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Re: Age-restricted forums

Posted: Sat May 02, 2015 5:05 am
by Vinyl Scratch
To be fair there is a difference between something aimed at younger audiences and something that is supposed to be family friendly

Re: Age-restricted forums

Posted: Sat May 02, 2015 2:12 pm
by Shadow Yoshi
No, those are pretty much the same thing.

COPPA means that I'm not allowed to collect any personally identifiable information from children under 13 without parental consent. It has nothing to do with posting.

I'll probably remove the COPPA group soon since it's not really necessary.

Re: Age-restricted forums

Posted: Sat May 02, 2015 3:03 pm
by MistakesWereMade
Joey wrote:
COPPA means that I'm not allowed to collect any personally identifiable information from children under 13 without parental consent.
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Re: Age-restricted forums

Posted: Sat May 02, 2015 3:53 pm
by Danny
Nien wrote:
Joey wrote:
COPPA means that I'm not allowed to collect any personally identifiable information from children under 13 without parental consent.
smbx staff confirmed pedophiles
Why would he need to collect any personally identifiable information from anyone on this forum in the first place?

smbx staff confirmed for nsa

Re: Age-restricted forums

Posted: Sat May 02, 2015 5:41 pm
by Vinyl Scratch
If you really want some type of quality control in this forum, an age restriction is one of the best bets you have
I mean, isn't this forum supposed to be professional and everyone should at least speak proper English?
I'm not saying the younger audiences can't do that..
But the majority of them cannot

Re: Age-restricted forums

Posted: Sat May 02, 2015 7:35 pm
by Bomber57
Vinyl Scratch wrote:If you really want some type of quality control in this forum, an age restriction is one of the best bets you have
I mean, isn't this forum supposed to be professional and everyone should at least speak proper English?
I'm not saying the younger audiences can't do that..
But the majority of them cannot
Which is a shame. I'm pretty sure I would type mostly like a functioning human being when I was about 8. What happened, people?

Re: Age-restricted forums

Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 9:21 am
by Shadow Yoshi
8bitmushroom wrote:
Nien wrote:
Joey wrote:
COPPA means that I'm not allowed to collect any personally identifiable information from children under 13 without parental consent.
smbx staff confirmed pedophiles
Why would he need to collect any personally identifiable information from anyone on this forum in the first place?

smbx staff confirmed for nsa
Birthday, email address, and location are all considered personally identifiable information regardless of whether or not the fields are required or verifiable. I could, hypothetically, remove all of those things from the signup process but that would do much more harm than good.
Vinyl Scratch wrote:If you really want some type of quality control in this forum, an age restriction is one of the best bets you have
I mean, isn't this forum supposed to be professional and everyone should at least speak proper English?
I'm not saying the younger audiences can't do that..
But the majority of them cannot
Yes, but we also have older members that still don't live up to the quality standard the staff sets. I'd rather control quality based on merit rather than age.

Re: Age-restricted forums

Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 11:53 am
by Danny
Joey wrote:but that would do much more harm
What harm?
Joey wrote:than good.
WHAT GOOD?!

Re: Age-restricted forums

Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 12:02 pm
by Shadow Yoshi
8bitmushroom wrote:What harm?
Not being able to use email features or birthdays.
8bitmushroom wrote:WHAT GOOD?!
Legally not having to comply with COPPA.

Re: Age-restricted forums

Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 12:32 pm
by Danny
Does the ability to not use email features or birthdays really mean harm or is that just an afterthought.

Re: Age-restricted forums

Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 7:38 pm
by Shadow Yoshi
Birthdays? Not so much. But if we don't use emails then we wouldn't get to use email account verification, nobody would be able to reset their password without an admin's help (opening the door to people impersonating others to get their passwords), and nobody would be able to receive email alerts for private messages or other things they subscribe to.

Re: Age-restricted forums

Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 10:04 pm
by Danny
Ah, that's what you mean by email features. That seems kind of dumb but I don't usually dabble in any COPPA things.

Re: Age-restricted forums

Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 3:27 pm
by Julia Pseudo
^
Yeah, it's a law in the United States.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children%2 ... ection_Act

Re: Age-restricted forums

Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 3:30 pm
by Shadow Yoshi
It is a law but I don't believe it's enforced much.

Re: Age-restricted forums

Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 4:04 pm
by JupiHornet
Pseudo-dino wrote:^
Yeah, it's a law in the United States.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children%2 ... ection_Act
I thought COPPA meant that you had to ban people under 13 from joining. I'm probably wrong so pls don't hate on me for being a Derp ;-;

Re: Age-restricted forums

Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 4:19 pm
by Julia Pseudo
^
Right, the law is that children under 13 should not be able to give up personal information on the Internet (for their own protection or whatever). Like Joey said it's not really enforced much though.

Re: Age-restricted forums

Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 4:29 pm
by Shadow Yoshi
I don't have to ban people under 13 or disallow them from joining, I just can't collect any personally identifiable information from them without parental consent.

Re: Age-restricted forums

Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 4:41 pm
by Danny
Does the COPPA apply anywhere anymore?

Re: Age-restricted forums

Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 5:05 pm
by sleepy
8bitmushroom wrote:Does the COPPA apply anywhere anymore?
No.

Re: Age-restricted forums

Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 5:51 pm
by Mable
Back on the old forum people under 13 got their acc deactivated. Back then half the forum was gone the.