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Re: Site Discussion Thread

Postby Shadow Yoshi » Sun Jan 03, 2016 10:19 pm

Yeah, and then they'll have to close every thread because people will start bad RPs. That's the problem. I don't want a bunch of "METAL GEAR NARUTROID ULTIMATE RP" threads around this forum. If we're gonna RP, it's going to be cohesive and intelligent. We can't expect an RP crossing three different universes like that to survive when most people here have never even RP'd before.

Unless you guys would rather do something like Campfire Tales, where the story is done without controlled characters and written through successive posts by different people (with obvious moderation and posting requirements so it doesn't turn into a "say a story" forum game, of course). That would make something involving Snake, Naruto, and Samus more feasible and accessible for this community.

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Re: Site Discussion Thread

Postby TLtimelord » Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:26 am

Joey wrote:Yeah, and then they'll have to close every thread because people will start bad RPs. That's the problem. I don't want a bunch of "METAL GEAR NARUTROID ULTIMATE RP" threads around this forum. If we're gonna RP, it's going to be cohesive and intelligent. We can't expect an RP crossing three different universes like that to survive when most people here have never even RP'd before.

Unless you guys would rather do something like Campfire Tales, where the story is done without controlled characters and written through successive posts by different people (with obvious moderation and posting requirements so it doesn't turn into a "say a story" forum game, of course). That would make something involving Snake, Naruto, and Samus more feasible and accessible for this community.
You can't guarantee EVERY thread will be like that. It doesn't hurt to at least try something and if it doesn't work, shut it down. We should at least acknowledge we tried it then and that may pose more satisfaction.

On an unrelated note, look at the members list. Something seems fishy.

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Re: Site Discussion Thread

Postby PersonNamedUser » Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:40 am

TNTtimelord wrote: On an unrelated note, look at the members list. Something seems fishy.
Yeah, that is weird, like 150 accounts mass-produced in 3 days.

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Re: Site Discussion Thread

Postby Sevennights » Mon Jan 04, 2016 4:32 am

First off...


Joey, no one will make an obscure and too edgy roleplay like that it is fucking retarted...
Now people could moderate (game masters or admims) decide what roleplays are good and what ones are bad, and when thwy turn out terrible, they could lock them up...
There could be ones that cross over to other games, franchise if, it made sense and game masters approved it, but no bb way is it going to be something you mentioned, that is just no...
Now if nothing works for increasing activity in the sub fourms then just get rid of them...

Also how does the member list seem fishy TNT, explain that to me.

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Re: Site Discussion Thread

Postby Saltlord » Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:02 am

Jacob wrote:Also how does the member list seem fishy TNT, explain that to me.
As MosaicMario said, a lot of new members joined in the past days, compared to the "normal" amount of new members. Just visit the member section and select members 2 times. And even if I, Koopa-Fan, shouldn't judge the names of other members, most of the names look like someone smashed his head against the keyboard.

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Re: Site Discussion Thread

Postby Sevennights » Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:23 am

Thats just spam...
Nothing to be fishy about, what is the real reason its fishy unless it is just mindless spam...

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Re: Site Discussion Thread

Postby Mable » Mon Jan 04, 2016 6:38 am

You guys care way to much about spam accounts.
MightyMerlinStyle wrote:But this is a SMBX forum.
Yeah we should remove
- all non mario stuff from this forum
-all the new non marioverse chars from smbx.
- all gfx, episodes and levels with non marioverse stuff

I agree with this guy.


I am joking oc.

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Re: Site Discussion Thread

Postby aero » Mon Jan 04, 2016 7:26 am

TNTtimelord wrote:On an unrelated note, look at the members list. Something seems fishy.
Well yeah, we're busy here talking about arbitrary restrictions on RP to make a forum full of kids act intelligent in a roleplaying section. Irrelevant stuff like site security can go on the back burner for another year. /s

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Re: Site Discussion Thread

Postby Shadow Yoshi » Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:03 am

Looks like the security question needed to be changed, so I took care of that. Thanks for pointing it out.
Jacob wrote:Joey, no one will make an obscure and too edgy roleplay like that it is fucking retarted...
Now people could moderate (game masters or admims) decide what roleplays are good and what ones are bad, and when thwy turn out terrible, they could lock them up...
There could be ones that cross over to other games, franchise if, it made sense and game masters approved it, but no bb way is it going to be something you mentioned, that is just no...
Now if nothing works for increasing activity in the sub fourms then just get rid of them...
Jacob, I hope you realize that we can't have roleplays, regardless of franchise, where posts are structured like this one. This is what I'm worried about.

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Re: Site Discussion Thread

Postby aero » Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:12 am

Joey wrote:Looks like the security question needed to be changed, so I took care of that. Thanks for pointing it out.
What does this mean? What was changed?

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Re: Site Discussion Thread

Postby Sevennights » Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:16 am

You do realize that most of the fourm can not have the "structured post" as they are not mature enough, and when I mean half of the fourm, I mean the children. You can not expect most.of the children to follow this, hell this may be their first time on the internet and they are h guy hyperactive or edgy... They're fucking children what do you expect? Most of the children of this generation are immature anyways. It rare to find children with the maturity as you, and that is the difference here. Unless you teach them yo act better on the fourm they may never learn, hell they they might be too stubborn to learn (Eric situation...)
So im other words, you think roleplaying should be removed completely... Yet there is a way to fix it, but you are going to just get rid of it. Well ok then as long as something is done with it I'm fine. I'll be disappointed, but at least something is fuckimg done. Now what about mafia, what should happen there?

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Re: Site Discussion Thread

Postby Shadow Yoshi » Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:37 am

AeroMatter wrote:
Joey wrote:Looks like the security question needed to be changed, so I took care of that. Thanks for pointing it out.
What does this mean? What was changed?
A mass of bots joined, which can indicate that the security question presented when registering (developers of Sm4sh) was cracked. I changed it, so hopefully that will fix it.
Jacob wrote:You do realize that most of the fourm can not have the "structured post" as they are not mature enough, and when I mean half of the fourm, I mean the children. You can not expect most.of the children to follow this, hell this may be their first time on the internet and they are h guy hyperactive or edgy... They're fucking children what do you expect? Most of the children of this generation are immature anyways. It rare to find children with the maturity as you, and that is the difference here. Unless you teach them yo act better on the fourm they may never learn, hell they they might be too stubborn to learn (Eric situation...)
So im other words, you think roleplaying should be removed completely... Yet there is a way to fix it, but you are going to just get rid of it. Well ok then as long as something is done with it I'm fine. I'll be disappointed, but at least something is fuckimg done. Now what about mafia, what should happen there?
Well if the forum can't make well-structured posts, then we can't have roleplaying!

I don't think roleplaying should be removed completely, nor did I ever confirm that was what's going to happen. Letting people make roleplays in whatever universe (effectively the OCverse) will not solve the problem.

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Re: Site Discussion Thread

Postby aero » Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:44 pm

Joey wrote:A mass of bots joined, which can indicate that the security question presented when registering (developers of Sm4sh) was cracked. I changed it, so hopefully that will fix it.
Well you could use a captcha and have the problem solved and settle the gripe from people having to google answers to the weak security questions that are put up. I don't know why you expect this to be a fix or a change since you're still having the same problems for what is now years.

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Re: Site Discussion Thread

Postby Shadow Yoshi » Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:58 pm

Captchas are weak and let bots in, which is why I don't use them.

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Re: Site Discussion Thread

Postby aero » Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:47 pm

And your security questions aren't? You can't automate registrations with captcha. You can automate with basic questions that have consistent answers like we see now. It's that simple.


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Re: Site Discussion Thread

Postby Shadow Yoshi » Mon Jan 04, 2016 2:11 pm

AeroMatter wrote:You can't automate registrations with captcha.
You can. This was why we got a huge wave of spam accounts back in 2014 that you ended up cleaning - I figured out it was because of the captcha because the problem was solved by adding the security question. It seems the bots figured out the answer a few months ago, which happens, so I changed the question and am willing to do so periodically.

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Re: Site Discussion Thread

Postby aero » Mon Jan 04, 2016 2:42 pm

It's a lot harder at the point where it's not practical to get a decent captcha automated - especially Google's - than it is to program a bot to enter an answer to a constant question. Flip flopping between the security question to the captcha and right back to a new security question can throw off a simple script because it needs to be updated to take the change into account, but that's all that's happening. Nothing is being fixed. I've never heard of a site owner that doesn't use some form captcha for important web form submissions like registrations, or even posting to be honest and I am sure the reason why we're still talking about this is because you're the only one I've seen that doesn't. Furthermore, you wouldn't need to change the question periodically if you had a captcha because that's what they're for. Each new registration would require a different response such as typing the correct words, selecting the right pictures, and they're all different every time.

Implement the Google no captcha recaptcha and I can guarantee that automated bots will not be able to register like this.

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Re: Site Discussion Thread

Postby Shadow Yoshi » Mon Jan 04, 2016 4:19 pm

I tried enabling reCAPTCHA and then learned that phpBB doesn't support the new version. I believe it's been added to the phpBB 3.2, but that probably won't come out for a while.

I've added more Q&A captcha questions, as I think it randomizes them (somehow) when new accounts are being registered.

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Re: Site Discussion Thread

Postby aero » Mon Jan 04, 2016 4:48 pm


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Re: Site Discussion Thread

Postby Julia Pseudo » Mon Jan 04, 2016 6:02 pm

A good captcha is definitely better than the Smash 4 security question, since they are somewhat randomized. The thing about the Smash question is that the bot owner can just give the bots the answer, since it's fixed. Captchas are a lot better at preventing bots from joining, anyways.


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