New Additions to the Staff

[Shadow Yoshi]

- Work more on my English? So you're literally putting in doubt my own communication? I know English isn't my primary language, but I put all my efforts to speak as good as possible. And really, what is there to expect from someone used to another language?

- Unnecessarily Serious? Mind to name a single occasion except for the times I disagreed with you? Not saying that it's because of the fact I'm actually talking to you, but I really feel like I need to get serious in order to try to make you understand my points.

- Is it really that hard to believe I've been a GMod? Well if that's the case you can easily ask Chad, reghrhre, Magician, Emral, Raster ... pretty much anyone who has been in NSMBX and SMBX:R. I thank you for not questioning my moderating deeds in the past, but I would like to ask you to trust in the abilities of others, regardless of what they have done.

For instance, Knux. I know many people might not take him so seriously because of his past deeds, but that's exactly why you guys should take in consideration what he says, because it is based on PAST DEEDS. I don't care about what he has done anymore, because it belongs to the past, and honestly I wouldn't mind getting along with him now he wants to fix his mistakes.


Joey, I really thank you for explaining your reasons, I guess I'm done with this discussion, unless there's something I'd like to add or debate regarding anything interesting that anyone says.

I'm sorry, I should've worded my post better. What I meant to say was "I find it hard to take his previous staff positions into consideration". I know full well you had staff positions on other forums, don't worry.

As for your English skills, I don't want staff members to be susceptible to posting without proper grammar/spelling/etc.; this often comes with having English as your primary language.

I don't often take what Knux says heavily into consideration because a lot of it can relate back to his decisions as an administrator.

[Megar]

...so... no response to me, then? I might have been sarcastic as fuck, but it doesn't mean you can avoid me entirely.

[Panda]

I don't often take what Knux says heavily into consideration because a lot of it can relate back to his decisions as an administrator.

Usually what you were planning on doing is what I've already done in the past and has been a mistake.

Pretty much what I just interpreted is "Knux made bad decisions in the past so I'm just going to ignore him".
I don't know about you but that's a little unfair, ignorant and a little prejudiced to me.

[Shadow Yoshi]

Knux, just because something went wrong for you doesn't mean it's going to go wrong for me. I appreciate the advice, but you shouldn't get angry when I don't follow it.

...so... no response to me, then? I might have been sarcastic as fuck, but it doesn't mean you can avoid me entirely.

Not studying for your exams is your fault. Just because you did that doesn't mean we're obligated to promote you.

[DarkMatt]

I'd comment on Blueoak, but I do not have a grasp on the full situation and I'm under no obligation to fix that.

Seriously, people, why the fuck do you need to argue for a position shuffling digital text on a forum for a community about really liking a flashy video game about jumping on things and grabbing coins? The more I think about how far some of you nerds are going to act like you (or someone else) deserve the position instead, the more pathetic it gets. If anything, all slapfighting STILL is doing is hurting your credibility. Just how fucking antagonistic are some of you going to be until you realize you got nothing out of it, you wasted your time, and you acted like an ass for no reason?

Fuck all, if you want to act like you're a big boy and you deserve the big job, you fucking write to ME why you should be a mod. Stop whining and put up. I'm sick of your horse drivel and I'm sick of people who aren't stopping. Either handle this issue professionally, or don't post in this thread. Quit wasting everyone's time.

[Panda]

Just because you did that doesn't mean we're obligated to promote you.

You're missing the point. What he's saying is that he worked hard to try and get as many votes as possible (which he kinda did) and you just brushed it off and elected your own mods anyway. I've got nothing against Kley and GhostHawk, but people are pissed because you made a poll for the members to elect one new mod and you made your own judgements instead. I can't really speak without repeating what the others have said in a better way.

This could be related to hypothetical situations - for example, say if an election for a new political party was underway (much like it will be here next year) and, I dunno, liberals got the most votes from the public, but the Govt. says "yeah... we kinda... we thought the other one would be better so.. we sorta just empowered that one."
I get that these are different situations (hence I said hypothetical), but if the people want something and a poll is put in place for these kind of things then it only seems logical to follow the poll's outcome. Stop acting like the world is against you for no reason. You made a mistake and you're dodging it.

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Either handle this issue professionally, or don't post in this thread. Quit wasting everyone's time.

I don't know about anyone else but I wouldnt have called your post "handling the issue professionally" either.

[DarkMatt]

I don't know about anyone else but I wouldnt have called your post "handling the issue professionally" either.

At least I'm not going out of my way to refuse putting an end to this shitstorm.

Just take it to PMs if you have axes to grind. For god's sake, you can beat the dead horse all you want, but don't make it a public spectacle just because you don't get it.

[Raster]

Yes, this was wrong, the staff learned from their mistakes and they won't do that again. I think Joey made that pretty clear.

[Shadow Yoshi]

You're missing the point. What he's saying is that he worked hard to try and get as many votes as possible (which he kinda did) and you just brushed it off and elected your own mods anyway. I've got nothing against Kley and GhostHawk, but people are pissed because you made a poll for the members to elect one new mod and you made your own judgements instead. I can't really speak without repeating what the others have said in a better way.

Politicians spend millions of dollars and work very hard for their campaign. Most don't get elected.

This could be related to hypothetical situations - for example, say if an election for a new political party was underway (much like it will be here next year) and, I dunno, liberals got the most votes from the public, but the Govt. says "yeah... we kinda... we thought the other one would be better so.. we sorta just empowered that one."
I get that these are different situations (hence I said hypothetical), but if the people want something and a poll is put in place for these kind of things then it only seems logical to follow the poll's outcome. Stop acting like the world is against you for no reason. You made a mistake and you're dodging it.

That would be the government intervening where they shouldn't. I said from the beginning that the final decision was going to be made by the admins. Kley was, also, only trailing by 4 votes in the poll, so it's not like we promoted somebody who didn't receive close to the same support from the community. We have also already said that the voting system was flawed, as people began to vote for their friends and stuff. We got the top five, and then picked which ones we wanted. That's pretty much what we said we'd do.

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I said "thank you for your opinions" to Knux because he was expecting us to do what he said.

[Megar]

I'm only really annoyed because you did exactly what everyone expected in the end instead of what the rest of the community wanted - picked the two people who had been in the community the longest. I wouldn't have cared if you picked Natsu - he had the most votes, he should have won over me. But instead neither of us get a chance as the completely expected happens, despite the hopes of the community that you all might actually listen for once.

[Panda]

Yes, this was wrong, the staff learned from their mistakes and they won't do that again. I think Joey made that pretty clear.

And I spent the entire time warning Joey not to do this and he ignored me.

He should listen to me. I've made these mistakes.

Well, you know..

I don't often take what Knux says heavily into consideration because a lot of it can relate back to his decisions as an administrator.

[Shadow Yoshi]

I can't think of any of your mistakes that is equivalent to this, Knux, but feel free to share.

Also, once we started this it would've been a much worse idea to quit.

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Also, once we started this it would've been a much worse idea to quit.

...Why? You even admitted it was a mistake to have this election, and now you're saying that it would have been a bad idea to quit? That's contradictory, Joey.

[Shadow Yoshi]

Also, once we started this it would've been a much worse idea to quit.

...Why? You even admitted it was a mistake to have this election, and now you're saying that it would have been a bad idea to quit? That's contradictory, Joey.

That's not contradictory at all. If we just stopped the entire election and said "sorry this was a bad idea", we would've taken a lot more heat.

[Karl Marx]

I'm only really annoyed because you did exactly what everyone expected in the end instead of what the rest of the community wanted - picked the two people who had been in the community the longest. I wouldn't have cared if you picked Natsu - he had the most votes, he should have won over me. But instead neither of us get a chance as the completely expected happens, despite the hopes of the community that you all might actually listen for once.

........I don't think kley's been a part if the community all that long? I may be wrong....

[Valtteri]

........I don't think kley's been a part if the community all that long? I may be wrong....

Kley was one of the earliest members actually. And while I'm not saying we picked the new staff based on how long they've been around, it makes perfect sense for us to pick people who've been here for the longest as they have the best knowledge of the community and how to handle it.

[Raster]

........I don't think kley's been a part if the community all that long? I may be wrong....

Kley was one of the earliest members actually. And while I'm not saying we picked the new staff based on how long they've been around, it makes perfect sense for us to pick people who've been here for the longest as they have the best knowledge of the community and how to handle it.

This isn't the case for Kley as he wasn't present during the important community events.

[HeroOfRhyme]

........I don't think kley's been a part if the community all that long? I may be wrong....

Kley was one of the earliest members actually. And while I'm not saying we picked the new staff based on how long they've been around, it makes perfect sense for us to pick people who've been here for the longest as they have the best knowledge of the community and how to handle it.

This isn't the case for Kley as he wasn't present during the important community events.

On top of that, knowledge can slip a persons mind, especially if it was years ago. So while it's OK that you picked for knowledge, how do you know for sure that everything will be handled the proper way all the time?

[TLtimelord]

........I don't think kley's been a part if the community all that long? I may be wrong....

Kley was one of the earliest members actually. And while I'm not saying we picked the new staff based on how long they've been around, it makes perfect sense for us to pick people who've been here for the longest as they have the best knowledge of the community and how to handle it.

Kley was one of the earliest Super Mario Flash members, and, to my knowledge, that goes back further than SMBX.

[Karl Marx]

I just don't remember ever seeing kley around on knux's forum, that's all.....