the team, how level designer and project moderator, if possible

Me too, except not the project moderator part.

Kyo · Postby **Kyo** » Wed Nov 05, 2014 12:19 am

I really think an alternative world would be nice, with the CGFX mode being the main mode, required to beat to unlock the alternative mode. Would give w9 a more special feeling as well.

mariofan 64 wrote:Something tells me that LunaDLL is 100% required for the next game. That may as well apply for the next version of SMBX as well. How is that going, anyway?

LunaDLL isn't going to be used.

mariofan 64 · Postby **mariofan 64** » Wed Nov 05, 2014 3:31 am

Kyo wrote:
mariofan 64 wrote:Something tells me that LunaDLL is 100% required for the next game. That may as well apply for the next version of SMBX as well. How is that going, anyway?
LunaDLL isn't going to be used.

Then why would the screenshots say what they say? DEMOS # / ### seems like it has to use DLL. I can understand if this come out as a base episode for the full release of PGE, but there would have to be a good update to SMBX first before this should come out.

Kyo · Postby **Kyo** » Wed Nov 05, 2014 7:45 am

mariofan 64 wrote:Then why would the screenshots say what they say? DEMOS # / ### seems like it has to use DLL.

The screenshots were taken with LunaDLL enabled. That doesn't mean those levels used LunaDLL. It's not going to be used because the majority of this community doesn't know how to configure their adblocker and don't feel like googling it.

Valtteri · Postby **Valtteri** » Wed Nov 05, 2014 2:20 pm

The majority supports keeping the community levels as is, and that we shall do. However, Red Yoshi got an interesting idea. We'll offer the player two paths to world 3. One with new Invasion esque levels and one with the community levels. I hope this solution satisfies both those who would miss the community levels and those who want the episode to stay true to the Invasion series.

Also, new subtitle. Shadow Star was actually another name for the Invasion 3 project. You see, like a week before Redigit had to take down SMBX, he presented this idea where the challenge mode would be expanded into a dimension, the Shadow Realm. More information coming soon. ;)

Danny · Postby **Danny** » Wed Nov 05, 2014 2:24 pm

Like fukken Shadow Star was the name of one of my episodes before I scrapped it entirely and then Kep went and used it and now what is this shit.

FanofSMBX · Postby **FanofSMBX** » Wed Nov 05, 2014 2:27 pm

If someone steals a name without knowing, are they a thief? Is it karmic for said unwitting thief to have "his" name stolen? Is it karmic for the second thief to have his re-stolen name stolen back by the originators, or are the originators committing a double crime?

Kyo · Postby **Kyo** » Wed Nov 05, 2014 2:42 pm

Nice subtitle. I was going to propose the subtitle idea again (since it was refused back then in United), but that's not going to be necessary, though.

The world split is good, but why just after world 3? That's a pretty random number. It should have been before or after the first world, or after the last world imo, unless the final of world 2 is something special.

mariofan 64 · Postby **mariofan 64** » Wed Nov 05, 2014 2:55 pm

Valtteri wrote:The challenge mode would be expanded into a dimension, the Shadow Realm.

By any chance he was a fan of Yu-Gi-Oh?
If I wish to guess, there would be puzzles, new kinds of bosses, and random difficulty levels in challenge. That is what I would like to see.

SuperMario7 · Postby **SuperMario7** » Wed Nov 05, 2014 2:57 pm

Kyo wrote:The world split is good, but why just after world 3? That's a pretty random number. It should have been before or after the first world, or after the last world imo, unless the final of world 2 is something special.

I thought it was up to W3, not after W3.

Anyway, I like the idea of a world split. I think I'd rather just replace some existing levels with vanilla levels (or just add some vanilla levels and have some alternate paths in the worlds, like play either 1-2 or 1-3). But yeah, the world split works for me. What are we going to do after that, though, in terms of vanilla levels or modern-styled levels? Are we going to mix different types of levels in a single world?

BTW I like the idea of the shadow realm too.

Danny · Postby **Danny** » Wed Nov 05, 2014 3:00 pm

FanofSMBX wrote:If someone steals a name without knowing, are they a thief? Is it karmic for said unwitting thief to have "his" name stolen? Is it karmic for the second thief to have his re-stolen name stolen back by the originators, or are the originators committing a double crime?

Darkonius Mavakar · Postby **Darkonius Mavakar** » Thu Nov 06, 2014 4:48 am

This alternative community worlds idea sounds great!

Nintendo59 · Postby **Nintendo59** » Thu Nov 06, 2014 2:37 pm

wow is it what i Think it is. the invasion 3 the continuation of the invasion 2????????

Valtteri · Postby **Valtteri** » Sun Nov 09, 2014 9:01 am

Our level designers have been hard at work and we've got five new levels done! We've tried to spice up the original style from The Invasion 2 but not too much specifically to satisfy both those who want to keep the classic style and those who want progressive level design. We sincerely hope the result pleases everyone!

Spoiler: show

The last screenshot is from a level Darkonius64 made for a special world that has levels themed after different games that was in the original Invasion 3 plan!

Kyo · Postby **Kyo** » Sun Nov 09, 2014 9:26 am

They look all really great! Good job.

zioy · Postby **zioy** » Sun Nov 09, 2014 6:13 pm

Valtteri wrote:Our level designers have been hard at work and we've got five new levels done! We've tried to spice up the original style from The Invasion 2 but not too much specifically to satisfy both those who want to keep the classic style and those who want progressive level design. We sincerely hope the result pleases everyone!

Spoiler: show

The last screenshot is from a level Darkonius64 made for a special world that has levels themed after different games that was in the original Invasion 3 plan!

I think this really gives off a TI2 feel. Good job guys!