My thoughts ... huh? Well, it did pretty much follow the typical trapped princes stereotype, though more than physically trapped, I would say it was more like mentally trapped. Elsa's parents didn't want her to hurt her little sister, so they decided to not let her out of her room until she learnt how to use her powers properly. Later on the movie, Anna is betrayed by Hans who appeared to be charming prince, though it was just pure appearance. If I'm allowed to say how I feel about that instead of separating thoughts from feelings I'd say that it was pretty touching.
Now, this is just personal, but this movie is still pretty different from the rest, and not in a good way. I'm more of a person that enjoys watching a movie than listening to music, and Frozen, more than a movie with music, was a music with story, in my opinion. Like, after 15 minutes or so another music started, and I really couldn't feel anything because of that. It's not that I dislike the music, but I feel like they could have saved some space for some real events instead of pure music. If I want to hear music I can watch Highscool Musical, not freaking Frozen.
It was a good movie otherwise. I enjoyed it pretty much.
So, once again, I found a pretty great frozen video (Ok the first one was fucking stupid, let's all just forget about it)
Although, I had much to reply about this video and it all wouldn't fit in a comment considering there's 96 things I had to reply to. So I kinda wasted my day writing up a response!
1.Cliche of opening narration replaced by its sinister cousin, opening singing.
Meh, I see what you're getting at. There's isn't much wrong here considering it sounds good and I think people these days are smart enough to collect what will be going on eventually 2.What? We already did the Disney logo with the fucking castle. Jesus, now we're doing multiple logo PER STUDIO in front of the film?
I love how he acts as if this is the first time Disney is doing this. It's not like they did it in 2008 with Princess and the Frog and in 2010 with Tangled. 3.Cute baby animal qualification? Fullfilled.
Because cute baby animals should DEFINITELY be qualified as a mistake. Kids love it, and I'm sure many adults do to. 4.Also, the director said, "I want you to have that baby raindeer eat a carrot, so he'll look like even more of an asshole."
Didn't know there was something wrong with an animal eating something to add onto the cute aspect. 5.Ice is stronger than a hundred men... unless you have a pick-axe
Your logic fails to meet up with mine. I can't find anything wrong here, nor can I find anything right. (Both your sin and the movie's) 6.Is ANYONE chaperoning this child?
I can see what you're getting at, LOL. However, lots of things fail to meet real life logic in animated movies, especially this one. 7.This large triangle is a "Fuck you" to sleep.
Anna wouldn't be awake and bugging Elsa if it weren't for this window, and the accident which caused the entire plot in this movie to thicken. 8.Animation? Princess? Magic? Disney movie is a go, people, Disney movie is a go for launch!
I fail to see how this is "Cinema Sin" as it's a Disney Princess tradition. 9.Movie rips off the "all the answers are in some old mysterious book" thing from Buffy the Vampie Slayer.
Accuses that this is a ripoff from a series. It's not like it's been done a million times before in movies. 10.This map looks really unhelpful.
Hence why he ignored it and it fell to the ground. 11.We interrupt this animated princess movie to bring you Galaxy Quest.
Haha, funny. What's not so funny is you're trying to pass off a joke as a sin. 12.You mean...you have the power to remove fun too?
Nitpicking at bad choice for words, eh? By fun, Papa Troll means memories of having fun with snow with Elsa. Are you normally this dense? 13.Yeah because you don't have and never will have the power to tell your sister, "no" when she asks you to do magic.
She was a kid at this part in the movie. What 7 year old kid wouldn't want to amuse their little sibling with a magic power they don't have? 14.I know a guy who teaches a summer class if you want to enroll.
Attempting to pass off a joke as a sin count: 2 15.Wait...I know this room is huge, but they still had to share a bedroom in this huge castle?
Rather clever catch of detail. Does it make sense they shared a bedroom? No. Does it matter at fucking all? No. 16.So does Anna really not see Elsa for years? The family never gets together and eats dinner or anything?
Hm, I'm not really sure how this would work out either. o.o 17.Also, why even bother erasing Anna's memory if Elsa is just going to stay behind a locked door the whole time?
Blame the stupid last minute changes for this. I believe it's because the parents wanted to take extra cautions and Elsa's fear got to all of them, except for ignorant little Anna. 18.This stunt is actually more dangerous than any of the ice games Anna and Elsa were playing before.
Heh, doesn't make much sense to me how in Medieval Arendelle there's bicycles. The Lopez' made some pretty great song choices in this movie, but they made some pretty shitty ones as well that the animation studio had to work around 19.Girl with super powers, dead parent cliche? This IS a superhero movie.
Attempting to pass off a joke as a sin count: 3 20.Look, if she's freezing up the entire room, including the DOOR she's leaning against, the her sister would definitely feel the cold, and probably be leaning against an ice block and not a door.
Good point, but that's a DOOR COVERED IN FROST on one side, NOT AN ENTIRE ICE BLOCK. Science, bro. 21.Eh... if I were in a relationship with this cartoon I'd probably still hit it if she let me.
Attempting to pass off a joke as a sin count: 4
Although, I'd probably too. 22.Also, this whole kingdom went for over a decade without seeing the princesses after the King and Queen died? They just... took the word of some random castle butler that the princesses were alive and well and shit?
I don't think you noticed the big words right after the "Do you wanna build a snowman" song that said "THREE MONTHS LATER" 23.You could not possibly grow up in this fucking behemoth castle without knowing you had 8,000 salad plates.
Shitty Lopez writing, man. I'm glad I'm not the only one who found that line dumb. 24.You and AC/DC should have a discussion about wordplay.
Attempting to pass off a joke as a sin count: 5 25.Um, Neo is a Warner Brothers character, so I'm not sure how you think that would happen, but princesses gotta dream, I guess. Or wait... did you mean Jet Li?
Attempting to pass off a joke as a sin count: 6 26.Haha, you women and your chocolate.
It's a cliche that the animators decided to take a nab at. I don't see how this counts as a sin. 27.It seems like these gloves do a good job keeping the ice from happening... so why did Elsa need to lock herself in a room for all these years?
I could go into lots of reasons about this, but I'll just direct you to her frost-covered room instead! 28.This girl's motivation changed from hanging out with her sister to finding true love in the blink of an eye!
I'm sure if you were locked in a castle for 10 years and got out for one day, you'd start dreaming up some cheesy shit as well. 29.This is a princess, right? Heir to the f*cking throne?! Not one person guarding her or keeping an eye on her? This kingdom is run by fucking idiots.
I don't, know she went out the gates pretty damn fast. I would assume there'd be guards all over the place looking for her, but this is cartoon logic, and this movie tends to defy that as well. 30.Since we find out Hans is a bad guy later, this little moment of him smiling like he's a good guy while no one is around is a bit of a cheat in the narrative.
FINALLY, an ACTUAL sin that people should care about! Give this man a cookie! 31.Yes, everyone knows the rules about how coronations aren't valid if the queen-to-be is wearing gloves when grabbing the scepter.
Which is why the pastor alerted her of that. I don't know how this counts as a sin. 32.This ice makes serious progress on these royal items and no one in the entire hall notices it.
Meh, I don't understand how no one sees it either. It's that peeve I have with cartoon movies where it looks like the progress on something is a LOT further than the movie makes it seem. 33.Is this the first time they've seen or spoken to each other in like, a decade?
Possibly. Probably. That's what the movie creators intended, I think. 34.Haha, you women and...
I don't see how this... 35.Is there any reason you can't tell your sister about your powers now that you're both adults? When the trolls recommended you keep it from her... she was, like, 6!
It's cinema-created drama that's kinda needed in a movie with a bad or rushed plot. This is just another plothole they lazily filled in. 36."Falling in love in one evening montage" cliche
Did I hate it when I first saw it? Of course! c: 37.The guard obviously sees suspicious activity but decides, "Eh, fuck it"
Maybe because he saw the princess screwing around and didn't bother? 38.How the fuck would they have been able to climb a room this steep?!
Cartoon logic. 39.We are nearly 30 full minutes into this 90 minute movie, and while the kingdom and the princesses are pretty well established, there is no real sign of conflict. And I honestly can't tell who the main character is... Elsa or Anna.
My best guess is that it's about the buildup before Elsa's big fuckup. I'd also ask you: which of the two sisters have we seen more of so far? 40.Dammit all, is this movie doing the whole "simple misunderstanding that real people would never have because they ask questions and have normal human conversations about it" thing?!! She would rather Encino Man her sister than just tell her the truth?
It appears so, because Anna is an incredibly stupid and obnoxious character. She would find a way to freeze herself again, and she did. 41.With a kingdom that plays things this loosey-goosey, you'd think some other kingdom would have long ago taken over this place. It's not like anyone's actually in charge of anything here.
I actually agree with you here once again. 42.So... is she empowered now? Or is... she the villain now?
Lots of people probably had this question. I honestly didn't care as I'm too focused on her looks. 43."Horse abandones the hero for no other reason than the plot" cliche.
I could probably realistically see a horse running away in panic if a big clump of ice fell on it. My question is how the fuck did the horse conveniently make it back to Arendelle unhurt, considering there's WOLVES. 44.Nope. Sorry. Hypothermia. This chick is dead.
It's called cartoon violence. They'll do anything to the cartoon character for comedy without killing them. (See: Tom and Jerry) 45.Wait... if the whole land is covered in icy cold winter that can't go away because, you know, it's so cold that the sun can't melt the ice then... how is there a running stream for Anna to fall into?
I'm not sure. I've seen streams running up in the Rocky Mountains before in the dead of winter. I'd say cartoon and comedy logic, but I don't know. 46.Also, if there is a chance to get EVEN MORE hypothermia, this is it.
Cartoon violence and comedy logic. 47.Snowshoes are known for their excellent comic timing.
Would you rather look at a screen where nothing is moving for 7 seconds? 48.Also, this is a terrible way to store bread.
I'm struggling to see how anyone would notice OR care. I do see your point though. 49.Did the writers just sneak in a "size doesn't matter" joke into this kids' movie?
Not really. You just have a dirty mind. 50.Well, good things these wolves have evolved to have eyes that can glow on cue or else humans wouldn't have a chance.
Do you not know how some animal eyes work? Their eyes will appear to glow when even a little bit of light is shining on them in that level of darkness. 51.Was setting it on fire necessary? Wouldn't the sheer force of being hit by the bundle be enough?
Better be safe than sorry. Then again, throwing a fiery sleeping bag and just barely missing Kristoff kinda makes that statement obsolete here. 52.This is like a family version of The Grey-too bad Liam Neeson isn't here to threaten to beat someone to death over a fucking billfold.
Attempting to pass off a joke as a sin count: 7 53.I'm sorry... even when you're a cartoon, you should be dead... gripping a snowy cliff with gloves? At the very least, do like Wile E Coyote and crash into the bottom of the canyon with a satisfying "poof."
"There's 20 feet of fresh snow down there, it should be like landing on a pillow."
Attempting to pass off a joke as a sin count: 8 54.I like this shot, but... where the fuck are they going right now?
To North Mountain of course... and get completely lost on the way...? 55.Roll credits!
A better thing to say would have been "Aaahhh, he said it!"
Attempting to pass off a joke as a sin count: 9 56.Anna is a dick to snowmen she's just met.
Would you rather have a dull character that just stares at him blankly? 57.Well, shit, I can't be upset about a talking snowman, even if I wanted to be... not after this movie started out with magical rock trolls. But I can always just award another sinn here for the magical rock trolls, because it's not like that's gotten any less stupid at this point.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who really hates the rock trolls. 58.Come on... I mean, you definitely don't remember anything about Olaf because of the magic trolls at the beginning. And surely if you remember Olaf, you'd remember your sister, the ice games you played, and getting knocked unconscious, and all of this could have been avoided in the first place.
Well, Olaf never came to life when they were kids, and I think I remember Papa troll saying "don't worry, I leave the fun." All papa troll took away was the memories of the MAGIC. Some things you pay too much attention to, other things you don't pay enough attention to. 59.Also, when did Elsa's power change from being able to create snow and ice... to being able to create living conscious beings out of snow?
How else was the movie supposed to get in a hilarious and lovable chracter in? Also, Elsa from later in the movie: "I never knew what I was capable of" 60.Aw,man, but who are YOU going to leave in charge of Arendelle?
I'm sure the servents or cabinet or whatever the hell is in the castle besides Anna and Elsa probably get in charge at this point. 61.Gradus-Ex-Machina
Attempting to pass off a joke as a sin count: 10 62.Impeccable logic. I mean, those were way different circumstances-and what, is she going to EXTRA freeze the already-frozen country if she gets upset this time?
I do agree that Anna has a poor sense of judgement. Although, we saw how Elsa started literally covering giant ice crystals all over the interior of the castle and the blizzard over the fjord. 63.Snowman who has no idea how the sun's heat would melt him does have a concept of time.
Comedy logic. I never said this was an excuse BTW, it just explains the mistake. 64.So what does Elsa eat out here? Or do magical beings not need food?
I never thought of this. I, once again, was fixated on her looks. 65.Now that's just musical cheating.
I know, right?! There actually are a lot of better word choices there could have been here. 66.OK, so this isn't the "Abominable Snowman"? And you're just basically going to take the Ghostbusets' villain name? Sure, they don'e call him "Marshmallow Man" but they might as well.
Who besides you says they literally took the name? 67.It's a good thing Anna got it with the icy blast with Kristoff around, the one guy who's made friends with the magic trolls.
Well, Kristoff wasn't technically in the room when Anna got blasted. He was there after it happened. Hey, coincidences don't mean sins. 68.And... you're not putting 2 and 2 together and realizing she's the exact same girl somehow.
Dumb and Dumber, amiright? On a serious note, it was ten years before and he probably didn't get a chance to look closely on the girl they were doing magic on. 69.I like Josh Gad as much as the next guy, but he clearly watched too much Ice Age before making this movie. His character is a Discount Sid if I ever saw one.
I'm sorry, but I fail to see how Sid and Olaf are similar. 70.Trolls wait just long enough to come alive for some reason so Anna can think Kristoff is crazy.
They waited a while before coming alive to the King and Queen when they visited the first time. 71.We came here to heal the girl who got struck by an ice blast, but sure, let's so a quick number first. God, this ENTIRE movie only happens because NO ONE says the obvious shit they should say at the right time.
Needlessly stupid characters mixed in with obnoxious trolls who didn't let Kristoff or Anna say what they need to anyway. 72.OK, so these trolls are "love experts." When did "saving people from icy blasts to the head" enter the picture?
They appear to be decent in general magic if you didn't notice. They aren't JUST "love experts" or "things who save people from fatal ice blasts" 73.Oh my god!
Hey, at least it isn't a true love's kiss, neither does it have to happen at midnight. 74.Use your ice powers to make a wall of ice, and keep these guys from doing anything! Is it that hard all of the sudden?
That would cause a long boring scene of them breaking the ice and giving you something to bitch even more about. 75.No way they ran up those stairs that fast, even in the cartoon world. They should have slipped and slid all the way up, too.
While I do admit they did make it up those stairs unbelievably fast, I bet you'd be bitching about Elsa sitting there for 30 seconds while these idiots struggle up icy stairs. 76.This dude just sits here and watches, not firing, while the queen slowly imprisons his buddy!
It would have been pretty cool to see Elsa simultaneously taking on these two sonofabitches as well. 77.Unnecessary orders.
I'm sure realistically a lot of guys with the kind of personality Kristoff has would say the same. 78.Hans is suddenly evil because, well, we needed another 15 minutes out of this script, and also we had two decent guys for her to fal in love with, and this way she doesn't have to make a choice.
Once again, the movie does a shitty job covering up a plothole. 79.Also, wouldn't it be logical for the ice-loving Kristoff to fall in love with the Ice Queen? Two perfect guys, two perfect girls, and the sniveling Weselton guy could have been the villain trying to overthrow Arendelle. Instead, this movie is so focused on trying to pull the rug out from the audience and be surprising it loses common sense.
I... actually would have been almost completely fine with this, minus Kristoff being with Elsa. I'm sorry, it's just my opinion. 80.<sigh>
Cliche villain boasting. All we need next was the maniacal laugh. 81.More of those amazing doors to a common room that can lock people in from the outside...lucky Anna came to this room so Hans could begin his evil plan.
Judging from the handle I see, it looks like it could lock either way. I could be just be doing a shitty job paying attention to detail. 82.Frozen turned the "flat metal object that can open doors and start cars" into a carrot... because carrots open locked doors now.
Yeah, it's funny to see him open the door with the carrot and it's cartoon logic once again, but I do also think there could have been a better way to bring Olaf into this scene. 83.Also, how the fuck did he know Anna was in here?
That's... a decent question. 84.Also, maybe she should be dead by now? Elsa's ice tends to move quickly, and her heart's been frozen for days now.
That's an exaggeration. It's been likely 8-12 hours at the most. 85.Guy who wants to kill the queen just stares at her when she drops to her knees and turns her back.
Gotta work at one stage at a time, intense moment! Gotta work one character's emotions in at a time so the kids can take it all in easily and not need to think it over! 86.Major sword delay from Hans here. That's supposed to happen in older men.
Yes, I can safely admit it looks kind of dumb, as if he's in slow motion but SUDDENLY Anna isn't. Some things they spent more time animating in this movie than other things (Snowflakes, hair) 87."Act of true love" magic takes a long-ass time to start working after the actual act of true love.
Disney magic tends to delay for an annoying amount of time. Gotta stretch out the sad moment for time. 88.If Maureen Johnson is suggesting to Veronica Mars what I think she is...then that beats my fan fiction and rough sketches.
Attempting to pass off a joke as a sin count: 11 89.Elsa, do you think maybe you could wait until we're not standing out in the middle of a frozen lake to start thawing the whole city?
No. Love and Disney Magic only work in the moment. 90.Also, Elsa masters her newfound love magic INSTANTLY. Shit, she still doesn't know how to use her ice powers properly without killing people!
An act of true love can thaw a frozen heart. It's the answer to life, the universe, everything, and controlling your ice powers. 91.I'm calling bullshit on this "they were on a boat the whole time" nonsense here, because they are CLEARLY on a boat back before the thawing started.
I'm going to go on a whim and say there's a boat close by that is off screen. 92.We never really got an answer on how her ice magic managed to create a sentient being But fuck it, I guess. We've got ice-skating to do.
I like that idea, because I never see an answer either. 93.These assholes had no idea Hans had turned evil. That all happened down at the ice lake, in the middle of the blizzard they couldn't see through... but hey, the princess just punched a dude, so, yuk it up everyone.
Don't tell me the punch wasn't satisfactory, because it damn well was. 94.I'm pretty sure you can't leave your boat frozen in the middle of the lake all winter and then have it work just fine.
Well, considering the winter was like 3 days tops 95.We're not sure how to end this thing. Eh, just slowly pull back and swell up the music.
Hey, I'm happy with it. It's personal opinion I guess. 96.Also, and Island kingdom, a long-unseen princess locked away, horse/reindeer playfulness, wild-scoundrel love interest... I swear to god this movie and Tangled started out as the same script.
Those were practically the only similarities.
Sentence: DEATH BY POISON (sandwiches)
... I'll take this as a compliment because why the fuck not.
Now... how badly of an idiot did I make myself look?
TNTtimelord wrote:So, once again, I found a pretty great frozen video (Ok the first one was fucking stupid, let's all just forget about it)
Although, I had much to reply about this video and it all wouldn't fit in a comment considering there's 96 things I had to reply to. So I kinda wasted my day writing up a response!
1.Cliche of opening narration replaced by its sinister cousin, opening singing.
Meh, I see what you're getting at. There's isn't much wrong here considering it sounds good and I think people these days are smart enough to collect what will be going on eventually 2.What? We already did the Disney logo with the fucking castle. Jesus, now we're doing multiple logo PER STUDIO in front of the film?
I love how he acts as if this is the first time Disney is doing this. It's not like they did it in 2008 with Princess and the Frog and in 2010 with Tangled. 3.Cute baby animal qualification? Fullfilled.
Because cute baby animals should DEFINITELY be qualified as a mistake. Kids love it, and I'm sure many adults do to. 4.Also, the director said, "I want you to have that baby raindeer eat a carrot, so he'll look like even more of an asshole."
Didn't know there was something wrong with an animal eating something to add onto the cute aspect. 5.Ice is stronger than a hundred men... unless you have a pick-axe
Your logic fails to meet up with mine. I can't find anything wrong here, nor can I find anything right. (Both your sin and the movie's) 6.Is ANYONE chaperoning this child?
I can see what you're getting at, LOL. However, lots of things fail to meet real life logic in animated movies, especially this one. 7.This large triangle is a "Fuck you" to sleep.
Anna wouldn't be awake and bugging Elsa if it weren't for this window, and the accident which caused the entire plot in this movie to thicken. 8.Animation? Princess? Magic? Disney movie is a go, people, Disney movie is a go for launch!
I fail to see how this is "Cinema Sin" as it's a Disney Princess tradition. 9.Movie rips off the "all the answers are in some old mysterious book" thing from Buffy the Vampie Slayer.
Accuses that this is a ripoff from a series. It's not like it's been done a million times before in movies. 10.This map looks really unhelpful.
Hence why he ignored it and it fell to the ground. 11.We interrupt this animated princess movie to bring you Galaxy Quest.
Haha, funny. What's not so funny is you're trying to pass off a joke as a sin. 12.You mean...you have the power to remove fun too?
Nitpicking at bad choice for words, eh? By fun, Papa Troll means memories of having fun with snow with Elsa. Are you normally this dense? 13.Yeah because you don't have and never will have the power to tell your sister, "no" when she asks you to do magic.
She was a kid at this part in the movie. What 7 year old kid wouldn't want to amuse their little sibling with a magic power they don't have? 14.I know a guy who teaches a summer class if you want to enroll.
Attempting to pass off a joke as a sin count: 2 15.Wait...I know this room is huge, but they still had to share a bedroom in this huge castle?
Rather clever catch of detail. Does it make sense they shared a bedroom? No. Does it matter at fucking all? No. 16.So does Anna really not see Elsa for years? The family never gets together and eats dinner or anything?
Hm, I'm not really sure how this would work out either. o.o 17.Also, why even bother erasing Anna's memory if Elsa is just going to stay behind a locked door the whole time?
Blame the stupid last minute changes for this. I believe it's because the parents wanted to take extra cautions and Elsa's fear got to all of them, except for ignorant little Anna. 18.This stunt is actually more dangerous than any of the ice games Anna and Elsa were playing before.
Heh, doesn't make much sense to me how in Medieval Arendelle there's bicycles. The Lopez' made some pretty great song choices in this movie, but they made some pretty shitty ones as well that the animation studio had to work around 19.Girl with super powers, dead parent cliche? This IS a superhero movie.
Attempting to pass off a joke as a sin count: 3 20.Look, if she's freezing up the entire room, including the DOOR she's leaning against, the her sister would definitely feel the cold, and probably be leaning against an ice block and not a door.
Good point, but that's a DOOR COVERED IN FROST on one side, NOT AN ENTIRE ICE BLOCK. Science, bro. 21.Eh... if I were in a relationship with this cartoon I'd probably still hit it if she let me.
Attempting to pass off a joke as a sin count: 4
Although, I'd probably too. 22.Also, this whole kingdom went for over a decade without seeing the princesses after the King and Queen died? They just... took the word of some random castle butler that the princesses were alive and well and shit?
I don't think you noticed the big words right after the "Do you wanna build a snowman" song that said "THREE MONTHS LATER" 23.You could not possibly grow up in this fucking behemoth castle without knowing you had 8,000 salad plates.
Shitty Lopez writing, man. I'm glad I'm not the only one who found that line dumb. 24.You and AC/DC should have a discussion about wordplay.
Attempting to pass off a joke as a sin count: 5 25.Um, Neo is a Warner Brothers character, so I'm not sure how you think that would happen, but princesses gotta dream, I guess. Or wait... did you mean Jet Li?
Attempting to pass off a joke as a sin count: 6 26.Haha, you women and your chocolate.
It's a cliche that the animators decided to take a nab at. I don't see how this counts as a sin. 27.It seems like these gloves do a good job keeping the ice from happening... so why did Elsa need to lock herself in a room for all these years?
I could go into lots of reasons about this, but I'll just direct you to her frost-covered room instead! 28.This girl's motivation changed from hanging out with her sister to finding true love in the blink of an eye!
I'm sure if you were locked in a castle for 10 years and got out for one day, you'd start dreaming up some cheesy shit as well. 29.This is a princess, right? Heir to the f*cking throne?! Not one person guarding her or keeping an eye on her? This kingdom is run by fucking idiots.
I don't, know she went out the gates pretty damn fast. I would assume there'd be guards all over the place looking for her, but this is cartoon logic, and this movie tends to defy that as well. 30.Since we find out Hans is a bad guy later, this little moment of him smiling like he's a good guy while no one is around is a bit of a cheat in the narrative.
FINALLY, an ACTUAL sin that people should care about! Give this man a cookie! 31.Yes, everyone knows the rules about how coronations aren't valid if the queen-to-be is wearing gloves when grabbing the scepter.
Which is why the pastor alerted her of that. I don't know how this counts as a sin. 32.This ice makes serious progress on these royal items and no one in the entire hall notices it.
Meh, I don't understand how no one sees it either. It's that peeve I have with cartoon movies where it looks like the progress on something is a LOT further than the movie makes it seem. 33.Is this the first time they've seen or spoken to each other in like, a decade?
Possibly. Probably. That's what the movie creators intended, I think. 34.Haha, you women and...
I don't see how this... 35.Is there any reason you can't tell your sister about your powers now that you're both adults? When the trolls recommended you keep it from her... she was, like, 6!
It's cinema-created drama that's kinda needed in a movie with a bad or rushed plot. This is just another plothole they lazily filled in. 36."Falling in love in one evening montage" cliche
Did I hate it when I first saw it? Of course! c: 37.The guard obviously sees suspicious activity but decides, "Eh, fuck it"
Maybe because he saw the princess screwing around and didn't bother? 38.How the fuck would they have been able to climb a room this steep?!
Cartoon logic. 39.We are nearly 30 full minutes into this 90 minute movie, and while the kingdom and the princesses are pretty well established, there is no real sign of conflict. And I honestly can't tell who the main character is... Elsa or Anna.
My best guess is that it's about the buildup before Elsa's big fuckup. I'd also ask you: which of the two sisters have we seen more of so far? 40.Dammit all, is this movie doing the whole "simple misunderstanding that real people would never have because they ask questions and have normal human conversations about it" thing?!! She would rather Encino Man her sister than just tell her the truth?
It appears so, because Anna is an incredibly stupid and obnoxious character. She would find a way to freeze herself again, and she did. 41.With a kingdom that plays things this loosey-goosey, you'd think some other kingdom would have long ago taken over this place. It's not like anyone's actually in charge of anything here.
I actually agree with you here once again. 42.So... is she empowered now? Or is... she the villain now?
Lots of people probably had this question. I honestly didn't care as I'm too focused on her looks. 43."Horse abandones the hero for no other reason than the plot" cliche.
I could probably realistically see a horse running away in panic if a big clump of ice fell on it. My question is how the fuck did the horse conveniently make it back to Arendelle unhurt, considering there's WOLVES. 44.Nope. Sorry. Hypothermia. This chick is dead.
It's called cartoon violence. They'll do anything to the cartoon character for comedy without killing them. (See: Tom and Jerry) 45.Wait... if the whole land is covered in icy cold winter that can't go away because, you know, it's so cold that the sun can't melt the ice then... how is there a running stream for Anna to fall into?
I'm not sure. I've seen streams running up in the Rocky Mountains before in the dead of winter. I'd say cartoon and comedy logic, but I don't know. 46.Also, if there is a chance to get EVEN MORE hypothermia, this is it.
Cartoon violence and comedy logic. 47.Snowshoes are known for their excellent comic timing.
Would you rather look at a screen where nothing is moving for 7 seconds? 48.Also, this is a terrible way to store bread.
I'm struggling to see how anyone would notice OR care. I do see your point though. 49.Did the writers just sneak in a "size doesn't matter" joke into this kids' movie?
Not really. You just have a dirty mind. 50.Well, good things these wolves have evolved to have eyes that can glow on cue or else humans wouldn't have a chance.
Do you not know how some animal eyes work? Their eyes will appear to glow when even a little bit of light is shining on them in that level of darkness. 51.Was setting it on fire necessary? Wouldn't the sheer force of being hit by the bundle be enough?
Better be safe than sorry. Then again, throwing a fiery sleeping bag and just barely missing Kristoff kinda makes that statement obsolete here. 52.This is like a family version of The Grey-too bad Liam Neeson isn't here to threaten to beat someone to death over a fucking billfold.
Attempting to pass off a joke as a sin count: 7 53.I'm sorry... even when you're a cartoon, you should be dead... gripping a snowy cliff with gloves? At the very least, do like Wile E Coyote and crash into the bottom of the canyon with a satisfying "poof."
"There's 20 feet of fresh snow down there, it should be like landing on a pillow."
Attempting to pass off a joke as a sin count: 8 54.I like this shot, but... where the fuck are they going right now?
To North Mountain of course... and get completely lost on the way...? 55.Roll credits!
A better thing to say would have been "Aaahhh, he said it!"
Attempting to pass off a joke as a sin count: 9 56.Anna is a dick to snowmen she's just met.
Would you rather have a dull character that just stares at him blankly? 57.Well, shit, I can't be upset about a talking snowman, even if I wanted to be... not after this movie started out with magical rock trolls. But I can always just award another sinn here for the magical rock trolls, because it's not like that's gotten any less stupid at this point.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who really hates the rock trolls. 58.Come on... I mean, you definitely don't remember anything about Olaf because of the magic trolls at the beginning. And surely if you remember Olaf, you'd remember your sister, the ice games you played, and getting knocked unconscious, and all of this could have been avoided in the first place.
Well, Olaf never came to life when they were kids, and I think I remember Papa troll saying "don't worry, I leave the fun." All papa troll took away was the memories of the MAGIC. Some things you pay too much attention to, other things you don't pay enough attention to. 59.Also, when did Elsa's power change from being able to create snow and ice... to being able to create living conscious beings out of snow?
How else was the movie supposed to get in a hilarious and lovable chracter in? Also, Elsa from later in the movie: "I never knew what I was capable of" 60.Aw,man, but who are YOU going to leave in charge of Arendelle?
I'm sure the servents or cabinet or whatever the hell is in the castle besides Anna and Elsa probably get in charge at this point. 61.Gradus-Ex-Machina
Attempting to pass off a joke as a sin count: 10 62.Impeccable logic. I mean, those were way different circumstances-and what, is she going to EXTRA freeze the already-frozen country if she gets upset this time?
I do agree that Anna has a poor sense of judgement. Although, we saw how Elsa started literally covering giant ice crystals all over the interior of the castle and the blizzard over the fjord. 63.Snowman who has no idea how the sun's heat would melt him does have a concept of time.
Comedy logic. I never said this was an excuse BTW, it just explains the mistake. 64.So what does Elsa eat out here? Or do magical beings not need food?
I never thought of this. I, once again, was fixated on her looks. 65.Now that's just musical cheating.
I know, right?! There actually are a lot of better word choices there could have been here. 66.OK, so this isn't the "Abominable Snowman"? And you're just basically going to take the Ghostbusets' villain name? Sure, they don'e call him "Marshmallow Man" but they might as well.
Who besides you says they literally took the name? 67.It's a good thing Anna got it with the icy blast with Kristoff around, the one guy who's made friends with the magic trolls.
Well, Kristoff wasn't technically in the room when Anna got blasted. He was there after it happened. Hey, coincidences don't mean sins. 68.And... you're not putting 2 and 2 together and realizing she's the exact same girl somehow.
Dumb and Dumber, amiright? On a serious note, it was ten years before and he probably didn't get a chance to look closely on the girl they were doing magic on. 69.I like Josh Gad as much as the next guy, but he clearly watched too much Ice Age before making this movie. His character is a Discount Sid if I ever saw one.
I'm sorry, but I fail to see how Sid and Olaf are similar. 70.Trolls wait just long enough to come alive for some reason so Anna can think Kristoff is crazy.
They waited a while before coming alive to the King and Queen when they visited the first time. 71.We came here to heal the girl who got struck by an ice blast, but sure, let's so a quick number first. God, this ENTIRE movie only happens because NO ONE says the obvious shit they should say at the right time.
Needlessly stupid characters mixed in with obnoxious trolls who didn't let Kristoff or Anna say what they need to anyway. 72.OK, so these trolls are "love experts." When did "saving people from icy blasts to the head" enter the picture?
They appear to be decent in general magic if you didn't notice. They aren't JUST "love experts" or "things who save people from fatal ice blasts" 73.Oh my god!
Hey, at least it isn't a true love's kiss, neither does it have to happen at midnight. 74.Use your ice powers to make a wall of ice, and keep these guys from doing anything! Is it that hard all of the sudden?
That would cause a long boring scene of them breaking the ice and giving you something to bitch even more about. 75.No way they ran up those stairs that fast, even in the cartoon world. They should have slipped and slid all the way up, too.
While I do admit they did make it up those stairs unbelievably fast, I bet you'd be bitching about Elsa sitting there for 30 seconds while these idiots struggle up icy stairs. 76.This dude just sits here and watches, not firing, while the queen slowly imprisons his buddy!
It would have been pretty cool to see Elsa simultaneously taking on these two sonofabitches as well. 77.Unnecessary orders.
I'm sure realistically a lot of guys with the kind of personality Kristoff has would say the same. 78.Hans is suddenly evil because, well, we needed another 15 minutes out of this script, and also we had two decent guys for her to fal in love with, and this way she doesn't have to make a choice.
Once again, the movie does a shitty job covering up a plothole. 79.Also, wouldn't it be logical for the ice-loving Kristoff to fall in love with the Ice Queen? Two perfect guys, two perfect girls, and the sniveling Weselton guy could have been the villain trying to overthrow Arendelle. Instead, this movie is so focused on trying to pull the rug out from the audience and be surprising it loses common sense.
I... actually would have been almost completely fine with this, minus Kristoff being with Elsa. I'm sorry, it's just my opinion. 80.<sigh>
Cliche villain boasting. All we need next was the maniacal laugh. 81.More of those amazing doors to a common room that can lock people in from the outside...lucky Anna came to this room so Hans could begin his evil plan.
Judging from the handle I see, it looks like it could lock either way. I could be just be doing a shitty job paying attention to detail. 82.Frozen turned the "flat metal object that can open doors and start cars" into a carrot... because carrots open locked doors now.
Yeah, it's funny to see him open the door with the carrot and it's cartoon logic once again, but I do also think there could have been a better way to bring Olaf into this scene. 83.Also, how the fuck did he know Anna was in here?
That's... a decent question. 84.Also, maybe she should be dead by now? Elsa's ice tends to move quickly, and her heart's been frozen for days now.
That's an exaggeration. It's been likely 8-12 hours at the most. 85.Guy who wants to kill the queen just stares at her when she drops to her knees and turns her back.
Gotta work at one stage at a time, intense moment! Gotta work one character's emotions in at a time so the kids can take it all in easily and not need to think it over! 86.Major sword delay from Hans here. That's supposed to happen in older men.
Yes, I can safely admit it looks kind of dumb, as if he's in slow motion but SUDDENLY Anna isn't. Some things they spent more time animating in this movie than other things (Snowflakes, hair) 87."Act of true love" magic takes a long-ass time to start working after the actual act of true love.
Disney magic tends to delay for an annoying amount of time. Gotta stretch out the sad moment for time. 88.If Maureen Johnson is suggesting to Veronica Mars what I think she is...then that beats my fan fiction and rough sketches.
Attempting to pass off a joke as a sin count: 11 89.Elsa, do you think maybe you could wait until we're not standing out in the middle of a frozen lake to start thawing the whole city?
No. Love and Disney Magic only work in the moment. 90.Also, Elsa masters her newfound love magic INSTANTLY. Shit, she still doesn't know how to use her ice powers properly without killing people!
An act of true love can thaw a frozen heart. It's the answer to life, the universe, everything, and controlling your ice powers. 91.I'm calling bullshit on this "they were on a boat the whole time" nonsense here, because they are CLEARLY on a boat back before the thawing started.
I'm going to go on a whim and say there's a boat close by that is off screen. 92.We never really got an answer on how her ice magic managed to create a sentient being But fuck it, I guess. We've got ice-skating to do.
I like that idea, because I never see an answer either. 93.These assholes had no idea Hans had turned evil. That all happened down at the ice lake, in the middle of the blizzard they couldn't see through... but hey, the princess just punched a dude, so, yuk it up everyone.
Don't tell me the punch wasn't satisfactory, because it damn well was. 94.I'm pretty sure you can't leave your boat frozen in the middle of the lake all winter and then have it work just fine.
Well, considering the winter was like 3 days tops 95.We're not sure how to end this thing. Eh, just slowly pull back and swell up the music.
Hey, I'm happy with it. It's personal opinion I guess. 96.Also, and Island kingdom, a long-unseen princess locked away, horse/reindeer playfulness, wild-scoundrel love interest... I swear to god this movie and Tangled started out as the same script.
Those were practically the only similarities.
Sentence: DEATH BY POISON (sandwiches)
... I'll take this as a compliment because why the fuck not.
Now... how badly of an idiot did I make myself look?
If you actually reduced CinemaSins down to the points they make that are actually valid, relevant, or actually about a significant thing that was wrong with the movie, the videos would be a tiny fraction of their actual length. It's fun to pick out silly goofs on occasion, but it's complete nonsense to weigh them with equal importance as things like major plot/character development flaws or terribly-acted sequences.
That's about all that's worth saying about them, if you ask me.
TNTtimelord wrote:So, once again, I found a pretty great frozen video (Ok the first one was fucking stupid, let's all just forget about it)
Although, I had much to reply about this video and it all wouldn't fit in a comment considering there's 96 things I had to reply to. So I kinda wasted my day writing up a response!
1.Cliche of opening narration replaced by its sinister cousin, opening singing.
Meh, I see what you're getting at. There's isn't much wrong here considering it sounds good and I think people these days are smart enough to collect what will be going on eventually 2.What? We already did the Disney logo with the fucking castle. Jesus, now we're doing multiple logo PER STUDIO in front of the film?
I love how he acts as if this is the first time Disney is doing this. It's not like they did it in 2008 with Princess and the Frog and in 2010 with Tangled. 3.Cute baby animal qualification? Fullfilled.
Because cute baby animals should DEFINITELY be qualified as a mistake. Kids love it, and I'm sure many adults do to. 4.Also, the director said, "I want you to have that baby raindeer eat a carrot, so he'll look like even more of an asshole."
Didn't know there was something wrong with an animal eating something to add onto the cute aspect. 5.Ice is stronger than a hundred men... unless you have a pick-axe
Your logic fails to meet up with mine. I can't find anything wrong here, nor can I find anything right. (Both your sin and the movie's) 6.Is ANYONE chaperoning this child?
I can see what you're getting at, LOL. However, lots of things fail to meet real life logic in animated movies, especially this one. 7.This large triangle is a "Fuck you" to sleep.
Anna wouldn't be awake and bugging Elsa if it weren't for this window, and the accident which caused the entire plot in this movie to thicken. 8.Animation? Princess? Magic? Disney movie is a go, people, Disney movie is a go for launch!
I fail to see how this is "Cinema Sin" as it's a Disney Princess tradition. 9.Movie rips off the "all the answers are in some old mysterious book" thing from Buffy the Vampie Slayer.
Accuses that this is a ripoff from a series. It's not like it's been done a million times before in movies. 10.This map looks really unhelpful.
Hence why he ignored it and it fell to the ground. 11.We interrupt this animated princess movie to bring you Galaxy Quest.
Haha, funny. What's not so funny is you're trying to pass off a joke as a sin. 12.You mean...you have the power to remove fun too?
Nitpicking at bad choice for words, eh? By fun, Papa Troll means memories of having fun with snow with Elsa. Are you normally this dense? 13.Yeah because you don't have and never will have the power to tell your sister, "no" when she asks you to do magic.
She was a kid at this part in the movie. What 7 year old kid wouldn't want to amuse their little sibling with a magic power they don't have? 14.I know a guy who teaches a summer class if you want to enroll.
Attempting to pass off a joke as a sin count: 2 15.Wait...I know this room is huge, but they still had to share a bedroom in this huge castle?
Rather clever catch of detail. Does it make sense they shared a bedroom? No. Does it matter at fucking all? No. 16.So does Anna really not see Elsa for years? The family never gets together and eats dinner or anything?
Hm, I'm not really sure how this would work out either. o.o 17.Also, why even bother erasing Anna's memory if Elsa is just going to stay behind a locked door the whole time?
Blame the stupid last minute changes for this. I believe it's because the parents wanted to take extra cautions and Elsa's fear got to all of them, except for ignorant little Anna. 18.This stunt is actually more dangerous than any of the ice games Anna and Elsa were playing before.
Heh, doesn't make much sense to me how in Medieval Arendelle there's bicycles. The Lopez' made some pretty great song choices in this movie, but they made some pretty shitty ones as well that the animation studio had to work around 19.Girl with super powers, dead parent cliche? This IS a superhero movie.
Attempting to pass off a joke as a sin count: 3 20.Look, if she's freezing up the entire room, including the DOOR she's leaning against, the her sister would definitely feel the cold, and probably be leaning against an ice block and not a door.
Good point, but that's a DOOR COVERED IN FROST on one side, NOT AN ENTIRE ICE BLOCK. Science, bro. 21.Eh... if I were in a relationship with this cartoon I'd probably still hit it if she let me.
Attempting to pass off a joke as a sin count: 4
Although, I'd probably too. 22.Also, this whole kingdom went for over a decade without seeing the princesses after the King and Queen died? They just... took the word of some random castle butler that the princesses were alive and well and shit?
I don't think you noticed the big words right after the "Do you wanna build a snowman" song that said "THREE MONTHS LATER" 23.You could not possibly grow up in this fucking behemoth castle without knowing you had 8,000 salad plates.
Shitty Lopez writing, man. I'm glad I'm not the only one who found that line dumb. 24.You and AC/DC should have a discussion about wordplay.
Attempting to pass off a joke as a sin count: 5 25.Um, Neo is a Warner Brothers character, so I'm not sure how you think that would happen, but princesses gotta dream, I guess. Or wait... did you mean Jet Li?
Attempting to pass off a joke as a sin count: 6 26.Haha, you women and your chocolate.
It's a cliche that the animators decided to take a nab at. I don't see how this counts as a sin. 27.It seems like these gloves do a good job keeping the ice from happening... so why did Elsa need to lock herself in a room for all these years?
I could go into lots of reasons about this, but I'll just direct you to her frost-covered room instead! 28.This girl's motivation changed from hanging out with her sister to finding true love in the blink of an eye!
I'm sure if you were locked in a castle for 10 years and got out for one day, you'd start dreaming up some cheesy shit as well. 29.This is a princess, right? Heir to the f*cking throne?! Not one person guarding her or keeping an eye on her? This kingdom is run by fucking idiots.
I don't, know she went out the gates pretty damn fast. I would assume there'd be guards all over the place looking for her, but this is cartoon logic, and this movie tends to defy that as well. 30.Since we find out Hans is a bad guy later, this little moment of him smiling like he's a good guy while no one is around is a bit of a cheat in the narrative.
FINALLY, an ACTUAL sin that people should care about! Give this man a cookie! 31.Yes, everyone knows the rules about how coronations aren't valid if the queen-to-be is wearing gloves when grabbing the scepter.
Which is why the pastor alerted her of that. I don't know how this counts as a sin. 32.This ice makes serious progress on these royal items and no one in the entire hall notices it.
Meh, I don't understand how no one sees it either. It's that peeve I have with cartoon movies where it looks like the progress on something is a LOT further than the movie makes it seem. 33.Is this the first time they've seen or spoken to each other in like, a decade?
Possibly. Probably. That's what the movie creators intended, I think. 34.Haha, you women and...
I don't see how this... 35.Is there any reason you can't tell your sister about your powers now that you're both adults? When the trolls recommended you keep it from her... she was, like, 6!
It's cinema-created drama that's kinda needed in a movie with a bad or rushed plot. This is just another plothole they lazily filled in. 36."Falling in love in one evening montage" cliche
Did I hate it when I first saw it? Of course! c: 37.The guard obviously sees suspicious activity but decides, "Eh, fuck it"
Maybe because he saw the princess screwing around and didn't bother? 38.How the fuck would they have been able to climb a room this steep?!
Cartoon logic. 39.We are nearly 30 full minutes into this 90 minute movie, and while the kingdom and the princesses are pretty well established, there is no real sign of conflict. And I honestly can't tell who the main character is... Elsa or Anna.
My best guess is that it's about the buildup before Elsa's big fuckup. I'd also ask you: which of the two sisters have we seen more of so far? 40.Dammit all, is this movie doing the whole "simple misunderstanding that real people would never have because they ask questions and have normal human conversations about it" thing?!! She would rather Encino Man her sister than just tell her the truth?
It appears so, because Anna is an incredibly stupid and obnoxious character. She would find a way to freeze herself again, and she did. 41.With a kingdom that plays things this loosey-goosey, you'd think some other kingdom would have long ago taken over this place. It's not like anyone's actually in charge of anything here.
I actually agree with you here once again. 42.So... is she empowered now? Or is... she the villain now?
Lots of people probably had this question. I honestly didn't care as I'm too focused on her looks. 43."Horse abandones the hero for no other reason than the plot" cliche.
I could probably realistically see a horse running away in panic if a big clump of ice fell on it. My question is how the fuck did the horse conveniently make it back to Arendelle unhurt, considering there's WOLVES. 44.Nope. Sorry. Hypothermia. This chick is dead.
It's called cartoon violence. They'll do anything to the cartoon character for comedy without killing them. (See: Tom and Jerry) 45.Wait... if the whole land is covered in icy cold winter that can't go away because, you know, it's so cold that the sun can't melt the ice then... how is there a running stream for Anna to fall into?
I'm not sure. I've seen streams running up in the Rocky Mountains before in the dead of winter. I'd say cartoon and comedy logic, but I don't know. 46.Also, if there is a chance to get EVEN MORE hypothermia, this is it.
Cartoon violence and comedy logic. 47.Snowshoes are known for their excellent comic timing.
Would you rather look at a screen where nothing is moving for 7 seconds? 48.Also, this is a terrible way to store bread.
I'm struggling to see how anyone would notice OR care. I do see your point though. 49.Did the writers just sneak in a "size doesn't matter" joke into this kids' movie?
Not really. You just have a dirty mind. 50.Well, good things these wolves have evolved to have eyes that can glow on cue or else humans wouldn't have a chance.
Do you not know how some animal eyes work? Their eyes will appear to glow when even a little bit of light is shining on them in that level of darkness. 51.Was setting it on fire necessary? Wouldn't the sheer force of being hit by the bundle be enough?
Better be safe than sorry. Then again, throwing a fiery sleeping bag and just barely missing Kristoff kinda makes that statement obsolete here. 52.This is like a family version of The Grey-too bad Liam Neeson isn't here to threaten to beat someone to death over a fucking billfold.
Attempting to pass off a joke as a sin count: 7 53.I'm sorry... even when you're a cartoon, you should be dead... gripping a snowy cliff with gloves? At the very least, do like Wile E Coyote and crash into the bottom of the canyon with a satisfying "poof."
"There's 20 feet of fresh snow down there, it should be like landing on a pillow."
Attempting to pass off a joke as a sin count: 8 54.I like this shot, but... where the fuck are they going right now?
To North Mountain of course... and get completely lost on the way...? 55.Roll credits!
A better thing to say would have been "Aaahhh, he said it!"
Attempting to pass off a joke as a sin count: 9 56.Anna is a dick to snowmen she's just met.
Would you rather have a dull character that just stares at him blankly? 57.Well, shit, I can't be upset about a talking snowman, even if I wanted to be... not after this movie started out with magical rock trolls. But I can always just award another sinn here for the magical rock trolls, because it's not like that's gotten any less stupid at this point.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who really hates the rock trolls. 58.Come on... I mean, you definitely don't remember anything about Olaf because of the magic trolls at the beginning. And surely if you remember Olaf, you'd remember your sister, the ice games you played, and getting knocked unconscious, and all of this could have been avoided in the first place.
Well, Olaf never came to life when they were kids, and I think I remember Papa troll saying "don't worry, I leave the fun." All papa troll took away was the memories of the MAGIC. Some things you pay too much attention to, other things you don't pay enough attention to. 59.Also, when did Elsa's power change from being able to create snow and ice... to being able to create living conscious beings out of snow?
How else was the movie supposed to get in a hilarious and lovable chracter in? Also, Elsa from later in the movie: "I never knew what I was capable of" 60.Aw,man, but who are YOU going to leave in charge of Arendelle?
I'm sure the servents or cabinet or whatever the hell is in the castle besides Anna and Elsa probably get in charge at this point. 61.Gradus-Ex-Machina
Attempting to pass off a joke as a sin count: 10 62.Impeccable logic. I mean, those were way different circumstances-and what, is she going to EXTRA freeze the already-frozen country if she gets upset this time?
I do agree that Anna has a poor sense of judgement. Although, we saw how Elsa started literally covering giant ice crystals all over the interior of the castle and the blizzard over the fjord. 63.Snowman who has no idea how the sun's heat would melt him does have a concept of time.
Comedy logic. I never said this was an excuse BTW, it just explains the mistake. 64.So what does Elsa eat out here? Or do magical beings not need food?
I never thought of this. I, once again, was fixated on her looks. 65.Now that's just musical cheating.
I know, right?! There actually are a lot of better word choices there could have been here. 66.OK, so this isn't the "Abominable Snowman"? And you're just basically going to take the Ghostbusets' villain name? Sure, they don'e call him "Marshmallow Man" but they might as well.
Who besides you says they literally took the name? 67.It's a good thing Anna got it with the icy blast with Kristoff around, the one guy who's made friends with the magic trolls.
Well, Kristoff wasn't technically in the room when Anna got blasted. He was there after it happened. Hey, coincidences don't mean sins. 68.And... you're not putting 2 and 2 together and realizing she's the exact same girl somehow.
Dumb and Dumber, amiright? On a serious note, it was ten years before and he probably didn't get a chance to look closely on the girl they were doing magic on. 69.I like Josh Gad as much as the next guy, but he clearly watched too much Ice Age before making this movie. His character is a Discount Sid if I ever saw one.
I'm sorry, but I fail to see how Sid and Olaf are similar. 70.Trolls wait just long enough to come alive for some reason so Anna can think Kristoff is crazy.
They waited a while before coming alive to the King and Queen when they visited the first time. 71.We came here to heal the girl who got struck by an ice blast, but sure, let's so a quick number first. God, this ENTIRE movie only happens because NO ONE says the obvious shit they should say at the right time.
Needlessly stupid characters mixed in with obnoxious trolls who didn't let Kristoff or Anna say what they need to anyway. 72.OK, so these trolls are "love experts." When did "saving people from icy blasts to the head" enter the picture?
They appear to be decent in general magic if you didn't notice. They aren't JUST "love experts" or "things who save people from fatal ice blasts" 73.Oh my god!
Hey, at least it isn't a true love's kiss, neither does it have to happen at midnight. 74.Use your ice powers to make a wall of ice, and keep these guys from doing anything! Is it that hard all of the sudden?
That would cause a long boring scene of them breaking the ice and giving you something to bitch even more about. 75.No way they ran up those stairs that fast, even in the cartoon world. They should have slipped and slid all the way up, too.
While I do admit they did make it up those stairs unbelievably fast, I bet you'd be bitching about Elsa sitting there for 30 seconds while these idiots struggle up icy stairs. 76.This dude just sits here and watches, not firing, while the queen slowly imprisons his buddy!
It would have been pretty cool to see Elsa simultaneously taking on these two sonofabitches as well. 77.Unnecessary orders.
I'm sure realistically a lot of guys with the kind of personality Kristoff has would say the same. 78.Hans is suddenly evil because, well, we needed another 15 minutes out of this script, and also we had two decent guys for her to fal in love with, and this way she doesn't have to make a choice.
Once again, the movie does a shitty job covering up a plothole. 79.Also, wouldn't it be logical for the ice-loving Kristoff to fall in love with the Ice Queen? Two perfect guys, two perfect girls, and the sniveling Weselton guy could have been the villain trying to overthrow Arendelle. Instead, this movie is so focused on trying to pull the rug out from the audience and be surprising it loses common sense.
I... actually would have been almost completely fine with this, minus Kristoff being with Elsa. I'm sorry, it's just my opinion. 80.<sigh>
Cliche villain boasting. All we need next was the maniacal laugh. 81.More of those amazing doors to a common room that can lock people in from the outside...lucky Anna came to this room so Hans could begin his evil plan.
Judging from the handle I see, it looks like it could lock either way. I could be just be doing a shitty job paying attention to detail. 82.Frozen turned the "flat metal object that can open doors and start cars" into a carrot... because carrots open locked doors now.
Yeah, it's funny to see him open the door with the carrot and it's cartoon logic once again, but I do also think there could have been a better way to bring Olaf into this scene. 83.Also, how the fuck did he know Anna was in here?
That's... a decent question. 84.Also, maybe she should be dead by now? Elsa's ice tends to move quickly, and her heart's been frozen for days now.
That's an exaggeration. It's been likely 8-12 hours at the most. 85.Guy who wants to kill the queen just stares at her when she drops to her knees and turns her back.
Gotta work at one stage at a time, intense moment! Gotta work one character's emotions in at a time so the kids can take it all in easily and not need to think it over! 86.Major sword delay from Hans here. That's supposed to happen in older men.
Yes, I can safely admit it looks kind of dumb, as if he's in slow motion but SUDDENLY Anna isn't. Some things they spent more time animating in this movie than other things (Snowflakes, hair) 87."Act of true love" magic takes a long-ass time to start working after the actual act of true love.
Disney magic tends to delay for an annoying amount of time. Gotta stretch out the sad moment for time. 88.If Maureen Johnson is suggesting to Veronica Mars what I think she is...then that beats my fan fiction and rough sketches.
Attempting to pass off a joke as a sin count: 11 89.Elsa, do you think maybe you could wait until we're not standing out in the middle of a frozen lake to start thawing the whole city?
No. Love and Disney Magic only work in the moment. 90.Also, Elsa masters her newfound love magic INSTANTLY. Shit, she still doesn't know how to use her ice powers properly without killing people!
An act of true love can thaw a frozen heart. It's the answer to life, the universe, everything, and controlling your ice powers. 91.I'm calling bullshit on this "they were on a boat the whole time" nonsense here, because they are CLEARLY on a boat back before the thawing started.
I'm going to go on a whim and say there's a boat close by that is off screen. 92.We never really got an answer on how her ice magic managed to create a sentient being But fuck it, I guess. We've got ice-skating to do.
I like that idea, because I never see an answer either. 93.These assholes had no idea Hans had turned evil. That all happened down at the ice lake, in the middle of the blizzard they couldn't see through... but hey, the princess just punched a dude, so, yuk it up everyone.
Don't tell me the punch wasn't satisfactory, because it damn well was. 94.I'm pretty sure you can't leave your boat frozen in the middle of the lake all winter and then have it work just fine.
Well, considering the winter was like 3 days tops 95.We're not sure how to end this thing. Eh, just slowly pull back and swell up the music.
Hey, I'm happy with it. It's personal opinion I guess. 96.Also, and Island kingdom, a long-unseen princess locked away, horse/reindeer playfulness, wild-scoundrel love interest... I swear to god this movie and Tangled started out as the same script.
Those were practically the only similarities.
Sentence: DEATH BY POISON (sandwiches)
... I'll take this as a compliment because why the fuck not.
Now... how badly of an idiot did I make myself look?
Umm.. no offense Timelord, but you realize this is satire? He wasn't serious about most of those sins(I know because I'm a CS Sub). He stretches things a bit and throws jokes in there as sins, he does stuff like that quite often(E.G. Most of the DC superhero movies start out with " DC Comics" *Ding*). He's only trying to be funny.
That article is so full of false points. I get that the writer prefers Tangled and I respect his opinion but I just can't wrap my head around the fact that someone would think Tangled was better in every aspect.
A NEW FROZEN SHORT FILM CONFIRMED: Frozen Fever. The songwriters from Frozen, Robert and Kristen Anderson-Lopez, wrote a song for it. The directors are the same as Frozen, too. And this will be out as early as Spring 2015. It'll be about Anna's birthday and how Elsa and Kristoff are giving her a celebration. This is amazing, I was hoping for a full-featured film sequel but this is the next best thing, especially when it's gonna be this soon!
Valtteri wrote:A NEW FROZEN SHORT FILM CONFIRMED. The songwriters from Frozen, Robert and Kristen Anderson-Lopez, wrote a song for it. The directors are the same as Frozen, too. And this will be out as early as Spring 2015. It'll be about Anna's birthday and how Elsa and Kristoff are giving her a celebration. This is amazing, I was hoping for a full-featured film sequel but this is the next best thing, especially when it's gonna be this soon!
Niiiiiiiiiiiice (emphasis on ice or something, horrible pun alert)! New Frozen content is awesome, especially if we have the same writers/directors. Very exciting.
Umm.. no offense Timelord, but you realize this is satire? He wasn't serious about most of those sins(I know because I'm a CS Sub). He stretches things a bit and throws jokes in there as sins, he does stuff like that quite often(E.G. Most of the DC superhero movies start out with " DC Comics" *Ding*). He's only trying to be funny.
