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Re: Super Mario Bros. X - Grand Extravaganza! (JUDGING PHASE BEGINS!)
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:38 am
by PixelPest
After the shenanigans that happened please remember that none of the plans or rules have changed. I've seen a few instances of people showing and discussing their levels: please do not do so. This is strictly against the rules and despite what Enjl did all of the rules still apply
Re: Super Mario Bros. X - Grand Extravaganza! (JUDGING PHASE BEGINS!)
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 10:03 am
by JupiHornet
and i thought svlc 2016 went south
Re: Super Mario Bros. X - Grand Extravaganza! (JUDGING PHASE BEGINS!)
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 10:09 am
by Emral
Lmao can't wait for you to lead it even further down the drain once you start enforcing dq's for rulebreaks.
Which would mean the rules changed tbh.
They were never intended to be followed with punishment.
Re: Super Mario Bros. X - Grand Extravaganza! (JUDGING PHASE BEGINS!)
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 10:35 am
by PixelPest
Enjl wrote:Lmao can't wait for you to lead it even further down the drain once you start enforcing dq's for rulebreaks.
Which would mean the rules changed tbh.
They were never intended to be followed with punishment.
What's the point of having rules if you don't have any consequences for breaking them. It really hasn't gone down the drain at all yet tbh. You just flipped out because not everyone's reviews were exactly in agreement with each other. That's literally the point of a judge panel: to have different opinions and viewpoints to provide feedback from a variety of perspectives which ends up levelling itself out in the end anyway. Just because you don't necessarily agree with this doesn't mean you should continue purposefully trashing this contest
Re: Super Mario Bros. X - Grand Extravaganza! (JUDGING PHASE BEGINS!)
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 10:43 am
by Snessy the duck
Still excited for the episode tho (If it ever gets made)
Re: Super Mario Bros. X - Grand Extravaganza! (JUDGING PHASE BEGINS!)
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 10:47 am
by Valentine
Alright then, brb submitting a level because we weren't supposed to enforce the rules
Re: Super Mario Bros. X - Grand Extravaganza! (JUDGING PHASE BEGINS!)
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 10:58 am
by TDK
Re: Super Mario Bros. X - Grand Extravaganza! (JUDGING PHASE BEGINS!)
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 11:03 am
by Snessy the duck
You should've PM'ed the judges.
Edit: God fucking damnit.
Re: Super Mario Bros. X - Grand Extravaganza! (JUDGING PHASE BEGINS!)
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 11:10 am
by PixelPest
Snessy the duck wrote:Still excited for the episode tho (If it ever gets made)
I'm looking forward to working on it
Re: Super Mario Bros. X - Grand Extravaganza! (JUDGING PHASE BEGINS!)
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 11:28 am
by glitch4
Re: Super Mario Bros. X - Grand Extravaganza! (JUDGING PHASE BEGINS!)
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 11:33 am
by Snessy the duck
Surprise, I was secretly making a level for this contest the entire time!
Link
Re: Super Mario Bros. X - Grand Extravaganza! (JUDGING PHASE BEGINS!)
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 11:41 am
by Emral
PixelPest wrote:Enjl wrote:Lmao can't wait for you to lead it even further down the drain once you start enforcing dq's for rulebreaks.
Which would mean the rules changed tbh.
They were never intended to be followed with punishment.
What's the point of having rules if you don't have any consequences for breaking them. It really hasn't gone down the drain at all yet tbh. You just flipped out because not everyone's reviews were exactly in agreement with each other. That's literally the point of a judge panel: to have different opinions and viewpoints to provide feedback from a variety of perspectives which ends up levelling itself out in the end anyway. Just because you don't necessarily agree with this doesn't mean you should continue purposefully trashing this contest
Enjl wrote:So yeah if you haven't heard I'm withdrawing my reviews.
Mivixion is a terrible host, the judge roster is somehow worse and any attempts I've made to save this forest fire have utterly failed in reducing how enthusiastically this event jumps down cliffs (getting a sane rubric that isn't based on marching bands, writing the thread and ruleset to minimize punishment for slipups, distributing non-broken versions of the levels to allow all levels to be judged fairly).
So I'm just gonna watch from a distance.
Please don't expect anything sane going into the results, everyone. Moderate expectations are already too high. Play the levels detached from what the judges will say and form your own opinions, because you might find your favourite level far down in the low ranks.
I mean I get why you're whitewashing the situation in a ditch effort to save it but by reducing my arguments to an easy to misunderstand sentence and lying to everyone won't accomplish anything.
I just feel bad for the levels at this point.
Re: Super Mario Bros. X - Grand Extravaganza! (JUDGING PHASE BEGINS!)
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 11:52 am
by Snessy the duck
Well, this contest is certainly going down the drain.
PixelPest wrote:Snessy the duck wrote:Still excited for the episode tho (If it ever gets made)
I'm looking forward to working on it
Good luck! Hope you'll have a good time working on it.
Re: Super Mario Bros. X - Grand Extravaganza! (JUDGING PHASE BEGINS!)
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:28 pm
by PixelPest
Snessy the duck wrote:Well, this contest is certainly going down the drain.
It's not at all. Even if one person doesn't agree and wishes to have a negative impact on this we're not going to let that affect the overall outcome of this contest. We've got some hardworking judges finishing up their reviews now (most people are actually close if not done even if the list hasn't been updated) and there's been a lot of fun levels coming out of this contest.
Enjl will be Enjl and we can't control that but don't let him get you down. We're still going full speed ahead
Re: Super Mario Bros. X - Grand Extravaganza! (JUDGING PHASE BEGINS!)
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:34 pm
by snoruntpyro
PixelPest wrote:and there's been a lot of fun levels coming out of this contest.
strange how you say that yet all i seemed to hear was every non-enjl judge saying how awful the levels were
Re: Super Mario Bros. X - Grand Extravaganza! (JUDGING PHASE BEGINS!)
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:37 pm
by Valentine
There's like 5-7 fun levels.
Most are boring or dull. But there are some fun levels.
There's also a couple of levels that try but ultimately fail to be engaging
Re: Super Mario Bros. X - Grand Extravaganza! (JUDGING PHASE BEGINS!)
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:45 pm
by Thehelmetguy1
I never saw Enjl this salty since I made a SMBX2 fake announcement
The sad of all this is that my level, that I consider a piece of crap got higher than a lot of levels there in Enjl's reviews.
Re: Super Mario Bros. X - Grand Extravaganza! (JUDGING PHASE BEGINS!)
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:47 pm
by PixelPest
snoruntpyro wrote:PixelPest wrote:and there's been a lot of fun levels coming out of this contest.
strange how you say that yet all i seemed to hear was every non-enjl judge saying how awful the levels were
Because there are a bunch that are relatively dull.
Despite this there are, as Sanct said (but I'd say even more than that), a significant number of enjoyable levels
Re: Super Mario Bros. X - Grand Extravaganza! (JUDGING PHASE BEGINS!)
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:50 pm
by PersonNamedUser
Know what saddens me? I thought that i had did a good job on my level, but it scored miserably in Enji's review.
Re: Super Mario Bros. X - Grand Extravaganza! (JUDGING PHASE BEGINS!)
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:53 pm
by snoruntpyro
PixelPest wrote:
Despite this there are, as Sanct said (but I'd say even more than that), a significant number of enjoyable levels
5-7 out of 31 isn't exactly a "significant amount".