M38 TAKE TWO: The Mafia Returns (TOWN VICTORY)

Postby **Julia Pseudo** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:44 pm

I was in jail last night, by the way, so there's a Jailkeeper.

Postby **Julia Pseudo** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:45 pm

Wait I feel dumb now - I was advising against saying this during round 1. It does provide some extra confirmation for us in the town, anyways.

MECHDRAGON777 · Postby **MECHDRAGON777** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:05 pm

You have to be kidding me. Why does the blues always die so soon. Better question, why do the pros that always die night one get the blue roles?

PersonNamedUser · Postby **PersonNamedUser** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:24 pm

Are you fucking kidding me? why is the town always so unlucky?

MECHDRAGON777 · Postby **MECHDRAGON777** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:48 pm

MosaicMario wrote:Are you fucking kidding me? why is the town always so unlucky?

You know we can still win this, right?

PersonNamedUser · Postby **PersonNamedUser** » Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:53 pm

MECHDRAGON777 wrote:
MosaicMario wrote:Are you fucking kidding me? why is the town always so unlucky?
You know we can still win this, right?

of course, it's just that this bad luck makes it harder.

Postby **Julia Pseudo** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:42 am

By the way, Nanaya Jacob said on Discord that he believes the Prostitute/Town Crier is still alive, because he is in contact with that player. I'm guessing it's the Prostitute, since no message appeared this morning.

Cedur · Postby **Cedur** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:47 am

I'm intimidated ...

Megar · Postby **Megar** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 3:14 am

Putting our current problems aside, we can actually use Shroom's being intimidated to our advantage. I figure the people who would intimidate him are the ones who he had some sort of read on so he doesn't make it harder for them, right? Just a matter of who.

Thehelmetguy1 · Postby **Thehelmetguy1** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 5:38 am

Fuck. Let's just hope the doc/lookout and the sheriff/mayor are still alive

PixelPest · Postby **PixelPest** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:19 am

Well we can't know now whether or not Shroom is safe now that he's intimidated

PersonNamedUser · Postby **PersonNamedUser** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:31 am

I think it's important to know at this point, but does anyone have an idea for a lead based on what happened last night phase?

Postby **Julia Pseudo** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 10:46 am

With Shroom blackmailed, we're probably not going to be able to hear anything from the blues until the night starts.

We should try to find a lead and lynch someone, though - as discussed on Discord at the end of round 1, this "no lynch on Day 1" pattern is not really how Mafia is supposed to work.

May I suggest that the sheriff (assuming they're still alive), working with Shroom in private, pick someone else who they believe to be trustworthy to be their temporary voice for the day? Any kind of knowledge would be really useful right now. The person who is chosen doesn't need to learn the sheriff's identity, necessarily.

Postby **ShadowStarX** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:23 am

I know you can't get too many leads out of kills, but I think we should look at the people who consider TNT and witchking a threat.

People who consider witchking a threat or have at least some reason to:
Waddle Derp - Doesn't trust Shroom as much as others. (at least from how I see it) Also doesn't talk about the game too much. I find this weird myself.
Sanct - Witchking basically made him lose in M34 (out of luck, though) and he found an exploit in M35. No evidence to look at.
Pseudo and Mechdragon777 - Well witchking infiltrated the blue alliance in M35 so they have some reason to fear him. No evidence to look at.
Thehelmetguy01 - Well he made the plan to set up the alliance so I'd consider him p. much innocent.

There are more people though who would consider TNT a threat, and I'd say those are the people who've been playing mafia for quite a long time. (or returned after a long period of time)
Zeldamaster12, Pseudo, Waddle Derp, Sanct, PaperPlayerX, Mechdragon777 and maybe Megar - Welp, no more leads since I've either already mentioned them and/or they haven't done anything odd.
So, the only one who seems kinda odd for me atm is Waddle Derp but the evidence is definitely NOT solid enough for a D1 lynch. (in my opinion at least)

Zeldamaster12 · Postby **Zeldamaster12** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:37 pm

I understand where you are coming from, Shadowstar. However, your suspicion list has a couple holes. It has always irked me that people try to use dirt from previous games to implicate someone. There's also the common misconception that if a "good" player dies N1, then odds are, the person who killed him was also a "good" player. This misconception needs to stop being used as evidence against the "good" players, as pretty much everyone playing now has played at least one game previously and can distinguish the "good" players from everyone else.

Postby **Valentine** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 3:25 pm

Honestly I share all of zeldamaster's frustrations.

Postby **ShadowStarX** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 5:04 pm

Well, thanks for the clarifications about this. Sorry for trying to find leads out of this.

MECHDRAGON777 · Postby **MECHDRAGON777** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:13 pm

Here is a question, if the jailer protects Supershroom on night 2, does that protect him from being intemidated?

PersonNamedUser · Postby **PersonNamedUser** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:15 pm

The role clearly states that it protects them from ALL abilities, so i'm pretty sure that the answer to that question is yes.

Thehelmetguy1 · Postby **Thehelmetguy1** » Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:38 pm

If the Jailkeeper is alive, he should protect Shroom each night. This is NOT time to be paranoic. In the last game, there were a lot of problems to the town and we almost lost because some blues were being paranoid.